(09-30-2014 02:10 AM)MUther Wrote:  

(09-30-2014 12:35 AM)FriscoDawg Wrote:  

(09-29-2014 11:00 AM)HerdZoned Wrote:  The only thing that will happen if LA Tech makes the CUSA championship is Tony Petersen will get to watch his former QB eat the Bulldog defense up, or what ever you call a defense. LA Tech is ranked 96th in the NCAA defensively allowing 33 points per game and in Tech's 3 losses you are allowing 41.

Better look behind the numbers a bit first...

Statistically, Louisiana Tech's defense has a better per-game yardage differential compared to what its opponents gain when not playing Tech than Marshall's defense has.

Louisiana Tech
Has allowed 382.0 yards per game in 5 games
Its five opponents are gaining 404.9 yards per game overall.
Its five opponents are gaining 412.5 yards per game when not playing Tech...Tech defense differential +30.5 yards per game.

Marshall
Has allowed 328.3 yards per game in 5 games
Its four opponents are gaining 346.0 yards per game overall.
Its four opponents are gaining 351.1 yards per game when not playing Marshall...Marshall defense differential +22.8 yards per game.

Which of the games that LaTech played were they so far ahead in the first half that by the end of the 3rd quarter the lowest string players were in the game? All of the yards compiled against us came in the second half. Most of those in the 4th quarter against the scrubs. First halves we've outscored opponents in total 106-3. They don't get any yards till we decide it doesn't matter anymore. I don't see us being in many games where we have to leave the starters in. Defensive numbers will be hugely skewed. But feel free to use your statistics to help you sleep at night.

If we win the east and you win the west, you will be playing in Huntington with a minimum of three losses and one very bad one. You have no idea...

2nd and 3rd stringers were in the entire 4th quarters of both ULL and North Texas, and four TDs were scored in those quarters. I haven't looked at the yardage, but it had to be at least between 200-300. Even with that, of Tech's five opponents only ULL gained more than its current season average total offense against Tech.

Way too early for any team to be thinking about December 6 at this point. Strange things tend to happen when chickens are counted prematurely.

Who will have the stronger in-conference schedule: Marshall or LaTech?

After all the talk about weak schedules practically guaranteeing an undefeated season I wonder if Marshall doesn't actually have the stronger C-USA schedule. I'm more interested in MT going 8-0 and appearing in the CCG than OOC performance, to be honest.

(09-29-2014 01:29 AM)goherd24herdfans Wrote:  UTSA argued how they played top competition and would tear through the conference

Can you tell me who from UTSA argued that we'd "tear through the conference"? If anything, Marshall fans have been the ones talking about going undefeated.

(09-30-2014 06:49 AM)Volkmar Wrote:  

(09-29-2014 01:29 AM)goherd24herdfans Wrote:  UTSA argued how they played top competition and would tear through the conference

Can you tell me who from UTSA argued that we'd "tear through the conference"? If anything, Marshall fans have been the ones talking about going undefeated.

No, they haven't. Everyone else has talked about Marshall going undefeated because of a weak schedule. Most Marshall fans have been clear that an undefeated season is hard to accomplish. I will admit, I never saw UTSA fans claim undefeated either.

(09-28-2014 09:34 AM)Cscollis Wrote:  ... La Tech is the same sucky team as last year....

I will trust that you have more insight than the rest of us, so I can't argue with your point.

This is VERY familiar chest-thumping and bravado spewing from SOME Tech fans...

And furthermore...if some people would just lower their neurosis for just a second...This thread is about the overall stronger DIVISION, not team. According to Massey (yes, I'm aware that there are others), the East has the top three teams and four of the top six.

So, ON PAPER, AS THINGS STAND NOW, I would say that the East is a bit stronger, but things can sure change in a hurry.

(09-30-2014 07:01 AM)CurveItAround Wrote:  

(09-28-2014 09:34 AM)Cscollis Wrote:  ... La Tech is the same sucky team as last year....

I will trust that you have more insight than the rest of us, so I can't argue with your point.

We just have to hope most of the other teams left are even more sucky

(09-30-2014 06:49 AM)Volkmar Wrote:  

(09-29-2014 01:29 AM)goherd24herdfans Wrote:  UTSA argued how they played top competition and would tear through the conference

Can you tell me who from UTSA argued that we'd "tear through the conference"? If anything, Marshall fans have been the ones talking about going undefeated.

i have no idear who said what but please see my bottom quote in re message board smack. i stole it from a uk....i mean georgia state fan.

(09-30-2014 09:01 AM)winston70 Wrote:  

(09-30-2014 07:01 AM)CurveItAround Wrote:  

(09-28-2014 09:34 AM)Cscollis Wrote:  ... La Tech is the same sucky team as last year....

I will trust that you have more insight than the rest of us, so I can't argue with your point.

We just have to hope most of the other teams left are even more sucky

I am trying to bring my own expectations down. After last year and NSU this year who the hell knows which team will show up. I know we have some real good talent on O and D but we can suck much easier than playing great. Right now I count 2 complete games in the last 16. We do look better this year than last year based on the eye test but I don't think we know how to win yet.

It will be much easier to believe we will go 4-3 in conference and finish 6-6 than to believe we will play every game lights out and finish 7-0 in conference. We have the talent to go 7-0 but I am not sold on the coaching.

(09-30-2014 06:49 AM)Volkmar Wrote:  

(09-29-2014 01:29 AM)goherd24herdfans Wrote:  UTSA argued how they played top competition and would tear through the conference

Can you tell me who from UTSA argued that we'd "tear through the conference"? If anything, Marshall fans have been the ones talking about going undefeated.

It was an example. And it was on rowdytalk. Not these forums. When discussing the offense and their struggles, utsa fans mentioned the schedule and how no one in cusa could hang. To be honest, i thought it was true too, not because of the opponents, but because of how your defense played. Then it fell apart for some reason and without that dominate defensive play, utsa wont win the west.

(09-30-2014 12:35 AM)FriscoDawg Wrote:  

(09-29-2014 11:00 AM)HerdZoned Wrote:  The only thing that will happen if LA Tech makes the CUSA championship is Tony Petersen will get to watch his former QB eat the Bulldog defense up, or what ever you call a defense. LA Tech is ranked 96th in the NCAA defensively allowing 33 points per game and in Tech's 3 losses you are allowing 41.

Better look behind the numbers a bit first...

Statistically, Louisiana Tech's defense has a better per-game yardage differential compared to what its opponents gain when not playing Tech than Marshall's defense has.

Louisiana Tech
Has allowed 382.0 yards per game in 5 games
Its five opponents are gaining 404.9 yards per game overall.
Its five opponents are gaining 412.5 yards per game when not playing Tech...Tech defense differential +30.5 yards per game.

Marshall
Has allowed 328.3 yards per game in 5 games
Its four opponents are gaining 346.0 yards per game overall.
Its four opponents are gaining 351.1 yards per game when not playing Marshall...Marshall defense differential +22.8 yards per game.

Everyone of Marshall's games have been over at the half. And our 2nd 3rd and walk ons have played the whole 4th quarter.

Marshall HT Scores and Finals:

Marshall 28
Little Miami 3

Marshall 42-27 Final

Rhode Island 0
Marshall 17

Marshall 48-7 Final (1st half played in a monsoon)

Ohio 0
Marshall 27

Marshall 44-14 Final

Marshall 31
Akron 3

Marshall 48-17 Final

Marshall's 1st team defense has allowed a total of 3 points since the 1st game against Little Miami. The 1st team defense is allowing 7.5 points per game and our defense over all is allowing 16.3 points per game. Marshall's offense has outscored their opponents 103-6 in the 1st half. What does that mean, that's right our defensive stats are skewed because of total domination of the 1st half.

(09-29-2014 08:22 PM)winston70 Wrote:  

(09-29-2014 03:53 PM)olliebaba Wrote:  

(09-29-2014 01:42 PM)BuzDawg73 Wrote:  The conference season is getting into full swing this week. Let's play the games. Right now, my money is on Tech to win the conference. (and yes, I know we lost to an FCS team)

It's good that you're so confident but unfortunately you're going to be disappointed saturday. It's too early to crown yourselves heroes of cusa.

I have been impressed with UTEP so far this season but history is not on your side playing us. Tech gets the W this weekend and the FCS loss at home is additional motivation.

What does history have to do with a football game? When Dallas defeated the forty-niners one of their players said, "we weren't supposed to lose this game." He was referring to playoff history where they usually won.

But, that's okay, you rely on history and we'll rely on our team being better than last year. Which brings me to this, last time we played you squeaked by with a three point win so it's not like y'all are world beaters.

Nobody has said we are world beaters, or anything close to that. I believe we will win on Saturday, and I believe we will continue to win. Is that sinful thinking? If we don't I will be disappointed, but, trust me, I have been there before.
I am usually optimistic about athletic contests. I can't help myself. This is why I avoid casinos. I ALWAYS think the next ball is going to fall on my number, and usually run through my money in a hurry.

Okay, so I exaggerated with the "world beaters" word. I believe like you do, that MY team will win. I guess we both agree on the same thing.

(09-30-2014 02:04 PM)olliebaba Wrote:  Okay, so I exaggerated with the "world beaters" word. I believe like you do, that MY team will win. I guess we both agree on the same thing.

I just hope Kugler doesn't bury a pickaxe in our south endzone like Mike Price did the last time UTEP came to Ruston.

Wait, UAB is moving to the West Division? I thought CUSA was switching the divisions to North and South.

North
Old Dominion
UNCC
Marshall
WKU
MTSU
UAB
USM

South
FIU
FAU
La Tech
Rice
UTSA
UTEP
UNT

(09-30-2014 01:44 PM)olliebaba Wrote:  

(09-29-2014 08:22 PM)winston70 Wrote:  

(09-29-2014 03:53 PM)olliebaba Wrote:  

(09-29-2014 01:42 PM)BuzDawg73 Wrote:  The conference season is getting into full swing this week. Let's play the games. Right now, my money is on Tech to win the conference. (and yes, I know we lost to an FCS team)

It's good that you're so confident but unfortunately you're going to be disappointed saturday. It's too early to crown yourselves heroes of cusa.

I have been impressed with UTEP so far this season but history is not on your side playing us. Tech gets the W this weekend and the FCS loss at home is additional motivation.

What does history have to do with a football game? When Dallas defeated the forty-niners one of their players said, "we weren't supposed to lose this game." He was referring to playoff history where they usually won.

But, that's okay, you rely on history and we'll rely on our team being better than last year. Which brings me to this, last time we played you squeaked by with a three point win so it's not like y'all are world beaters.

I think that our team is better this year too

Don't remember saying we were world beaters? Do you actually read posts that you reply to?

(10-02-2014 09:11 PM)dragonzden Wrote:  Wait, UAB is moving to the West Division? I thought CUSA was switching the divisions to North and South.

North
Old Dominion
UNCC
Marshall
WKU
MTSU
UAB
USM

South
FIU
FAU
La Tech
Rice
UTSA
UTEP
UNT

That would be pretty horrible for everyone. Two Florida schools in with UTEP. The eastern schools who recruit Florida rarely get to play there.

(09-29-2014 01:24 PM)Shrack Wrote:  Yards allowed vs FBS and average Massey ranking of offense they've faced:

UNT: 328.3 (99)
UAB: 361.7 (128)
Marshall: 379.3 (196)
FIU: 379.3 (68)
UTSA: 387.0 (49)
La Tech: 400.8 (54)

Be sure an update this list THIS week Shrack.