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Is it better for the AAC to have this rotating banner carrier or one firm power?
We did the UCF thing last year, now it appears it'll be UC or ECU to carry it this year, and who knows, maybe Houston or Memphis next year.

Is it good for the conference? Or would it be better for a couple schools to win it every year.
09-26-2014 03:29 PM
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RE: Is it better for the AAC to have this rotating banner carrier or one firm power?
The AAC needs 2-3 teams perrenially at the top of the conference. A random 4th team rising to the top no and again is also good. But showing that the top 2-3 consistently stay good is all the conference needs IMO.
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RE: Is it better for the AAC to have this rotating banner carrier or one firm power?
(09-26-2014 03:51 PM)apex_pirate Wrote:  The AAC needs 2-3 teams perrenially at the top of the conference. A random 4th team rising to the top no and again is also good. But showing that the top 2-3 consistently stay good is all the conference needs IMO.

That's how the old MW used to be and it worked very well for them. TCU, Utah, and BYU were typically near the top.
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RE: Is it better for the AAC to have this rotating banner carrier or one firm power?
(09-26-2014 03:29 PM)NBPirate Wrote:  We did the UCF thing last year, now it appears it'll be UC or ECU to carry it this year, and who knows, maybe Houston or Memphis next year.

Is it good for the conference? Or would it be better for a couple schools to win it every year.

We need multiple football powers climbing the rankings to create media interest.
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RE: Is it better for the AAC to have this rotating banner carrier or one firm power?
I think for the first few years, having a few teams establish itself is a very good thing. Having a few teams rotate helps people identify with the league. People know Cincy, people learned about UCF and people are learning about ECU, keep that going and people will look at the league as not that bad. IMO

Now if this league stays together you need 3-4 teams to be at the top every year.
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RE: Is it better for the AAC to have this rotating banner carrier or one firm power?
I agree. 2 or 3 teams that hover in and around the top25 or beat a P5 team or 2 non-conference every year and finishes with at least 8 wins. If it is just one team it would be like the ACC - Florida state and the 9 dwarfs they used to call it. But 2 or 3 strong teams make it look like a strong conference
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We need a reliable name...
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RE: Is it better for the AAC to have this rotating banner carrier or one firm power?
Look at CUSA 2.0 basketball or ACC football. Having only one dominate team is not the way to go.
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RE: Is it better for the AAC to have this rotating banner carrier or one firm power?
(09-26-2014 03:29 PM)NBPirate Wrote:  We did the UCF thing last year, now it appears it'll be UC or ECU to carry it this year, and who knows, maybe Houston or Memphis next year.

Is it good for the conference? Or would it be better for a couple schools to win it every year.

If Memphis beats ole miss and then cincy, it will be Memphis this year.
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RE: Is it better for the AAC to have this rotating banner carrier or one firm power?
(09-26-2014 03:29 PM)NBPirate Wrote:  We did the UCF thing last year, now it appears it'll be UC or ECU to carry it this year, and who knows, maybe Houston or Memphis next year.

Is it good for the conference? Or would it be better for a couple schools to win it every year.

Every year is going to play out differently b/c of graduation, coaching changes etc...

However, ideally the good teams will remain "good" and remain relevant in the conference race and hopefully along the way find a way to become/stay ranked. This would lift the entire conference and make for more 'Must-See-TV' conference games.

BTW, its way too early to for UCF, UC or anybody else to concede anything to ECU as we have barely started conference play. For example, my team has historically killed it during OOC play with big wins and rankings, ect.... but not so much in conference play :(, however there was a time in the old BigEast that we had four teams ranked at the same time before everyone started beating each other. It was very good for the conference SOS to have USF, UL,WVU and RU ranked at the same time with UC and UCONN receiving votes. Those were good times...and can easily happen in the AAC.
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RE: Is it better for the AAC to have this rotating banner carrier or one firm power?
simple answer we need atleast 2 consistent powers in the conference...

things to note about fbs college football
-conferences are defined by the top first not the depth
-perception/reputation is 50% of college football success, financial and on the field (deals, recruiting etc)
- reputation and perception are things that builds on itself (ie you finish 12-0 2 years in a row on the same schedule.. you arent finish ranked #8 both years, you'll be ranked #8 the first #3 the next year)
- name brands are huge in tv negotiation and luring bowls

aka the regular consistent power in the big 12 texas is down..so the big 12 is down, ignoring that baylor has risen as a top 10 team because they arent a consistent power beyond 3 years ago
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RE: Is it better for the AAC to have this rotating banner carrier or one firm power?
(09-26-2014 05:57 PM)pesik Wrote:  simple answer we need atleast 2 consistent powers in the conference...

things to note about fbs college football
-conferences are defined by the top first not the depth
-perception/reputation is 50% of college football success, financial and on the field (deals, recruiting etc)
- reputation and perception are things that builds on itself (ie you finish 12-0 2 years in a row on the same schedule.. you arent finish ranked #8 both years, you'll be ranked #8 the first #3 the next year)
- name brands are huge in tv negotiation and luring bowls

aka the regular consistent power in the big 12 texas is down..so the big 12 is down, ignoring that baylor has risen as a top 10 team because they arent a consistent power beyond 3 years ago

Conference need to have some perception of depth...key word is perception...else it's tougher for your top team that ultimately wins the conference to get respect. It's much healthier for the AAC to have a yearly 4-5 team dog fight. It not only validates our program's strength but makes for a much better brand of football for our fans to watch.
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RE: Is it better for the AAC to have this rotating banner carrier or one firm power?
(09-26-2014 06:07 PM)CyberBull Wrote:  
(09-26-2014 05:57 PM)pesik Wrote:  simple answer we need atleast 2 consistent powers in the conference...

things to note about fbs college football
-conferences are defined by the top first not the depth
-perception/reputation is 50% of college football success, financial and on the field (deals, recruiting etc)
- reputation and perception are things that builds on itself (ie you finish 12-0 2 years in a row on the same schedule.. you arent finish ranked #8 both years, you'll be ranked #8 the first #3 the next year)
- name brands are huge in tv negotiation and luring bowls

aka the regular consistent power in the big 12 texas is down..so the big 12 is down, ignoring that baylor has risen as a top 10 team because they arent a consistent power beyond 3 years ago

Conference need to have some perception of depth...key word is perception...else it's tougher for your top team that ultimately wins the conference to get respect. It's much healthier for the AAC to have a yearly 4-5 team dog fight. It not only validates our program's strength but makes for a much better brand of football for our fans to watch.

we honestly only "need" 2 powers, depth at our level will get no respect, thats the honest truth..what ever respect we get is decided in ooc vs p5 team

i gave this example before houston #6 loses to #24 USM.. c-usa suffers.. houston drops 19 spots in ranking despite still being 13-1, usm only moves up 2 spots..AAC dog fights are perception elimination games not booster for the winners in perception.

if we have 2 regular top 25 teams and a 3rd rotational team that reaches top 25 aswell that would be amazing for the league
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Is it better for the AAC to have this rotating banner carrier or one firm power?
I have never seen teams crowned or eliminated so early in the season. Last I checked UCF has 0 conference losses just like ECU and UC (and Everyone other than uconn and Tulane) for that matter.

To answer the question though I think it's most important that the league champion looks good ooc, which UCF did last year and UC has a chance to do tomorrow. ECU has done well so far kind of depends what happens with tv and UNC from here. Good thing is ECU is already ranked and teams rarely if ever do anything but climb in the polls if they keep winning


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RE: Is it better for the AAC to have this rotating banner carrier or one firm power?
(09-26-2014 08:24 PM)TheEastisPurple Wrote:  I have never seen teams crowned or eliminated so early in the season. Last I checked UCF has 0 conference losses just like ECU and UC (and Everyone other than uconn and Tulane) for that matter.

To answer the question though I think it's most important that the league champion looks good ooc, which UCF did last year and UC has a chance to do tomorrow. ECU has done well so far kind of depends what happens with tv and UNC from here. Good thing is ECU is already ranked and teams rarely if ever do anything but climb in the polls if they keep winning


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Exactly. It's a long hard season with many games left to be played. There are some good football teams in this league that we have to get past or conversely, have to get past us. And we're known to have the WTF game tossed in there... We've gotta enjoy the moment and keep hoping we don't stumble.
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