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RE: Kennedy Assassination
Oswald was a deranged individual. He has a fascinating and extremely unique lifestory. He is exactly the kind of person that would get mixed up as the fall man in an assassination plot.
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RE: Kennedy Assassination
He's also exactly the kind of person who'd wake up one morning and decide to shoot the president.

I think the appeal of the conspiracy theory is that it frightens people that some random nut can kill a president. There's an odd comfort in believing it was all part of some sinister plot.

Hell, if it were just a random nut, then none of us is safe.
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(10-01-2014 08:48 PM)Smaug Wrote:  He's also exactly the kind of person who'd wake up one morning and decide to shoot the president.

I think the appeal of the conspiracy theory is that it frightens people that some random nut can kill a president. There's an odd comfort in believing it was all part of some sinister plot.

Hell, if it were just a random nut, then none of us is safe.

Well said.

Without getting into the weeds of official membership in political parties or organizations, suffice to say that Oswald was pro-Soviet, pro-Marxist, pro-Communist, and decided to kill the leader of the world's leading anti-Soviet, anti-Marxist, anti-Communist nation and military power.

Little known anymore, but Oswald had earlier in 1963 taken a shot (with the same Carcano rifle, IIRC) at a leading rightwing figure of that era named Edwin Walker, who lived in Dallas. Oswald also told his wife he wanted to shoot Richard Nixon, who was in Dallas for a Pepsi-Co shareholders meeting on November 21 and actually left Dallas on a commercial flight to New York at almost the exact moment that Kennedy arrived in Dallas. Oswald's wife had to persuade him not to shoot Nixon. As far as we know, he never confided to Marina, his intent to shoot Kennedy.
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RE: Kennedy Assassination
Yep.

Hell, John Hinkley wasn't political at all. He originally set out to kill Carter, but couldn't get near him.
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(09-29-2014 01:29 PM)South Carolina Duke Wrote:  There's no way that Oswald had the skill set to make the shots.

I once put two rounds through the bulls-eye at 100 yards....... with a Colt 911 in .45 that was manufactured in 1936. The other five shots missed the entire target (almost need to say obviously missed the entire target)

Personal anectdotes aside, stranger things can happen.

Oswald was a trained marksman firing a capable rifle from a safe and prone position on a target moving in a generally straight direction. Somewhere in the military statistics database there is a number or a percentage showing how many military members can hit that target and I would bet the number or percentage of people hitting that moving target would be surprisingly high.
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A bolt action rifle almost equivalent to a .308 round. Naaaah!

Not to mention no one has ever duplicated the shots with the very same weapon.


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10-02-2014 12:59 PM
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RE: Kennedy Assassination
Whatever happened to that nut that said the guy driving Kennedy's limo did it?
10-02-2014 01:05 PM
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RE: Kennedy Assassination
(10-02-2014 12:59 PM)South Carolina Duke Wrote:  A bolt action rifle almost equivalent to a .308 round. Naaaah!

Not to mention no one has ever duplicates the shots with the very same weapon.


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He once qualified as a sharpshooter in the Marines (later qualification as marksman) so he did have the skill set. While he was shooting at a moving target, the target was not moving very fast and was going almost directly away from him, a much easier shot than one moving across in front of him. And don't forget, he was shooting from a bench rest made of boxes of books, so he had a very stable platform. Also, the shots have been duplicated with the same type of weapon (saw it done one time on a special on the History Channel several years ago).
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(10-02-2014 12:59 PM)South Carolina Duke Wrote:  Not to mention no one has ever duplicated the shots with the very same weapon.

The same shots and timing were easily duplicated.

Quote:Some critics of the Warren Commission had claimed it was impossible to fire a Carcano rifle in less than 2.3 seconds. Both the CBS and HSCA tests proved conclusively that the claim was not accurate.[67]

http://www.aarclibrary.org/publib/jfk/hs..._0057a.htm

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_F._Ken...tion_rifle
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(10-01-2014 08:48 PM)Smaug Wrote:  I think the appeal of the conspiracy theory is that it frightens people that some random nut can kill a president. There's an odd comfort in believing it was all part of some sinister plot.

This is a lot of truth in this statement.

Many people who believe in conspiracies are frightened by the randomness of horrific acts and balance that with the arrogance of believing they know more than experts. "I'm not stupid enough to believe your version of events..." This arrogance/belief provides the conspiracy theorist a level of control over the randomness of horrific acts.

I think that for a lot of people, it's easier to believe that our government is the enemy - full of evil doers and nefarious plots for the sole purpose of financial gain or neo-con land grabs or healthcare snatches - than to countenance a largely nameless, faceless enemy who willingly martyr themselves to kill others, with no other reason than quasi-religious fervor and multi-directional rage.
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