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Question for UCF fans (I'm sure everyone will chime in)
Last year I "hated" seeing your success but knew it was best for the AAC and the leagues future. Let the tallest midget always be from our league... Hopefully this years success for ECU will carry on through the year and end with us representing the league at a big boy New Years Day bowl, fingers crossed. So my question is about your recruiting.

ECU fans (and players) firmly believe this will not be a one year wonder as we have depth across the board, but who really knows. Are you getting better recruits the year after your success or were you seeing it during your run last year? I would assume our current success would attract high ranked recruits but I have heard some say you won't see it until the year after or longer.

USF and UConn had success a few years ago but I'm thinking coaching changes have hurt them more than anything else. Ruff ain't leaving us.
09-25-2014 07:57 AM
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Our recruiting on paper hasn't changed at all. We rarely have a bunch of all-Americans. If recruiting ranking were perfect ecu would have lost to VA Tech and UNC. Put it that way.
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09-25-2014 08:02 AM
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(09-25-2014 07:57 AM)isidnirb Wrote:  Last year I "hated" seeing your success but knew it was best for the AAC and the leagues future. Let the tallest midget always be from our league... Hopefully this years success for ECU will carry on through the year and end with us representing the league at a big boy New Years Day bowl, fingers crossed. So my question is about your recruiting.

ECU fans (and players) firmly believe this will not be a one year wonder as we have depth across the board, but who really knows. Are you getting better recruits the year after your success or were you seeing it during your run last year? I would assume our current success would attract high ranked recruits but I have heard some say you won't see it until the year after or longer.

USF and UConn had success a few years ago but I'm thinking coaching changes have hurt them more than anything else. Ruff ain't leaving us.

UCF has had more 4-5 stars check out UCF this Spring/Summer...some put UCF in their Top 3-5...but losing the auto-BCS Bid...AAC not being a "BCS" Conf has hurt a bit on the recruiting trail in trying to get some to go from interest to commitment.

After losing 15 scholarships over the last 3 years because of NCAA Sanctions...UCF will have approx 25 to use in Feb (UCF has 11 verbals now)...as in most years, the highest rated recruits verbal to UCF late....and I hope this is true again this year.
09-25-2014 08:14 AM
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In all honesty, not really. There is still a ways to go in the recruiting season, and UCF's best recruits commit later as NSD approaches. I think it has and will open some eyes to recruits who may not have looked at us before, but it's kind of hard to tell. But so far, our early commits seem pretty much on the same level as in previous years, although IIRC, we have a lot more early commits than in previous years (for whatever that's worth). I think there are a few reasons for this:

1) I think biggest thing is that other schools are telling recruits that, yeah, we had a great year, but now we are back in the "minor leagues," and that we will never have any shot at the CFP, and may not even have a shot at the NYD bowls in a few short years.

2) While even one BCS bowl win can give recruiting a bump, I think it takes some level of consistency for it to really start to make a real difference. But even then, it's still going to be tough. Look at Boise St. They were so good for so long, and at least on paper, their recruiting never really skyrocketed to Pig5 levels.

3) O'Leary has always been very particular about the type of players he recruits. If there is a 4-star player with serious grade or character issues, he won't recruit him, no matter how good they are. That philosophy has definitely saved a lot of grief with grade and behavior problems. But there's no doubt it has also cost us some talented players, too. It can be a double-edged sword, for sure.
09-25-2014 08:34 AM
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(09-25-2014 08:34 AM)Knightshift Wrote:  In all honesty, not really. There is still a ways to go in the recruiting season, and UCF's best recruits commit later as NSD approaches. I think it has and will open some eyes to recruits who may not have looked at us before, but it's kind of hard to tell. But so far, our early commits seem pretty much on the same level as in previous years, although IIRC, we have a lot more early commits than in previous years (for whatever that's worth). I think there are a few reasons for this:

1) I think biggest thing is that other schools are telling recruits that, yeah, we had a great year, but now we are back in the "minor leagues," and that we will never have any shot at the CFP, and may not even have a shot at the NYD bowls in a few short years.

2) While even one BCS bowl win can give recruiting a bump, I think it takes some level of consistency for it to really start to make a real difference. But even then, it's still going to be tough. Look at Boise St. They were so good for so long, and at least on paper, their recruiting never really skyrocketed to Pig5 levels.

3) O'Leary has always been very particular about the type of players he recruits. If there is a 4-star player with serious grade or character issues, he won't recruit him, no matter how good they are. That philosophy has definitely saved a lot of grief with grade and behavior problems. But there's no doubt it has also cost us some talented players, too. It can be a double-edged sword, for sure.

We are the same with #3. And I respect that. Look what selling your soul has done to Miami and UNC. I like having a coach admired and respected by his peers and fans for doing the right thing. Even if that means losing out on the uber talented recruit (who thinks/knows he is that good)...
09-25-2014 08:42 AM
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RE: Question for UCF fans (I'm sure everyone will chime in)
(09-25-2014 08:34 AM)Knightshift Wrote:  3) O'Leary has always been very particular about the type of players he recruits. If there is a 4-star player with serious grade or character issues, he won't recruit him, no matter how good they are. That philosophy has definitely saved a lot of grief with grade and behavior problems. But there's no doubt it has also cost us some talented players, too. It can be a double-edged sword, for sure.

Prior to NCAA Probation, GOL still might gamble on a player in a recruiting class (Jose Jose was one)...but with the loss of 15 scholarships in the last 3 classes, he couldn't afford to miss on a player who had little chance of qualifying and/or had serious off-the-field issues.

Now that UCF is back to full scholarship, you might see one reach on a questionable situation (very good player with issues), but you will never see GOL do that with 5-8 players in one class like some other schools do and have done.
09-25-2014 08:52 AM
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