opened at rice -13.5

now at rice -9.5/10

john q. (smart money) got roasted last week laying heavy bank on appy and vegas got roasted by the 'middle'

another huge middle op awaits if this moves to -7/6.5

(09-22-2014 09:49 AM)07owl Wrote:  

(09-22-2014 09:16 AM)GCEagle Wrote:  If we have any running game at all, I like out chances

Running game isn't what you need to beat Rice. You need a quarterback who can hit wide open receivers 30+ yards downfield. That's pretty much it

This. Plus an offensive line to protect that quarterback until he finds the open receiver.

(09-23-2014 05:48 PM)ESE84 Wrote:  

(09-22-2014 09:49 AM)07owl Wrote:  

(09-22-2014 09:16 AM)GCEagle Wrote:  If we have any running game at all, I like out chances

Running game isn't what you need to beat Rice. You need a quarterback who can hit wide open receivers 30+ yards downfield. That's pretty much it

This. Plus an offensive line to protect that quarterback until he finds the open receiver.

Oh crap!

(09-23-2014 05:48 PM)ESE84 Wrote:  

(09-22-2014 09:49 AM)07owl Wrote:  

(09-22-2014 09:16 AM)GCEagle Wrote:  If we have any running game at all, I like out chances

Running game isn't what you need to beat Rice. You need a quarterback who can hit wide open receivers 30+ yards downfield. That's pretty much it

This. Plus an offensive line to protect that quarterback until he finds the open receiver.

I think just about everyone has enough of a line and enough of a quarterback to throw downfield effectively against Rice. IMHO, you need the receivers that can catch the ball downfield, and that seems to be a tougher get than either of the other two at the college level.

If Rice can stop USM for about 5-6 series without scoring, I think Rice will win. IMHO, the more telling thing about the ODU game is 11 possessions, six touchdowns and the game ending field goal. Hitting deep receivers was important for ODU, but scoring on 7/11 possessions is what undid Rice (notice 8 of those possessions started after a kickoff). Rice will end about 2-3 drives on its own, even if the opposing defense played fainting goat defense. They may be stopped a couple of times by good defense. The game hinges on ending the other team's possessions without yielding points, and deep passes to receivers that can't catch over their shoulder on the run is one way to stop drives.

Quote:Old Dominion vs Rice (Sep 20, 2014 at Houston, Texas)
Drive Started Drive Ended Consumed
Team Qtr Spot Time Obtained Spot Time How Lost Pl-Yds TOP RZ
ODU 1st O25 15:00 Kickoff R00 12:27 * TOUCHDOWN 7-75 2:33 #
ODU 1st O25 10:11 Kickoff R00 07:10 * TOUCHDOWN 8-75 3:01
ODU 1st O49 05:02 Punt R45 04:15 Punt 3-6 0:47
ODU 2nd O25 14:20 Kickoff O21 13:19 Punt 3--4 1:01
ODU 2nd O06 09:52 Punt R00 06:50 * TOUCHDOWN 7-94 3:02
ODU 2nd O29 01:49 Missed FG R00 00:22 * TOUCHDOWN 7-71 1:27
ODU 2nd O35 00:22 Kickoff O35 00:00 End of half 1-0 0:22
ODU 3rd R47 13:21 Punt R00 11:02 * TOUCHDOWN 7-47 2:19 #
ODU 3rd O25 08:41 Kickoff O19 07:08 Punt 3--6 1:33
ODU 3rd O25 00:59 Kickoff R00 12:20 * TOUCHDOWN 10-75 3:39 #
ODU 4th O25 07:47 Kickoff O40 06:30 Punt 4-15 1:17
ODU 4th O25 01:05 Kickoff R08 00:00 * FIELD GOAL 6-67 1:05 #

I'm optimistic.

I think the guys got some confidence after the App State game.. I'm hoping they come out and fight tooth and nail Saturday for the home crowd and get another W.

(09-24-2014 03:18 PM)gdunn Wrote:  I'm optimistic.

I think the guys got some confidence after the App State game.. I'm hoping they come out and fight tooth and nail Saturday for the home crowd and get another W.

Actually, I am Optimistic. You are Dunn.

I expect both teams will play hard and the better team will win.

We can't stop the run. We've given up over 190 yards on the ground every game this season and pretty sure last season as well. We don't have linebackers and don't tackle well.

Rice runs the ball really well.

That will be the biggest challenge.

(09-25-2014 08:31 AM)OptimisticOwl Wrote:  

(09-24-2014 03:18 PM)gdunn Wrote:  I'm optimistic.

I think the guys got some confidence after the App State game.. I'm hoping they come out and fight tooth and nail Saturday for the home crowd and get another W.

Actually, I am Optimistic. You are Dunn.

I expect both teams will play hard and the better team will win.

You Rice boys always have to be soooo smart don't you..

Good luck USM. Rice seems to have **** the bed this season so i would take pleasure in you sending them to 0-4

I've seen all 4 USM games this year along with bits and pieces of Rice's 3 games and in my opinion I see Rice winning this one 35-24

(09-25-2014 10:52 AM)goherd24herdfans Wrote:  Good luck USM. Rice seems to have **** the bed this season so i would take pleasure in you sending them to 0-4

Yeah okay

My question I have for the Rice fans.. I know when USM went 0pher in 2012, we were looking for ways to lose.. Is that the case or is Rice just losing close games to good teams?

(09-26-2014 09:54 AM)gdunn Wrote:  My question I have for the Rice fans.. I know when USM went 0pher in 2012, we were looking for ways to lose.. Is that the case or is Rice just losing close games to good teams?

We lost to 2 top 10 teams and we were overmatched. We moved the ball pretty well on both (outgained A&M). It's a bit of an overreaction to take too much away from either of those games...not a team in c-usa would have won either of those.

As for our other loss vs. ODU, they're a good team offensively and they were a bad matchup for us. As mentioned, our weakness is our pass defense and they have a good qb. We were also missing our best pass rusher and some other important players (our qb missed some time during the game as well). We lost by a last second field goal, but it wasn't a game where I would say we were looking for a way to lose...they just beat us.

Nevertheless, I'm pretty happy with what I see from our offense and we won't go 0fer.

(09-26-2014 10:02 AM)07owl Wrote:  

(09-26-2014 09:54 AM)gdunn Wrote:  My question I have for the Rice fans.. I know when USM went 0pher in 2012, we were looking for ways to lose.. Is that the case or is Rice just losing close games to good teams?

We lost to 2 top 10 teams and we were overmatched. We moved the ball pretty well on both (outgained A&M). It's a bit of an overreaction to take too much away from either of those games...not a team in c-usa would have won either of those.

As for our other loss vs. ODU, they're a good team offensively and they were a bad matchup for us. As mentioned, our weakness is our pass defense and they have a good qb. We were also missing our best pass rusher and some other important players (our qb missed some time during the game as well). We lost by a last second field goal, but it wasn't a game where I would say we were looking for a way to lose...they just beat us.

Nevertheless, I'm pretty happy with what I see from our offense and we won't go 0fer.

That's not what I wanted to hear

At least your honest. Hopefully tomorrow night will be a good game and nobody gets hurt.

(09-26-2014 10:06 AM)gdunn Wrote:  

(09-26-2014 10:02 AM)07owl Wrote:  

(09-26-2014 09:54 AM)gdunn Wrote:  My question I have for the Rice fans.. I know when USM went 0pher in 2012, we were looking for ways to lose.. Is that the case or is Rice just losing close games to good teams?

We lost to 2 top 10 teams and we were overmatched. We moved the ball pretty well on both (outgained A&M). It's a bit of an overreaction to take too much away from either of those games...not a team in c-usa would have won either of those.

As for our other loss vs. ODU, they're a good team offensively and they were a bad matchup for us. As mentioned, our weakness is our pass defense and they have a good qb. We were also missing our best pass rusher and some other important players (our qb missed some time during the game as well). We lost by a last second field goal, but it wasn't a game where I would say we were looking for a way to lose...they just beat us.

Nevertheless, I'm pretty happy with what I see from our offense and we won't go 0fer.

That's not what I wanted to hear

At least your honest. Hopefully tomorrow night will be a good game and nobody gets hurt.

Yeah, we really can't afford any of that.
ODU has a terrific QB. Nothing but praise for TH.

(09-26-2014 10:02 AM)07owl Wrote:  

(09-26-2014 09:54 AM)gdunn Wrote:  My question I have for the Rice fans.. I know when USM went 0pher in 2012, we were looking for ways to lose.. Is that the case or is Rice just losing close games to good teams?

We lost to 2 top 10 teams and we were overmatched. We moved the ball pretty well on both (outgained A&M). It's a bit of an overreaction to take too much away from either of those games...not a team in c-usa would have won either of those.

As for our other loss vs. ODU, they're a good team offensively and they were a bad matchup for us. As mentioned, our weakness is our pass defense and they have a good qb. We were also missing our best pass rusher and some other important players (our qb missed some time during the game as well). We lost by a last second field goal, but it wasn't a game where I would say we were looking for a way to lose...they just beat us.

Nevertheless, I'm pretty happy with what I see from our offense and we won't go 0fer.

Good summary. I think Rice will come to Hattiesburg with something to prove.

(09-26-2014 10:45 AM)Pan95 Wrote:  

(09-26-2014 10:06 AM)gdunn Wrote:  

(09-26-2014 10:02 AM)07owl Wrote:  

(09-26-2014 09:54 AM)gdunn Wrote:  My question I have for the Rice fans.. I know when USM went 0pher in 2012, we were looking for ways to lose.. Is that the case or is Rice just losing close games to good teams?

We lost to 2 top 10 teams and we were overmatched. We moved the ball pretty well on both (outgained A&M). It's a bit of an overreaction to take too much away from either of those games...not a team in c-usa would have won either of those.

As for our other loss vs. ODU, they're a good team offensively and they were a bad matchup for us. As mentioned, our weakness is our pass defense and they have a good qb. We were also missing our best pass rusher and some other important players (our qb missed some time during the game as well). We lost by a last second field goal, but it wasn't a game where I would say we were looking for a way to lose...they just beat us.

Nevertheless, I'm pretty happy with what I see from our offense and we won't go 0fer.

That's not what I wanted to hear

At least your honest. Hopefully tomorrow night will be a good game and nobody gets hurt.

Yeah, we really can't afford any of that.
ODU has a terrific QB. Nothing but praise for TH.

Neither team can.. I just want a good game.. Since I will be able to watch it from the comforts of my home again.. I'll have a chicken smoking and a cold beer.

(09-26-2014 10:02 AM)07owl Wrote:  

(09-26-2014 09:54 AM)gdunn Wrote:  My question I have for the Rice fans.. I know when USM went 0pher in 2012, we were looking for ways to lose.. Is that the case or is Rice just losing close games to good teams?

We lost to 2 top 10 teams and we were overmatched. We moved the ball pretty well on both (outgained A&M). It's a bit of an overreaction to take too much away from either of those games...not a team in c-usa would have won either of those.

As for our other loss vs. ODU, they're a good team offensively and they were a bad matchup for us. As mentioned, our weakness is our pass defense and they have a good qb. We were also missing our best pass rusher and some other important players (our qb missed some time during the game as well). We lost by a last second field goal, but it wasn't a game where I would say we were looking for a way to lose...they just beat us.

Nevertheless, I'm pretty happy with what I see from our offense and we won't go 0fer.

I'm going to add to that excellent breakdown by pointing out that Rice has turned it over only one time in three games.

If anybody here remembers the 2007 Rice USM game, then that's exhibit A on how an overmatched team can get the best of a 'better' team. But Rice has protected the ball well (and moved it well) on offense all season.

It's CUSA so remember, first team to 40 points wins! (unless you're WKU, sorry guys)

Good luck USM. Get another win here.

You're getting back on track!

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