(09-22-2014 11:30 AM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  

(09-22-2014 11:27 AM)john01992 Wrote:  

(09-22-2014 11:11 AM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  

(09-22-2014 11:10 AM)john01992 Wrote:  

(09-22-2014 10:40 AM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  My generation living with their parents has more to do with debt and a lack of jobs than laziness. In fact, like I've said before, I know some folks who have good paying jobs and careers but live at home to save money.

My generation's biggest failing is that we all actually believe we are special. We are the generation that will have a lower standard of living than our parents and that isn't our fault.

There is resentment of the boomer generation and it is rightfully earned. The boomer generation was the one of prosperity, fresh starts, sexual liberation, etc and ours is unemployment, debt, broken families, and decline.

i always thought you were like 60

This is like the third time we've had this conversation.

I'm still in my 20s.

so you are like 28-29???

Yup, late 20s.

i'm gonna say 29

(09-22-2014 11:48 AM)EverRespect Wrote:  

(09-22-2014 11:37 AM)fsquid Wrote:  

(09-22-2014 10:11 AM)EverRespect Wrote:  

(09-22-2014 10:06 AM)fsquid Wrote:  yawn. Every generation think the next one is lazy while thinking the one previous to it created all the problems.

The lazy generation is evident. See # 5, 31.1 percent of American young adults in the 18 to 34-year-old age bracket are currently living with their parents. That is just incredible.

There are a few that I've worked with that got a job for around 40k coming out of college, decided to move back home and put about 50% of their check into retirement accounts and savings accounts. Few year later, moved out on their own with a good bit saved up.

Yeah, I see a lot of that too and that is not a decision that either shows or fosters maturity. Unfortunately they would rather sacrifice their self-actualization and dignity for some comfort and luxury. A couple of months to up a security deposit and get on one's feet is one thing. A few years is pathetic. A product of pornography to be honest. Can you imagine not having your own place at 22 years old, particularly when you actually have a job?

I'm curious as to your theory on this.

(09-22-2014 11:48 AM)EverRespect Wrote:  

(09-22-2014 11:37 AM)fsquid Wrote:  

(09-22-2014 10:11 AM)EverRespect Wrote:  

(09-22-2014 10:06 AM)fsquid Wrote:  yawn. Every generation think the next one is lazy while thinking the one previous to it created all the problems.

The lazy generation is evident. See # 5, 31.1 percent of American young adults in the 18 to 34-year-old age bracket are currently living with their parents. That is just incredible.

There are a few that I've worked with that got a job for around 40k coming out of college, decided to move back home and put about 50% of their check into retirement accounts and savings accounts. Few year later, moved out on their own with a good bit saved up.

Yeah, I see a lot of that too and that is not a decision that either shows or fosters maturity. Unfortunately they would rather sacrifice their self-actualization and dignity for some comfort and luxury. A couple of months to up a security deposit and get on one's feet is one thing. A few years is pathetic. A product of pornography to be honest. Can you imagine not having your own place at 22 years old, particularly when you actually have a job?

seems like a smart money decision to me.

(09-22-2014 12:20 PM)All Dukes_All Day Wrote:  

(09-22-2014 11:48 AM)EverRespect Wrote:  

(09-22-2014 11:37 AM)fsquid Wrote:  

(09-22-2014 10:11 AM)EverRespect Wrote:  

(09-22-2014 10:06 AM)fsquid Wrote:  yawn. Every generation think the next one is lazy while thinking the one previous to it created all the problems.

The lazy generation is evident. See # 5, 31.1 percent of American young adults in the 18 to 34-year-old age bracket are currently living with their parents. That is just incredible.

There are a few that I've worked with that got a job for around 40k coming out of college, decided to move back home and put about 50% of their check into retirement accounts and savings accounts. Few year later, moved out on their own with a good bit saved up.

Yeah, I see a lot of that too and that is not a decision that either shows or fosters maturity. Unfortunately they would rather sacrifice their self-actualization and dignity for some comfort and luxury. A couple of months to up a security deposit and get on one's feet is one thing. A few years is pathetic. A product of pornography to be honest. Can you imagine not having your own place at 22 years old, particularly when you actually have a job?

I'm curious as to your theory on this.

Lack of drive toward intimacy.

(09-22-2014 12:26 PM)EverRespect Wrote:  

(09-22-2014 12:20 PM)All Dukes_All Day Wrote:  

(09-22-2014 11:48 AM)EverRespect Wrote:  

(09-22-2014 11:37 AM)fsquid Wrote:  

(09-22-2014 10:11 AM)EverRespect Wrote:  The lazy generation is evident. See # 5, 31.1 percent of American young adults in the 18 to 34-year-old age bracket are currently living with their parents. That is just incredible.

There are a few that I've worked with that got a job for around 40k coming out of college, decided to move back home and put about 50% of their check into retirement accounts and savings accounts. Few year later, moved out on their own with a good bit saved up.

Yeah, I see a lot of that too and that is not a decision that either shows or fosters maturity. Unfortunately they would rather sacrifice their self-actualization and dignity for some comfort and luxury. A couple of months to up a security deposit and get on one's feet is one thing. A few years is pathetic. A product of pornography to be honest. Can you imagine not having your own place at 22 years old, particularly when you actually have a job?

I'm curious as to your theory on this.

Lack of drive toward intimacy.

Jesus christ it's like the ramblings of a mad-man.

(09-22-2014 12:47 PM)UCF08 Wrote:  

(09-22-2014 12:26 PM)EverRespect Wrote:  

(09-22-2014 12:20 PM)All Dukes_All Day Wrote:  

(09-22-2014 11:48 AM)EverRespect Wrote:  

(09-22-2014 11:37 AM)fsquid Wrote:  There are a few that I've worked with that got a job for around 40k coming out of college, decided to move back home and put about 50% of their check into retirement accounts and savings accounts. Few year later, moved out on their own with a good bit saved up.

Yeah, I see a lot of that too and that is not a decision that either shows or fosters maturity. Unfortunately they would rather sacrifice their self-actualization and dignity for some comfort and luxury. A couple of months to up a security deposit and get on one's feet is one thing. A few years is pathetic. A product of pornography to be honest. Can you imagine not having your own place at 22 years old, particularly when you actually have a job?

I'm curious as to your theory on this.

Lack of drive toward intimacy.

Jesus christ it's like the ramblings of a mad-man.

Your left wing brain limits your ability to make any inferences or conclusion. Why do you think people these days are well into their 30s before actually growing up?

I don't agree with the statement on it's face. Just because you decide to pick fairly arbitrary milestones to decide whether or not a person is 'grown up' doesn't make it so. The fact you're ignorant to just how constant the sentiment you're expressing has been throughout history is pretty humorous though.

"The children now love luxury; they have bad manners, contempt for authority; they show disrespect for elders and love chatter in place of exercise. Children are now tyrants, not the servants of their households. They no longer rise when elders enter the room. They contradict their parents, chatter before company, gobble up dainties at the table, cross their legs, and tyrannize their teachers." Aristophones 423 B.C.

As I said, I understand your handicap and it is duly noted.

Of course, why would you address up a cogent argument? It's a lot easier just not thinking about why you believe the things that you do.

(09-22-2014 01:14 PM)UCF08 Wrote:  Of course, why would you address up a cogent argument? It's a lot easier just not thinking about why you believe the things that you do.

It is a theory based on personal observation. There is no reason not to think it.

There's a reason to actually look into the evidence supporting or disproving it, at least there is to someone who gives a rats ass about actually understanding societal shifts in regards to a historical continuum.

I'd rather be the judge.

A judge would take a reasoned approach to making a decision, and would certainly go out of their way to become educated on a matter before deciding it. What you're describing is 'being a child'.

What I am describing is knowing whether to get involved, associate, or do business with someone based on the looks of them. I used to take the same approach as you and my life got much better and easier when I switched to the new method. As far as the OP, the stats confirm my observations, which prevail in absence of any other information. If it looks like a duck and quacks like a duck, it is probably a duck.

(09-22-2014 01:45 PM)EverRespect Wrote:  What I am describing is knowing whether to get involved, associate, or do business with someone based on the looks of them. I used to take the same approach as you and my life got much better and easier when I switched to the new method. As far as the OP, the stats confirm my observations, which prevail in absence of any other information. If it looks like a duck and quacks like a duck, it is probably a duck.

Listen, I get it, I used to think the same way. It's easy, doesn't require any complex thought processes, and quite frankly, it takes actual effort to overcome because our brains are simply wired to work that way. The problem is, when you're not critical of your own beliefs and views, you tend to start accepting any evidence which supports your views at face value. These 'stats' in the OP? Yeah, they're nonsense and nowhere near sourced well enough to actually take as facts, but you take them as such because it's easier.