(09-19-2014 03:01 PM)ODUgradstudent Wrote:  

(09-19-2014 02:53 PM)GrayBeard Wrote:  Who buys beer like PBR, Budweiser, Miller, Coors, etc? It's all horrible crap.

Better than paying $7 for an over hopped, oak smoked, seasonal pumpkin spiced butterscotch porter from the bishop's arsehole brewing company.

Except Miller, that's garbage.

The vast majority of microbreweries are very over rated and very over priced. People lap that crap up so I can't really blame the breweries.

I disagree completely. I think most of the established Microbrewers are nop notch.

(09-19-2014 02:53 PM)GrayBeard Wrote:  Who buys beer like PBR, Budweiser, Miller, Coors, etc? It's all horrible crap.

+1


I'm not much of a beer guy ... but the ones I do like are usually microbrew. The big name one I like is Bass. Corona is just OK.

(09-19-2014 03:01 PM)ODUgradstudent Wrote:  

(09-19-2014 02:53 PM)GrayBeard Wrote:  Who buys beer like PBR, Budweiser, Miller, Coors, etc? It's all horrible crap.

The vast majority of microbreweries are very over rated and very over priced. People lap that crap up so I can't really blame the breweries.

I'll disagree with half of your statement ODU... Do I think they're overpriced? Yep..

Overrated? Not a chance.

BUt I will admit, I'm a Sam Adams guy through and through unless I can get a Bass or Guiness.

(09-19-2014 03:09 PM)fsquid Wrote:  

(09-19-2014 03:01 PM)ODUgradstudent Wrote:  

(09-19-2014 02:53 PM)GrayBeard Wrote:  Who buys beer like PBR, Budweiser, Miller, Coors, etc? It's all horrible crap.

Better than paying $7 for an over hopped, oak smoked, seasonal pumpkin spiced butterscotch porter from the bishop's arsehole brewing company.

Except Miller, that's garbage.

The vast majority of microbreweries are very over rated and very over priced. People lap that crap up so I can't really blame the breweries.

I disagree completely. I think most of the established Microbrewers are nop notch.

Yep, a good microbrew is hard to beat.

(09-19-2014 03:21 PM)DaSaintFan Wrote:  BUt I will admit, I'm a Sam Adams guy through and through unless I can get a Bass or Guiness.

why choose?

(09-19-2014 03:21 PM)DaSaintFan Wrote:  

(09-19-2014 03:01 PM)ODUgradstudent Wrote:  

(09-19-2014 02:53 PM)GrayBeard Wrote:  Who buys beer like PBR, Budweiser, Miller, Coors, etc? It's all horrible crap.

The vast majority of microbreweries are very over rated and very over priced. People lap that crap up so I can't really blame the breweries.

I'll disagree with half of your statement ODU... Do I think they're overpriced? Yep..

Overrated? Not a chance.

BUt I will admit, I'm a Sam Adams guy through and through unless I can get a Bass or Guiness.

I like Sam Adams, it reminds me of the Spanish attitude to beer. If you go to Boston then pretty much everywhere sells Sam Adams lager and they sell it with pride. It's not the best beer, but it's not too expensive and is decent enough to get you to that happy place that we all want to get to.

In Spain at most bars you'll just find a tap of the beer of whatever region of the country you're in which is probably a lager given the climate there. It's fairly priced and is decent. I love the simplicity of that. There's nothing that I hate more about a bar than when you get a beer list that goes on to multiple pages. It's generally quantity over quality and the staff will have trouble telling you about what they have, your average server can't remember their tasting notes of 100+ beers. I'd rather a bar just choose a few really good beers. It means that they can sell them at a fair price and they can know the beers better.

At heart I'm a cider guy because that's what I drank growing up, but I did spend a lot of time as a beer snob during my undergrad years, I think I just grew up out of it. The idea of sitting around a table on a Friday night comparing the maltiness of two or three respective brews seems like a waste to me. I'd rather have cheap but quaffable beer, like Sam Adams or Brooklyn, with good conversation. As much as I like Rochefort 10, I can't knock back five of them in a night.

Ever do Woodchuck Cider, ODU? British cider that I actually liked, even though it was a bit strong in the apple flavoring.

Oh yeah, i forgot Skor lager (first German lager I ever had, and I loved it!)

Why craft beers are more expensive.

Here's How a Six-Pack of Craft Beer Becomes Expensive

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(09-19-2014 03:57 PM)DaSaintFan Wrote:  Ever do Woodchuck Cider, ODU? British cider that I actually liked, even though it was a bit strong in the apple flavoring.

Oh yeah, i forgot Skor lager (first German lager I ever had, and I loved it!)

I think Woodchuck is from Vermont, I like it but I agree with you it's very appley which sounds like a silly complaint about a cider. I think cider has a place everywhere, there's the fruity fizzy ones made with yeasts typically used in wine making for the summer and the dark, flat ones made with beer yeast or just the natural yeast in the skins.

The general type I enjoy is called scrumpy which means the apples fell from the tree before being collected so the sugars have developed. It tends to be flat and very alcoholic.

Anyway, whatever anyone's tipple, here's to a good Friday night


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(09-19-2014 04:04 PM)VA49er Wrote:  Why craft beers are more expensive.

Here's How a Six-Pack of Craft Beer Becomes Expensive

I think I saw recently that the price of hops is going through the roof, which is only going to make it worse.

I could be wrong though, I frequently am.

Yep.. i home brew on RARE occasions (I have to clean out my carbiner from my last batch) and just the hops makes the cost of the brewing ingredients go through the sky...

PS: Never do a redd's apple ale... BLECH!!! I tried it once.. NEVER NEVER AGAIN!!! (You'd think brewing a apple-flavor beer wouldn't be that difficult, but then again, it's' done by Miller... and they're BLECH!! :) )

As far as American rice beer is concerned...PBR is one of the best IMO...but.. That is not saying much.

My son in law and I just bottled a nice batch of Pumpkin spice ale. Waiting for it to carbonate. Smelled like Thanksgiving while brewing. Anyone else into "bucket beer"?

Went to Asheville a few weeks ago and had an awesome pepper ale at the Wicked Weed. Asheville is fast becoming one of best spots in the SE for crafts. New Belgium is getting ready to build a brand new plant there. I hope NB at some point decides to make the Sasion a standard instead of a seasonal.

(09-19-2014 03:08 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  Glad we have Shiner in Texas.

Shiner is good stuff. I had a mixed 6 a few weeks ago. I really was impressed with a couple of them. It is beginning to make inroads into NC.

(09-19-2014 03:08 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(09-19-2014 02:53 PM)GrayBeard Wrote:  Who buys beer like PBR, Budweiser, Miller, Coors, etc? It's all horrible crap.

who drinks beer for flavor? I drink it to get, uh, the effects...

Let me guess....Steel Reserve?

(09-19-2014 02:53 PM)GrayBeard Wrote:  Who buys beer like PBR, Budweiser, Miller, Coors, etc? It's all horrible crap.

I am a giant beer snob...but...when I am playing golf and it is 90 degrees? Coors Light goes down very well. I give almost all beers a pass in certain situations....Even Miller...ponies only.

(09-19-2014 04:04 PM)VA49er Wrote:  Why craft beers are more expensive.

Here's How a Six-Pack of Craft Beer Becomes Expensive

One of the things that this does not take into account is that crafts often brew multiple styles and seasonal selections. This adds costs due to added ingredients,specialty hops, adjuncts, labor and brewmaster knowledge. All of which add costs above what American rice beers incur. Most of the BIG guys stick to 2 or 3 major styles. Bud has entire facilities that ONLY brew BUD. There is major economy of scale involved when you do only one thing. Are crafts overpriced? Yep..some are..but...there are micros that have very high costs involved in processing and do not have the economy of scale that the big guys have.

(09-19-2014 10:37 PM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  

(09-19-2014 02:53 PM)GrayBeard Wrote:  Who buys beer like PBR, Budweiser, Miller, Coors, etc? It's all horrible crap.

I am a giant beer snob...but...when I am playing golf and it is 90 degrees? Coors Light goes down very well. I give almost all beers a pass in certain situations....Even Miller...ponies only.

I'm down for some golf.


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(09-19-2014 01:55 PM)DrTorch Wrote:  

(09-19-2014 01:47 PM)JMUDunk Wrote:  Local only I guess.

Sam Adams and Yeungling are all I can think of.

Sam Adams, Yeungling, and Shiner Bock- Someone should make a play to be the new american beer for the everyman.

Most of you are too young (me, too) to remember all the advertising Schlitz did with the NFL. When Schlitz changed their formula, Budweiser took advantage of it and became the american beer.