(09-18-2014 06:11 PM)ncbeta Wrote:  I'm thinking the B1G and B12 probably split into three with the AAC so you'll see something like (it's b/c Michigan/OSU and Texas/OU get in a big fight):

UConn, Temple, ECU, UCF, USF, PSU, UMD, Rutgers, WVU, Ohio state, Iowa state and Indiana

then

MSU, Michigan, Okie state, OU, Iowa, Tulsa, K-state, Memphis, Cincy (the new OSU), Tulane, Nebraska and Baylor

SMU, Houston, Navy, Texas, TCU, TTU, Minnesota, Kansas, Illinois, Wisconsin, Purdue and Northwestern

Did I forget anyone? I know we will be a bit sad and miss eachother (for some weird reason) as this goes down, but it's for the best.

1) I really much doubt UMich/OSU and UT/OU would be split up under your scenario.

2) Spread the Texas schools across the three divisions and then give the upper Midwest schools access to the Florida schools.

So...

Baylor, TCU, SMU, Navy, Northwestern, Iowa, Iowa State, Kansas, Kansas State, Memphis, Tulane, Illinois

TT, UT, OU, OK St, NEB, Tulsa, Purdue, Michigan State, Indiana, ECU, Temple, Cincinnati

Minn, Wis, UCF, USF, Hou, UMich, OSU, WVU, UMD, PSU, UConn, RU


How about four divisions of nine?

PSU, UConn, RU, WVU, UMD, ECU, UCF, USF, Cincinnati

OSU, UMich, Temple, Navy, Michigan St., Baylor, TCU, Indiana, Purdue

Illinois, Northwestern, Tulane, Memphis, Iowa State, Iowa, Houston, Kansas State, Kansas

Minn, Wis, NEB, UT, TT, Tulsa, OK St, OU, SMU

(09-18-2014 08:55 PM)Transic_nyc Wrote:  How about four divisions of nine?

PSU, UConn, RU, WVU, UMD, ECU, UCF, USF, Cincinnati

OSU, UMich, Temple, Navy, Michigan St., Baylor, TCU, Indiana, Purdue

Illinois, Northwestern, Tulane, Memphis, Iowa State, Iowa, Houston, Kansas State, Kansas

Minn, Wis, NEB, UT, TT, Tulsa, OK St, OU, SMU

This is the best I've seen yet.

(09-18-2014 09:02 PM)PirateNation Wrote:  

(09-18-2014 08:55 PM)Transic_nyc Wrote:  How about four divisions of nine?

PSU, UConn, RU, WVU, UMD, ECU, UCF, USF, Cincinnati

OSU, UMich, Temple, Navy, Michigan St., Baylor, TCU, Indiana, Purdue

Illinois, Northwestern, Tulane, Memphis, Iowa State, Iowa, Houston, Kansas State, Kansas

Minn, Wis, NEB, UT, TT, Tulsa, OK St, OU, SMU

This is the best I've seen yet.

A few things of note:

- This is only possible if the B12 and B10 think working together is the best way forward

(In a sense, the B10 gives up the most because of the need to access both Texas and Florida trumps academic elitism)

- We would want to keep the CIC around but open it to schools who are already AAU or formerly AAU, i.e. Texas, Kansas, Iowa State, Tulane

- Giving up our unique identities, my preference would be for more regional setups and not too many teams in the divisions. It looks like my idea addresses that part.

- I wanted to give three divisions access to Texas and Louisiana and the fourth access to Florida.

- Several ADs in the Big Ten have already mentioned expanding sometime in the future. So this is not like we're discussing a moot issue.

- With the exception of some AAC schools in the South, this setup actually benefits Olympic sports, as competitions can then be organized more regionally. No need to travel 2,000 miles with the volleyball team when you can schedule against schools nearby. For those with travel issues, the non-conference schedule should address part of the problem.

- I know this idea would be unpopular with traditionalists within the Big Ten area. Some would prefer merging with the ACC but I doubt ESPN would allow that.

- AAC has good public schools in growing areas in the Sun Belt. Moreover, they won't pose a critical challenge to the historical powers of the B10/B12.

- A collection of some of the more prestigious programs would be very attractive to media companies.

- This is no longer a conference but a league. However, this allows teams to play games when they don't have a divisional game scheduled without having to go outside. Keeps the media money within.


With all that said, such a scenario is very unlikely and would depend on such a diverse group of schools deciding to work together.

The idea they would come back is so ludicrous it isn't worth thinking about. TV ACC 17 mil per year, TV AAC 2 mil per year.

No way UConn would allow them to be in the AAC. "It's a turf thing. We want to be the New England team"

I nominate this thread for "Full Retard Thread of the Year."

Where's Wilkie? He is always interested in the Shiite.

To answer the original thread question......... no.

BC can't return, because BC WAS never in the American.


Why would a P5 team ever willing leave the P5?

(09-19-2014 07:02 AM)blunderbuss Wrote:  I nominate this thread for "Full Retard Thread of the Year."

Seriously, total waste of time. I warn others, do not read this thread.

What in the world did I just read...

(09-18-2014 06:08 PM)DfromCT Wrote:  

(09-18-2014 04:15 PM)UConnHusky Wrote:  

(09-18-2014 03:54 PM)OUGwave Wrote:  

(09-18-2014 03:52 PM)uconnwhaler Wrote:  UCF fans can't call for BC to 'return.' As a matter of fact, only UConn was truly a conference member with BC (Temple was football only at the time before being asked to leave).

Cool story.

Hey, here's a tip from a fan of a school that used to play in the SEC:

Move on. Living in the past will get you nowhere.

Cool story. However, that is easy for you to say as Tulane was last in the SEC in 1966. UConn was in a power conference a mere two years ago, so "moving on" is a little tougher. Also, unlike Tulane, UConn has the nation's best basketball programs of the last 20 years to worry about going forward. Those programs still very much exist in the PRESENT.

Well, in the PRESENT neither Tulane nor UConn are in a P5. UConn is a Johnny Come Lately to the D1 football scene, which drives everything. Ask your old friend Jim Boheim, who not too long ago said "Football drives everything."

Now if you want to talk about the past, Tulane was a founding member of the SEC, and has more SEC Football titles than 4 or 5 current teams COMBINED. Yes, it's ancient history, but so is UConn's one glorious BCS bowl season. Since Edsall left the Huskies (whom I root for after Tulane, as I have a daughter that goes to UConn) have been downright bad. Over the summer, we heard from a few Huskies fans that this year's team was going to be so much better, that the talent was there, and the coach was going to turn things around instantly. I think they'll get better, but it's going to take time. Right now they're not very good.

And there's no doubt that UConn has the best basketball program in the conference and one of the best in the country. A lot of good that did during the conference shuffle, eh? And by the way, this is all a pipedream. Unless the AAC regains P6 status, and gets a TV contract to reflect P6 status, BC isn't even considering coming back. No way, no how.

Maybe UConn should play UMass every year as an OOC game. Create a rivalry there.

Actually, UConn technically isn't "Johnny Come Lately to the D1 football scene"...they were in D1-AA before moving to D1-A. Both are still D1. However, our short time at the D1-A (FBS) level isn't the reason that UConn was left behind. UConn was left behind because Pasqualoni drove the program into the ground and because of hard feelings and jealousy about UConn on the part of our former conference mates (looking at you BC, Cuse, Miami, and Pitt).

Anyway, being in the AAC hasn't hindered our basketball. We will continue to flourish in the present and continue to make this conference a great home (along with Cincy, Memphis, SMU, Temple, Houston, and Tulsa). So, you can thumb your nose at the basketball schools, but the reality is that being in this conference is more harmful to schools/fanbases that only value their football and don't value their basketball. Basketball is the thing that the AAC will be able to hang its hat on going forward. Football? Haha. Ask CUSA fans how powerful and important AAC football is at the moment. The AAC is only battling the rest of the G5 to be the tallest midget anyway. The AAC is not ever going to be a power conference. So, maybe someday we can have the best football team in the "minor league" of FBS. I am waiting with bated breath.

(09-19-2014 10:40 AM)UConnHusky Wrote:  

(09-18-2014 06:08 PM)DfromCT Wrote:  

(09-18-2014 04:15 PM)UConnHusky Wrote:  

(09-18-2014 03:54 PM)OUGwave Wrote:  

(09-18-2014 03:52 PM)uconnwhaler Wrote:  UCF fans can't call for BC to 'return.' As a matter of fact, only UConn was truly a conference member with BC (Temple was football only at the time before being asked to leave).

Cool story.

Hey, here's a tip from a fan of a school that used to play in the SEC:

Move on. Living in the past will get you nowhere.

Cool story. However, that is easy for you to say as Tulane was last in the SEC in 1966. UConn was in a power conference a mere two years ago, so "moving on" is a little tougher. Also, unlike Tulane, UConn has the nation's best basketball programs of the last 20 years to worry about going forward. Those programs still very much exist in the PRESENT.

Well, in the PRESENT neither Tulane nor UConn are in a P5. UConn is a Johnny Come Lately to the D1 football scene, which drives everything. Ask your old friend Jim Boheim, who not too long ago said "Football drives everything."

Now if you want to talk about the past, Tulane was a founding member of the SEC, and has more SEC Football titles than 4 or 5 current teams COMBINED. Yes, it's ancient history, but so is UConn's one glorious BCS bowl season. Since Edsall left the Huskies (whom I root for after Tulane, as I have a daughter that goes to UConn) have been downright bad. Over the summer, we heard from a few Huskies fans that this year's team was going to be so much better, that the talent was there, and the coach was going to turn things around instantly. I think they'll get better, but it's going to take time. Right now they're not very good.

And there's no doubt that UConn has the best basketball program in the conference and one of the best in the country. A lot of good that did during the conference shuffle, eh? And by the way, this is all a pipedream. Unless the AAC regains P6 status, and gets a TV contract to reflect P6 status, BC isn't even considering coming back. No way, no how.

Maybe UConn should play UMass every year as an OOC game. Create a rivalry there.

Actually, UConn technically isn't "Johnny Come Lately to the D1 football scene"...they were in D1-AA before moving to D1-A. Both are still D1. However, our short time at the D1-A (FBS) level isn't the reason that UConn was left behind. UConn was left behind because Pasqualoni drove the program into the ground and because of hard feelings and jealousy about UConn on the part of our former conference mates (looking at you BC, Cuse, Miami, and Pitt).

Anyway, being in the AAC hasn't hindered our basketball. We will continue to flourish in the present and continue to make this conference a great home (along with Cincy, Memphis, SMU, Temple, Houston, and Tulsa). So, you can thumb your nose at the basketball schools, but the reality is that being in this conference is more harmful to schools/fanbases that only value their football and don't value their basketball. Basketball is the thing that the AAC will be able to hang its hat on going forward. Football? Haha. Ask CUSA fans how powerful and important AAC football is at the moment. The AAC is only battling the rest of the G5 to be the tallest midget anyway. The AAC is not ever going to be a power conference. So, maybe someday we can have the best football team in the "minor league" of FBS. I am waiting with bated breath.

The point still stands, they were late to the game and it had an impact. Looking at uconn I see a program/school that has everything to get into the ACC except politics. the reason why they don't have politics on their side is because they are a johnny come lately to the FBS and the P5 schools in the Northeast want to keep uconn as irrelevant as possible because it is to their own benefit to do so.

(09-18-2014 03:50 PM)blunderbuss Wrote:  WOW.... so Wilkie has subcontracted out his trolling now.

you forgot to add...

(09-18-2014 05:07 PM)uconnwhaler Wrote:  

(09-18-2014 03:54 PM)OUGwave Wrote:  

(09-18-2014 03:52 PM)uconnwhaler Wrote:  UCF fans can't call for BC to 'return.' As a matter of fact, only UConn was truly a conference member with BC (Temple was football only at the time before being asked to leave).

Cool story.

Hey, here's a tip from a fan of a school that used to play in the SEC:

Move on. Living in the past will get you nowhere.

Clearly. Please write down everything Tulane has done in the past 50 years so we avoid whatever drove your athletic program into the gutter.

Umm, I already gave you the most important one. Stop acting like you're owed anything based on who your football program used to be affiliated with. It doesn't help.

(09-18-2014 03:37 PM)No Bull Wrote:  Would we add Buffalo?

Wilkie wants to know.

Why would Boston College take a huge cut in revenue? Inquiring minds would like to know!

(09-19-2014 11:47 AM)Wilkie01 Wrote:  

(09-18-2014 03:37 PM)No Bull Wrote:  Would we add Buffalo?

Wilkie wants to know.

Why would Boston College take a huge cut in revenue? Inquiring minds would like to know!

Really, why in the heck would BC, or WVU for that matter, leave the gold pot for the coal pot.

(09-19-2014 11:49 AM)Tigeer Wrote:  

(09-19-2014 11:47 AM)Wilkie01 Wrote:  

(09-18-2014 03:37 PM)No Bull Wrote:  Would we add Buffalo?

Wilkie wants to know.

Why would Boston College take a huge cut in revenue? Inquiring minds would like to know!

Really, why in the heck would BC, or WVU for that matter, leave the gold pot for the coal pot.

Spot on! They wouldn't!

Can we get these ******* threads moved do we even have moderators in this place

(09-19-2014 11:52 AM)ECBrad Wrote:  Can we get these ******* threads moved do we even have moderators in this place

They should just be deleted really.