Quote:When Nick Olivas was 14, he claimed he had an alleged -- and illicit -- affair with a 20-year-old woman.

Two years ago, when the older woman filed for public assistance, Olivas, 24, learned that he was the father of her daughter. The Arizona Department of Economic Security then looked for someone responsible for the girl's financial well-being and tracked down Olivas.

According to the state, he now owes $15,000 in child support, plus money for his daughter's birth expenses and 10 percent interest. But Olivas says he shouldn't owe a cent because he claims he was the victim of statutory rape when he fathered the child.

Arizona state law puts 15 as the age of consent, but Olivas didn't press charges because he didn't realize it was an option at the time, according to the Arizona Republic.

Olivas graduated high school, went to college and became a medical assistant. About $380 a month is garnished from his wages for child support.

Making a rape victim pay child support may sound cruel and unusual, but an official for the Arizona Department of Economic Security said assuring support for the child is the main priority...

This guy shouldn't have to pay a dime. And it's BS that a woman can come out of the woodwork after keeping you in the dark about your own child, then demand you repay her for the **** you didn't pay for when she kept your child from you. F that c.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/09/05...ps=gravity

The guy was a child himself when it happened. What about his welfare from
then.

That is awful.

Put the woman in prison for rape and award the child to the man. That'll teach her to take advantage of a 15 year old.

I read this a couple of weeks ago. It's not the only case. Clearly the bureaucrats in charge are out of control.

Garnishing wages from a rapist is a great idea, but he claims he was raped. Lol, no man, and I mean NOOOO MAN should ever get to claim rape by a woman. Unless you were drugged. Otherwise, you're turned on if you're able to get it up.

(09-16-2014 02:12 PM)LSU04_08 Wrote:  Garnishing wages from a rapist is a great idea, but he claims he was raped. Lol, no man, and I mean NOOOO MAN should ever get to claim rape by a woman. Unless you were drugged. Otherwise, you're turned on if you're able to get it up.

This is a perfectly clear example of why there is such a thing as statutory rape. Most, if not all 14 year olds, would be ready for action with a 20 year old. Hell, most of their wet dreams probably involve something along these lines. It doesn't mean they are ready for what consequences may come of it.

(09-16-2014 02:18 PM)TStatebobcat Wrote:  

(09-16-2014 02:12 PM)LSU04_08 Wrote:  Garnishing wages from a rapist is a great idea, but he claims he was raped. Lol, no man, and I mean NOOOO MAN should ever get to claim rape by a woman. Unless you were drugged. Otherwise, you're turned on if you're able to get it up.

This is a perfectly clear example of why there is such a thing as statutory rape. Most, if not all 14 year olds, would be ready for action with a 20 year old. Hell, most of their wet dreams probably involve something along these lines. It doesn't mean they are ready for what consequences may come of it.

Statutory rape, sure, but not forced rape. I wouldn't exactly say she raped him. But what she did was very gross, and I would tell her to f*ck off. She should be charged with child molestation.

(09-16-2014 02:12 PM)LSU04_08 Wrote:  Garnishing wages from a rapist is a great idea, but he claims he was raped. Lol, no man, and I mean NOOOO MAN should ever get to claim rape by a woman. Unless you were drugged. Otherwise, you're turned on if you're able to get it up.

Well this is asinine.

(09-16-2014 02:36 PM)BleedsHuskieRed Wrote:  

(09-16-2014 02:12 PM)LSU04_08 Wrote:  Garnishing wages from a rapist is a great idea, but he claims he was raped. Lol, no man, and I mean NOOOO MAN should ever get to claim rape by a woman. Unless you were drugged. Otherwise, you're turned on if you're able to get it up.

Well this is asinine.

Could you be raped by a female without a hard-on? It wasn't forced rape, it was child molestation.

He didn't find out that he was a dad until the kid was 10? And he is supposed to owe $$$ for the first 10 years? That doesn't make any sense to me.

10% interest?

(09-16-2014 02:38 PM)LSU04_08 Wrote:  

(09-16-2014 02:36 PM)BleedsHuskieRed Wrote:  

(09-16-2014 02:12 PM)LSU04_08 Wrote:  Garnishing wages from a rapist is a great idea, but he claims he was raped. Lol, no man, and I mean NOOOO MAN should ever get to claim rape by a woman. Unless you were drugged. Otherwise, you're turned on if you're able to get it up.

Well this is asinine.

Could you be raped by a female without a hard-on? It wasn't forced rape, it was child molestation.

Since when does physical arousal equal consent?

(09-16-2014 02:43 PM)BleedsHuskieRed Wrote:  

(09-16-2014 02:38 PM)LSU04_08 Wrote:  

(09-16-2014 02:36 PM)BleedsHuskieRed Wrote:  

(09-16-2014 02:12 PM)LSU04_08 Wrote:  Garnishing wages from a rapist is a great idea, but he claims he was raped. Lol, no man, and I mean NOOOO MAN should ever get to claim rape by a woman. Unless you were drugged. Otherwise, you're turned on if you're able to get it up.

Well this is asinine.

Could you be raped by a female without a hard-on? It wasn't forced rape, it was child molestation.

Since when does physical arousal equal consent?

He was under the age of consent. I'm not saying I agree with the teacher, I'm just saying he wasn't forcibly raped. She should serve time for child molestation.

(09-16-2014 02:38 PM)LSU04_08 Wrote:  

(09-16-2014 02:36 PM)BleedsHuskieRed Wrote:  

(09-16-2014 02:12 PM)LSU04_08 Wrote:  Garnishing wages from a rapist is a great idea, but he claims he was raped. Lol, no man, and I mean NOOOO MAN should ever get to claim rape by a woman. Unless you were drugged. Otherwise, you're turned on if you're able to get it up.

Well this is asinine.

Could you be raped by a female without a hard-on? It wasn't forced rape, it was child molestation.

You do realize what you're saying is akin to "if she gets moist it's not rape"...

As much as people want to think they can only get an erection when turned on it is, in point of fact, not a voluntary reaction.

Hell at the age of 14 all it takes is tight jeans and a train ride to force a boy to walk around with his folder infront of his crotch.

That being said the MAN is not saying he was raped. He is saying that when he was a Boy he was raped...

(09-16-2014 02:46 PM)LSU04_08 Wrote:  

(09-16-2014 02:43 PM)BleedsHuskieRed Wrote:  

(09-16-2014 02:38 PM)LSU04_08 Wrote:  

(09-16-2014 02:36 PM)BleedsHuskieRed Wrote:  

(09-16-2014 02:12 PM)LSU04_08 Wrote:  Garnishing wages from a rapist is a great idea, but he claims he was raped. Lol, no man, and I mean NOOOO MAN should ever get to claim rape by a woman. Unless you were drugged. Otherwise, you're turned on if you're able to get it up.

Well this is asinine.

Could you be raped by a female without a hard-on? It wasn't forced rape, it was child molestation.

Since when does physical arousal equal consent?

He was under the age of consent. I'm not saying I agree with the teacher, I'm just saying he wasn't forcibly raped. She should serve time for child molestation.

I want legal consistency, so if it isn't consensual sex if a women has vaginal secretions or orgasms from rape, the a similar standard should apply for men too. I think this case would definitely apply.

(09-16-2014 02:00 PM)Love and Honor Wrote:  

Quote:When Nick Olivas was 14, he claimed he had an alleged -- and illicit -- affair with a 20-year-old woman.

Two years ago, when the older woman filed for public assistance, Olivas, 24, learned that he was the father of her daughter. The Arizona Department of Economic Security then looked for someone responsible for the girl's financial well-being and tracked down Olivas.

According to the state, he now owes $15,000 in child support, plus money for his daughter's birth expenses and 10 percent interest. But Olivas says he shouldn't owe a cent because he claims he was the victim of statutory rape when he fathered the child.

Arizona state law puts 15 as the age of consent, but Olivas didn't press charges because he didn't realize it was an option at the time, according to the Arizona Republic.

Olivas graduated high school, went to college and became a medical assistant. About $380 a month is garnished from his wages for child support.

Making a rape victim pay child support may sound cruel and unusual, but an official for the Arizona Department of Economic Security said assuring support for the child is the main priority...

This guy shouldn't have to pay a dime. And it's BS that a woman can come out of the woodwork after keeping you in the dark about your own child, then demand you repay her for the **** you didn't pay for when she kept your child from you. F that c.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/09/05...ps=gravity

That's what got him in this situation to begin with.


...seriously though, I agree 100%.

(09-16-2014 02:48 PM)Bull_In_Exile Wrote:  You do realize what you're saying is akin to "if she gets moist it's not rape"...

As much as people want to think they can only get an erection when turned on it is, in point of fact, not a voluntary reaction.

Hell at the age of 14 all it takes is tight jeans and a train ride to force a boy to walk around with his folder infront of his crotch.

That being said the MAN is not saying he was raped. He is saying that when he was a Boy he was raped...

(09-16-2014 02:51 PM)vandiver49 Wrote:  I want legal consistency, so if it isn't consensual sex if a women has vaginal secretions or orgasms from rape, the a similar standard should apply for men too. I think this case would definitely apply.

I'm coming across wrong, no pun intended. I'll just say I was wrong and tiptoe out of here...

(09-16-2014 02:48 PM)Bull_In_Exile Wrote:  

(09-16-2014 02:38 PM)LSU04_08 Wrote:  

(09-16-2014 02:36 PM)BleedsHuskieRed Wrote:  

(09-16-2014 02:12 PM)LSU04_08 Wrote:  Garnishing wages from a rapist is a great idea, but he claims he was raped. Lol, no man, and I mean NOOOO MAN should ever get to claim rape by a woman. Unless you were drugged. Otherwise, you're turned on if you're able to get it up.

Well this is asinine.

Could you be raped by a female without a hard-on? It wasn't forced rape, it was child molestation.

You do realize what you're saying is akin to "if she gets moist it's not rape"...

very true

(09-16-2014 03:29 PM)LSU04_08 Wrote:  

(09-16-2014 02:48 PM)Bull_In_Exile Wrote:  You do realize what you're saying is akin to "if she gets moist it's not rape"...

As much as people want to think they can only get an erection when turned on it is, in point of fact, not a voluntary reaction.

Hell at the age of 14 all it takes is tight jeans and a train ride to force a boy to walk around with his folder infront of his crotch.

That being said the MAN is not saying he was raped. He is saying that when he was a Boy he was raped...

(09-16-2014 02:51 PM)vandiver49 Wrote:  I want legal consistency, so if it isn't consensual sex if a women has vaginal secretions or orgasms from rape, the a similar standard should apply for men too. I think this case would definitely apply.

I'm coming across wrong, no pun intended. I'll just say I was wrong and tiptoe out of here...

Big of you and I think I understand what you were trying to say. This was not a physical assault and forced rape but her being 20 and him being 14 makes it rape. This is not a 17/19 scenario.