white voters without a college degree made up 65% of the electorate. By 2012 that demographic was 36%.

Obama beat McCain 50-48 among those with bachelor’s degrees, and by a decisive 58-40 among the 17 percent of the 2008 electorate with post-graduate degrees.

The shifting allegiance of the better-educated – together with the growth of such pro-Democratic constituencies as single women, Hispanics and African-Americans — has been a crucial factor in the revival of the Democratic Party as a fully competitive force in presidential elections. The party’s gains have, in many respects, made up for losses among white working class voters.


Discuss.

Obama is a charismatic guy. There's nothing he can't do without his teleprompter.. You don't believe he's charismatic, explain how he won the Nobel Prize for Peace before he became President.

Many people were wowed by this guy because he was likable, he had great ideas, and he was different than the past administration.

I have a bachelor's and I didn't vote for him (shocker right?). When I did my research on him, I couldn't find where he had really accomplished a good deal of things, his experience was lacking, and the things he had done or accomplished, didn't line up with I guess my ideology. Did I think he could give a speech? Yes he could. The MSM won that election for him. They presented him as a young go getter.

Those in the education industry are well known to be left leaning. They have influenced the voting block, and the more time people are exposed to such leftist indoctrination, the more effective it is.

The more-in-depth have become the more-in-debt.

(09-16-2014 07:17 AM)Machiavelli Wrote:  white voters without a college degree made up 65% of the electorate. By 2012 that demographic was 36%.

Obama beat McCain 50-48 among those with bachelor’s degrees, and by a decisive 58-40 among the 17 percent of the 2008 electorate with post-graduate degrees.

The shifting allegiance of the better-educated – together with the growth of such pro-Democratic constituencies as single women, Hispanics and African-Americans — has been a crucial factor in the revival of the Democratic Party as a fully competitive force in presidential elections. The party’s gains have, in many respects, made up for losses among white working class voters.


Discuss.

Not much to discuss here other the demographic shift is not a good thing for anyone except the democratic party. Single moms - not good. Illegal aliens suppressing wages - not good. Record low middle-class birthrates - not good. An education system with a group think mentality - not good.

The only falsehood in your analysis is that African Americans are not making gains. They have been stuck on 12%-13% for decades.

Better educated doesn't mean smarter.

(09-16-2014 07:53 AM)QuestionSocratic Wrote:  Better educated doesn't mean smarter.

Yes. Actually mach makes the usual mistake of claiming the populace is better educated, when in fact they are not. The abundant test scores prove that.

Today's populace is better credentialed.

The populace is far better educated today than at any other time in our history. Kids have to have more credits. They have to pass a graduation exam. Those scores continue to go up.

(09-16-2014 07:17 AM)Machiavelli Wrote:  white voters without a college degree made up 65% of the electorate. By 2012 that demographic was 36%.

Obama beat McCain 50-48 among those with bachelor’s degrees, and by a decisive 58-40 among the 17 percent of the 2008 electorate with post-graduate degrees.

The shifting allegiance of the better-educated – together with the growth of such pro-Democratic constituencies as single women, Hispanics and African-Americans — has been a crucial factor in the revival of the Democratic Party as a fully competitive force in presidential elections. The party’s gains have, in many respects, made up for losses among white working class voters.


Discuss.

The way leftists, or as you call them democrats, have decided to revive their party is by pitting groups against "the white man". White kids who go through college get a four year does of "white guilt" about their "white privilege" and come out leaning left because of it.

Eventually the groups will start turning on each other, it's just a matter of time. Heck there is already resentment of Asians who are no longer a part of the "protected" class which gets preferential admission.

My in laws who were democrats back in the day have seen it and started to change their political stripes. It will be the same for more conservative Hispanics in 10-15 yeas.

The only question is what will be left to squabble over once the left is done destroying prosperity in this nation.

(09-16-2014 08:29 AM)Machiavelli Wrote:  The populace is far better educated today than at any other time in our history. Kids have to have more credits. They have to pass a graduation exam. Those scores continue to go up.

Having to get more credits does not mean "better educated" it means you dropped more money on a piece of paper. I don't see a vastly better educated populace out there I see one that has spent more time in school.

(09-16-2014 07:42 AM)EverRespect Wrote:  

(09-16-2014 07:17 AM)Machiavelli Wrote:  white voters without a college degree made up 65% of the electorate. By 2012 that demographic was 36%.

Obama beat McCain 50-48 among those with bachelor’s degrees, and by a decisive 58-40 among the 17 percent of the 2008 electorate with post-graduate degrees.

The shifting allegiance of the better-educated – together with the growth of such pro-Democratic constituencies as single women, Hispanics and African-Americans — has been a crucial factor in the revival of the Democratic Party as a fully competitive force in presidential elections. The party’s gains have, in many respects, made up for losses among white working class voters.


Discuss.

Not much to discuss here other the demographic shift is not a good thing for anyone except the democratic party. Single moms - not good. Illegal aliens suppressing wages - not good. Record low middle-class birthrates - not good. An education system with a group think mentality - not good.

The only falsehood in your analysis is that African Americans are not making gains. They have been stuck on 12%-13% for decades.

(09-16-2014 07:42 AM)EverRespect Wrote:  

(09-16-2014 07:17 AM)Machiavelli Wrote:  white voters without a college degree made up 65% of the electorate. By 2012 that demographic was 36%.

Obama beat McCain 50-48 among those with bachelor’s degrees, and by a decisive 58-40 among the 17 percent of the 2008 electorate with post-graduate degrees.

The shifting allegiance of the better-educated – together with the growth of such pro-Democratic constituencies as single women, Hispanics and African-Americans — has been a crucial factor in the revival of the Democratic Party as a fully competitive force in presidential elections. The party’s gains have, in many respects, made up for losses among white working class voters.


Discuss.

Not much to discuss here other the demographic shift is not a good thing for anyone except the democratic party. Single moms - not good. Illegal aliens suppressing wages - not good. Record low middle-class birthrates - not good. An education system with a group think mentality - not good.

The only falsehood in your analysis is that African Americans are not making gains. They have been stuck on 12%-13% for decades.

Dems pushing abortion has kept blacks at a low percentage, then they are allowing the borders to be and
remain open so that Hispanics are an even larger minority. What helps the Democrat party doesn't help
blacks in a lot of cases.

That's because having a BA today is like having a high school diploma. Every idiot has one.

(09-16-2014 07:17 AM)Machiavelli Wrote:  white voters without a college degree made up 65% of the electorate. By 2012 that demographic was 36%.

Obama beat McCain 50-48 among those with bachelor’s degrees, and by a decisive 58-40 among the 17 percent of the 2008 electorate with post-graduate degrees.

The shifting allegiance of the better-educated – together with the growth of such pro-Democratic constituencies as single women, Hispanics and African-Americans — has been a crucial factor in the revival of the Democratic Party as a fully competitive force in presidential elections. The party’s gains have, in many respects, made up for losses among white working class voters.


Discuss.

Where all da white men at?

(09-16-2014 08:29 AM)Machiavelli Wrote:  The populace is far better educated today than at any other time in our history. Kids have to have more credits.

So you simply repeat statements that have shown to be false.

Typical.

At some point you might engage in actual thinking, instead of just parroting the nonsense you've been fed from your own "education".

No need to discuss, the numbers say it all.

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(09-16-2014 08:29 AM)Machiavelli Wrote:  The populace is far better educated today than at any other time in our history. Kids have to have more credits. They have to pass a graduation exam. Those scores continue to go up.

but not nearly as smart.

(09-16-2014 07:17 AM)Machiavelli Wrote:  white voters without a college degree made up 65% of the electorate. By 2012 that demographic was 36%.

Obama beat McCain 50-48 among those with bachelor’s degrees, and by a decisive 58-40 among the 17 percent of the 2008 electorate with post-graduate degrees.

The shifting allegiance of the better-educated – together with the growth of such pro-Democratic constituencies as single women, Hispanics and African-Americans — has been a crucial factor in the revival of the Democratic Party as a fully competitive force in presidential elections. The party’s gains have, in many respects, made up for losses among white working class voters.


Discuss.

That should be a key factor in proof that common sense is better than high dollar education. Thanks for showing those stats. I've been saying this for years.

(09-16-2014 08:29 AM)Machiavelli Wrote:  The populace is far better educated today than at any other time in our history. Kids have to have more credits. They have to pass a graduation exam. Those scores continue to go up.

Dude, education has been dumbed down. It's not that hard to pass anything. Especially when you're allowed to use a calculator and computer to answer whatever you need. Kids have gotten lazy in that department, their math skills have gone to pot, their grammar has gone to pot, and their reading skills have gone to pot. Why? Because of dumbed down education. Think about it.

(09-16-2014 08:29 AM)Machiavelli Wrote:  The populace is far better educated today than at any other time in our history. Kids have to have more credits. They have to pass a graduation exam. Those scores continue to go up.

While the criteria to obtain those scores continues to go down? Liberal logic isn't really logical. Lowering the bar to better accommodate kids decidedly unqualified by any objective measure isn't really an accomplishment and plays to the lowest common denominator. Is that really what we want coming out of our educational institutions?


Posted from the shallow recesses of my feeble mind.