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RE: The AAC is leading MW,CUSA and Sunbelt in Attendance this Season
(09-16-2014 11:21 AM)PirateMarv Wrote:  
(09-16-2014 08:18 AM)goodknightfl Wrote:  
(09-16-2014 06:36 AM)MUsince96 Wrote:  And C-USA is undefeated against the other 'non-contract' conferences. What more can I say? This is factual!

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and they are 0 for against power teams. what can I say that is factual.

And the AAC is the 6th rated conference and CUSA is the 8th or 9th rated conference.


http://realtimerpi.com/college_football/...f_Men.html

That is factual.
even though my school is in the AAC, rankings aren't "factual" - they are aggregated opinion. The rankings maker decides what is important and how important it is. that isn't fact - it's opinion set to numbers.
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RE: The AAC is leading MW,CUSA and Sunbelt in Attendance this Season
Talking conferences not teams. I have stated multiple times ECU and Duke are currently the best two programs in NC. Dude, ECU really needs to lose the chip on the shoulder, not everything is about ECU. AAC is part of the G5 and that is not going to change any time in the near future. Watch the move frozen and lean to "Let it Go" 03-wink ECU no longer needs to play NCSU or UNC to proves it's relevance. I know somehow Pirate Fans will take it as an insult, but is is a compliment. You all remind me how VT made itself relevant, keep winning and that B12 invite will come sooner than you realize. You all would be great B12 rivals to WVU! I just wish most ECU fans could just act like they have arrived instead of taking shots at NCSU and UNC all the time. If anything, that feeds that ECU is still trying to be equivalent to these FBS programs when in a practicality, you are. ECU has proved it time and again, just act like it. Again, I know somehow this will be viewed as insult by some ECU fans.
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RE: The AAC is leading MW,CUSA and Sunbelt in Attendance this Season
(09-16-2014 11:21 AM)PirateMarv Wrote:  
(09-16-2014 08:18 AM)goodknightfl Wrote:  
(09-16-2014 06:36 AM)MUsince96 Wrote:  And C-USA is undefeated against the other 'non-contract' conferences. What more can I say? This is factual!

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and they are 0 for against power teams. what can I say that is factual.

And the AAC is the 6th rated conference and CUSA is the 8th or 9th rated conference.


http://realtimerpi.com/college_football/...f_Men.html

That is factual.


Oooh, football RPI! That's about as relevant as this http://warrennolan.com/football/2014/conferencenpi

C-USA 7th, AAC 9th
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RE: The AAC is leading MW,CUSA and Sunbelt in Attendance this Season
Why are we having this argument when the P5 mentality is our real enemy? I personally want EVERY G5 conference to do well. That's about all we can do to counter their (the P5's) elitist arguments.

I congratulate CUSA on their better than expected performances so far. My hope is that they can sustain it, which is the real question mark at this point.

Anyways, back to the in-fighting......
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RE: The AAC is leading MW,CUSA and Sunbelt in Attendance this Season
(09-16-2014 11:26 AM)adcorbett Wrote:  Here are the totals thru Sunday

Code:
Rk    Conf      Attendance  Gms    Avg Attendance
1    SEC..     2,074,516    27    76,833.93
2    Big10    1,603,509     25    64,140.36
3    Big 12    1,014,780    17    59,692.94
4    Indy..    263,738      5    52,747.60
5    Pac-12    997,145      19    52,481.32
6    ACC       1,152,466    24    48,019.42
7    Amer       482,639    16    30,164.94
8    MWC       478,038      19    25,159.89
9    CUSA       427,530    19    22,501.58
10    SunB     366,794     17    21,576.12
11    MAC       343,034     19    18,054.42
NA    Total      9,204,189    207    44,464.68

Wow! It's the SEC and the rest.

Notice the difference between the highest attended G5 conference and the lowest attended P5 conference: 18k. Instead of fighting who's the tallest midget, we need to pull for each other when our schools play against the P5 cartel. UTEP can hold its own when it comes to attendance. We're capable of being in second place behind BYU attendance wise but it's a worthless argument when it comes to who really is the enemy here. Hint, it's not the other G5 conferences.
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RE: The AAC is leading MW,CUSA and Sunbelt in Attendance this Season
(09-16-2014 03:22 PM)UTEPDallas Wrote:  
(09-16-2014 11:26 AM)adcorbett Wrote:  Here are the totals thru Sunday

Code:
Rk    Conf      Attendance  Gms    Avg Attendance
1    SEC..     2,074,516    27    76,833.93
2    Big10    1,603,509     25    64,140.36
3    Big 12    1,014,780    17    59,692.94
4    Indy..    263,738      5    52,747.60
5    Pac-12    997,145      19    52,481.32
6    ACC       1,152,466    24    48,019.42
7    Amer       482,639    16    30,164.94
8    MWC       478,038      19    25,159.89
9    CUSA       427,530    19    22,501.58
10    SunB     366,794     17    21,576.12
11    MAC       343,034     19    18,054.42
NA    Total      9,204,189    207    44,464.68

Wow! It's the SEC and the rest.

Notice the difference between the highest attended G5 conference and the lowest attended P5 conference: 18k. Instead of fighting who's the tallest midget, we need to pull for each other when our schools play against the P5 cartel. UTEP can hold its own when it comes to attendance. We're capable of being in second place behind BYU attendance wise but it's a worthless argument when it comes to who really is the enemy here. Hint, it's not the other G5 conferences.

Good Lord---it really kinda is.

If you look at that chart, you can see the reason why I think getting to a 40K conference average attendance is so important. Get over 40K, and I think you start seeing some ESPN love and a media paycheck that begins to approach their numbers. If the AAC had grabbed UTSA instead of Tulsa---they would have only one school that would have no real 40K+ potential. This year, about half the conference could average 35-40K (or more). Still, adding 10K to the per game conference attendance average is a big hill to climb. If you started from scratch---I think you could build a G5 conference that could reach those numbers in few years (it would be very spread out though). Start with BYU and ECU---that would give the conference an attendance boost.
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RE: The AAC is leading MW,CUSA and Sunbelt in Attendance this Season
(09-16-2014 03:51 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  If the AAC had grabbed UTSA instead of Tulsa---they would have only one school that would have no real 40K+ potential. This year, about half the conference could average 35-40K (or more). Still, adding 10K to the per game conference attendance average is a big hill to climb.


For ish and giggles, here are the AAC teams to date, along with occasionally mentioned expansion teams

Code:
Institution    Conf    Total    Avg Att    Capacity    PCT    Gms
ECU        AAC    42,758    42,758    50,000    85.52    1
Houston    AAC    70,836    35,418    40,000    88.55    2
Cincy     AAC    31,912    31,912    35,000    91.18    1
UConn    AAC    88,791    29,597    40,000    73.99    3
USF        AAC    87,826    29,275    65,857    44.45    3
Temple    AAC    28,408    28,408    68,532    41.45    1
Tulane    AAC    56,358    28,179    69,767    40.39    2
Memphis    AAC    27,361    27,361    59,308    46.13    1
Tulsa         AAC    48,389    24,195    30,000    80.65    2
BYU         Indy    57,630    57,630    64,045    89.98    1
Boise     MWC    34,910    34,910    36,387    95.94    1
UTEP        CUSA    68,401    34,201    52,000    65.77    2
UTSA         CUSA    33,472    33,472    65,000    51.5    1
Air Force    MWC    32,038    32,038    46,692    68.62    1
La.-Laf    SUN    61,777    30,889    31,000    99.64    2
SD St.    MWC    30,761    30,761    51,000    60.32    1
Army     Indy    28,643    28,643    38,000    75.38    1
So Miss. CUSA    26,448    26,448    36,000    73.47    1
Tex St.    SUN    49,820    24,910    30,000    83.03    2
Buffalo    MAC    45,043    22,522    29,013    77.63    2
UMass    MAC    40,706    20,353    17,000    119.72    2
ODU     CUSA    40,236    20,118    20,118    100    2
No Tex    CUSA    39,396    19,698    30,850    63.85    2
Charl    Indy    15,875    15,875    15,314    103.66    1
UNLV     MWC    31,594    15,797    36,800    42.93    2


Keep in mind with all of these, we are only one and 2 games in. A lot of teams have played a 1AA school which likely harmed their attendance, and is either their only home game, or one of two.

South Alabama also had an impressive number, but they did play Miss St, so that is a bit of an anomaly.
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RE: The AAC is leading MW,CUSA and Sunbelt in Attendance this Season
(09-16-2014 04:17 PM)adcorbett Wrote:  
(09-16-2014 03:51 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  If the AAC had grabbed UTSA instead of Tulsa---they would have only one school that would have no real 40K+ potential. This year, about half the conference could average 35-40K (or more). Still, adding 10K to the per game conference attendance average is a big hill to climb.


For ish and giggles, here are the AAC teams to date, along with occasionally mentioned expansion teams

Code:
Institution    Conf    Total    Avg Att    Capacity    PCT    Gms
ECU        AAC    42,758    42,758    50,000    85.52    1
Houston    AAC    70,836    35,418    40,000    88.55    2
Cincy     AAC    31,912    31,912    35,000    91.18    1
UConn    AAC    88,791    29,597    40,000    73.99    3
USF        AAC    87,826    29,275    65,857    44.45    3
Temple    AAC    28,408    28,408    68,532    41.45    1
Tulane    AAC    56,358    28,179    69,767    40.39    2
Memphis    AAC    27,361    27,361    59,308    46.13    1
Tulsa         AAC    48,389    24,195    30,000    80.65    2
BYU         Indy    57,630    57,630    64,045    89.98    1
Boise     MWC    34,910    34,910    36,387    95.94    1
UTEP        CUSA    68,401    34,201    52,000    65.77    2
UTSA         CUSA    33,472    33,472    65,000    51.5    1
Air Force    MWC    32,038    32,038    46,692    68.62    1
La.-Laf    SUN    61,777    30,889    31,000    99.64    2
SD St.    MWC    30,761    30,761    51,000    60.32    1
Army     Indy    28,643    28,643    38,000    75.38    1
So Miss. CUSA    26,448    26,448    36,000    73.47    1
Tex St.    SUN    49,820    24,910    30,000    83.03    2
Buffalo    MAC    45,043    22,522    29,013    77.63    2
UMass    MAC    40,706    20,353    17,000    119.72    2
ODU     CUSA    40,236    20,118    20,118    100    2
No Tex    CUSA    39,396    19,698    30,850    63.85    2
Charl    Indy    15,875    15,875    15,314    103.66    1
UNLV     MWC    31,594    15,797    36,800    42.93    2


Keep in mind with all of these, we are only one and 2 games in. A lot of teams have played a 1AA school which likely harmed their attendance, and is either their only home game, or one of two.

South Alabama also had an impressive number, but they did play Miss St, so that is a bit of an anomaly.

As you can see, getting to a 40K per game conference average is tough. UTEP has turned in some interesting numbers as well. I'm curious to see how a pretty decent Memphis team will do at the turnstiles.
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(09-16-2014 11:56 AM)BeliefBlazer Wrote:  
(09-16-2014 11:21 AM)PirateMarv Wrote:  
(09-16-2014 08:18 AM)goodknightfl Wrote:  
(09-16-2014 06:36 AM)MUsince96 Wrote:  And C-USA is undefeated against the other 'non-contract' conferences. What more can I say? This is factual!

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and they are 0 for against power teams. what can I say that is factual.

And the AAC is the 6th rated conference and CUSA is the 8th or 9th rated conference.


http://realtimerpi.com/college_football/...f_Men.html

That is factual.


Oooh, football RPI! That's about as relevant as this http://warrennolan.com/football/2014/conferencenpi

C-USA 7th, AAC 9th

Any conference football ranking that puts the conference that UAB is in; in front of a conference that ECU is in, is already dubious.
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(09-16-2014 04:17 PM)adcorbett Wrote:  
(09-16-2014 03:51 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  If the AAC had grabbed UTSA instead of Tulsa---they would have only one school that would have no real 40K+ potential. This year, about half the conference could average 35-40K (or more). Still, adding 10K to the per game conference attendance average is a big hill to climb.


For ish and giggles, here are the AAC teams to date, along with occasionally mentioned expansion teams

Code:
Institution    Conf    Total    Avg Att    Capacity    PCT    Gms
ECU        AAC    42,758    42,758    50,000    85.52    1
Houston    AAC    70,836    35,418    40,000    88.55    2
Cincy     AAC    31,912    31,912    35,000    91.18    1
UConn    AAC    88,791    29,597    40,000    73.99    3
USF        AAC    87,826    29,275    65,857    44.45    3
Temple    AAC    28,408    28,408    68,532    41.45    1
Tulane    AAC    56,358    28,179    69,767    40.39    2
Memphis    AAC    27,361    27,361    59,308    46.13    1
Tulsa         AAC    48,389    24,195    30,000    80.65    2
BYU         Indy    57,630    57,630    64,045    89.98    1
Boise     MWC    34,910    34,910    36,387    95.94    1
UTEP        CUSA    68,401    34,201    52,000    65.77    2
UTSA         CUSA    33,472    33,472    65,000    51.5    1
Air Force    MWC    32,038    32,038    46,692    68.62    1
La.-Laf    SUN    61,777    30,889    31,000    99.64    2
SD St.    MWC    30,761    30,761    51,000    60.32    1
Army     Indy    28,643    28,643    38,000    75.38    1
So Miss. CUSA    26,448    26,448    36,000    73.47    1
Tex St.    SUN    49,820    24,910    30,000    83.03    2
Buffalo    MAC    45,043    22,522    29,013    77.63    2
UMass    MAC    40,706    20,353    17,000    119.72    2
ODU     CUSA    40,236    20,118    20,118    100    2
No Tex    CUSA    39,396    19,698    30,850    63.85    2
Charl    Indy    15,875    15,875    15,314    103.66    1
UNLV     MWC    31,594    15,797    36,800    42.93    2


Keep in mind with all of these, we are only one and 2 games in. A lot of teams have played a 1AA school which likely harmed their attendance, and is either their only home game, or one of two.

South Alabama also had an impressive number, but they did play Miss St, so that is a bit of an anomaly.

Speaking of which, SMU hosts A&M this weekend.

I hope we see the average rise a good bit after this weekend. UCF & ECU play at home (I think both are sold out--I know we are for sure), UH plays at home and Memphis hosts an in-state team.
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I've always noticed when folks start talking attendance, performance on the field isn't as good as one would have expected.
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(09-16-2014 11:53 AM)msm96wolf Wrote:  Talking conferences not teams. I have stated multiple times ECU and Duke are currently the best two programs in NC. Dude, ECU really needs to lose the chip on the shoulder, not everything is about ECU. AAC is part of the G5 and that is not going to change any time in the near future. Watch the move frozen and lean to "Let it Go" 03-wink ECU no longer needs to play NCSU or UNC to proves it's relevance. I know somehow Pirate Fans will take it as an insult, but is is a compliment. You all remind me how VT made itself relevant, keep winning and that B12 invite will come sooner than you realize. You all would be great B12 rivals to WVU! I just wish most ECU fans could just act like they have arrived instead of taking shots at NCSU and UNC all the time. If anything, that feeds that ECU is still trying to be equivalent to these FBS programs when in a practicality, you are. ECU has proved it time and again, just act like it. Again, I know somehow this will be viewed as insult by some ECU fans.

We don't need to play UNC and NCSU to prove our relevance. We want to play those games because they make for good regional rivalries and they're good for the state of NC, foreign concept I know. I know NCSUx would rather play home and home with an FCS, Sunbelch or CUSA...
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