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How do other Sun Belt teams get quality non-conference games at home?
Many Ga. Southern fans are constantly asking our AD when we will get some quality non-conference games at home. So far all we know is we have a home/home with Western Michigan (2015-16) and with Kent St. (2017-18 or it might be 2018-19).

Is it that our stadium size is not big enough? With standing room seats our capacity is probably 27-28 thousand right now.

Do other Sun Belt teams generally do 2 for 1 deals very much?

I just look around and South Alabama hosted Miss. St. Ark. St. is going to host Missouri. Louisiana is hosting Boise St. Ga. State got Air Force. ULM hosted Wake Forest and Troy hosted Duke.

I am just wondering when Ga. Southern will get anyone like these to come to Paulson.
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RE: How do other Sun Belt teams get quality non-conference games at home?
We haven't been shopping for very long...
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RE: How do other Sun Belt teams get quality non-conference games at home?
I've been pleased with what App has done in the same time.
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RE: How do other Sun Belt teams get quality non-conference games at home?
I would agree that App has done a better job than we have of scheduling non-conference games so far.
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RE: How do other Sun Belt teams get quality non-conference games at home?
Stadium size often times does play a factor in potential home and home deals (many P5 schools will not travel to a G5 school if it sits under 30,000). In those cases, the G5 school will host the power team at another stadium (often times a NFL stadium or a larger facility in relatively close city). Their are some that make exceptions.

It seems another factor is where the certain G5 school is located (for example, FIU and Louisville have played home and home for the last four seasons now primarily because Louisville recruits the south Florida area pretty hard).

Give it time. Eventually some Power school is going to need to fill it's last few open slots and when it see's Ga. Southern available, that's where the Eagles administration can really bargain for a home and home.
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RE: How do other Sun Belt teams get quality non-conference games at home?
(09-15-2014 08:40 PM)Saint3333 Wrote:  I've been pleased with what App has done in the same time.

I saw that y'all have a home and home with ODU, who else?
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RE: How do other Sun Belt teams get quality non-conference games at home?
In our case.....I have no idea. Teis is so inept it's a wonder we have any OOC FBS games at all.
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(09-15-2014 08:45 PM)bullitt_60 Wrote:  
(09-15-2014 08:40 PM)Saint3333 Wrote:  I've been pleased with what App has done in the same time.

I saw that y'all have a home and home with ODU, who else?

Wyoming, Southern Miss, and Akron in addition to ODU. There are rumors about an ACC school though no one can confirm that. I would guess it would likely be Wake Forest. So, at this point, no big name schools or BCS schools. Not sure we are that far ahead of you guys.
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RE: How do other Sun Belt teams get quality non-conference games at home?
(09-15-2014 08:50 PM)hapapp Wrote:  
(09-15-2014 08:45 PM)bullitt_60 Wrote:  
(09-15-2014 08:40 PM)Saint3333 Wrote:  I've been pleased with what App has done in the same time.

I saw that y'all have a home and home with ODU, who else?

Wyoming, Southern Miss, and Akron in addition to ODU. There are rumors about an ACC school though no one can confirm that. I would guess it would likely be Wake Forest. So, at this point, no big name schools or BCS schools. Not sure we are that far ahead of you guys.

I think this is smart scheduling on Apps part. I know a lot of people are saying we had a good schedule this year but as far as I'm concerned if we don't have six home games I'm not happy. To accomplish that we need to get to a point were we can have one money game, one home FCS and a home and home with two G5's. To me that would be a perfect schedule.
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RE: How do other Sun Belt teams get quality non-conference games at home?
(09-15-2014 08:50 PM)hapapp Wrote:  
(09-15-2014 08:45 PM)bullitt_60 Wrote:  
(09-15-2014 08:40 PM)Saint3333 Wrote:  I've been pleased with what App has done in the same time.

I saw that y'all have a home and home with ODU, who else?

Wyoming, Southern Miss, and Akron in addition to ODU. There are rumors about an ACC school though no one can confirm that. I would guess it would likely be Wake Forest. So, at this point, no big name schools or BCS schools. Not sure we are that far ahead of you guys.

Oh, I didn't realize USM was a home and home. I like that series, I'd pay to see that. Hopefully you are both a full strength during the home leg.
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RE: How do other Sun Belt teams get quality non-conference games at home?
That is exactly what I would like to see also. 1 money game, 1 FCS game and 2 home/homes with other G5s or 1 G5 and 1 P5.

Don't know after next year but I know next year we are playing 2 money games vs. West Virginia and Georgia.
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RE: How do other Sun Belt teams get quality non-conference games at home?
(09-15-2014 08:42 PM)GaSoEagle Wrote:  I would agree that App has done a better job than we have of scheduling non-conference games so far.

Speaking of what I know of Apps effort so far, we have been very, very firm on hosting 6 games every year, and scheduling only one money game per year. Our attendance helps us in this case, because we have a solid history of Turning out for games even against the likes of Campbell and Mars Hill. While we have been teased that a home and home with the ACC is coming, I'm actually impressed with the kinds of teams we are getting from the MW, CUSA and MAC. All are winnable games. It also means we will always likely have an FCS home game, and perhaps two if scheduling FBS will not keep us with 6 home games.

Scheduling other G5 teams or lower end P5 teams your stadium size should to be an issue if you can get 25k or more in the facility. I just think scheduling should have a discipline to it: that you have some standards, and some expectations on what the result should be.

I hope whomever our next AD is will continue with this philosophy. It certainly should be an item of discussion with the search committee.
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(09-15-2014 08:54 PM)bullitt_60 Wrote:  
(09-15-2014 08:50 PM)hapapp Wrote:  
(09-15-2014 08:45 PM)bullitt_60 Wrote:  
(09-15-2014 08:40 PM)Saint3333 Wrote:  I've been pleased with what App has done in the same time.

I saw that y'all have a home and home with ODU, who else?

Wyoming, Southern Miss, and Akron in addition to ODU. There are rumors about an ACC school though no one can confirm that. I would guess it would likely be Wake Forest. So, at this point, no big name schools or BCS schools. Not sure we are that far ahead of you guys.

Oh, I didn't realize USM was a home and home. I like that series, I'd pay to see that. Hopefully you are both a full strength during the home leg.

It was to be next year but the USM game in Boone is now 2018, replaced with Wyoming coming to KBS next year instead.
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RE: How do other Sun Belt teams get quality non-conference games at home?
http://www.fbschedules.com/ncaa/sun-belt...ineers.php

Great site for those looking for others schedules or potential openings.

App has one G5 home game scheduled through 2019 so far.
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(09-15-2014 08:57 PM)GaSoEagle Wrote:  That is exactly what I would like to see also. 1 money game, 1 FCS game and 2 home/homes with other G5s or 1 G5 and 1 P5.

Don't know after next year but I know next year we are playing 2 money games vs. West Virginia and Georgia.

Right now we have two FCS games in 2016 but Jacksonville doesn't meet the scholarship requirements so they will be dropped most likely for another money game. AJC is reporting the Georgia Tech and Georgia Southern are in negotiations for another game at GT in 2016.
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(09-15-2014 08:35 PM)GaSoEagle Wrote:  Many Ga. Southern fans are constantly asking our AD when we will get some quality non-conference games at home. So far all we know is we have a home/home with Western Michigan (2015-16) and with Kent St. (2017-18 or it might be 2018-19).

Is it that our stadium size is not big enough? With standing room seats our capacity is probably 27-28 thousand right now.

Do other Sun Belt teams generally do 2 for 1 deals very much?

I just look around and South Alabama hosted Miss. St. Ark. St. is going to host Missouri. Louisiana is hosting Boise St. Ga. State got Air Force. ULM hosted Wake Forest and Troy hosted Duke.

I am just wondering when Ga. Southern will get anyone like these to come to Paulson.

You need one of a few things to go your way.

1. The P5 often must really need the game. Whether for scheduling purposes or not. In 2013, Missouri desperately needed a home game that season. AState recognized that, held out for an extremely high guarantee, and basically held them over a barrel saying, Come here or don't play at all.

2. If you cant get that, being located in a fertile recruiting ground helps. Georgia State is going to get a major conference home game at some point simply because someone wants to recruit Atlanta for instance.

3. Your AD has to have a set of stones, and has to be willing to turn down a game if it comes to it. If you've got the AD whose going to raise his skirt for the first 850K offer, you're never going to be able and turn to that SEC school and say, 1.3 million or come here for a game, final offer.

There might be other factors related to scheduling, but as Terry Mohajir said the other day, we cant say that for sure because we don't know yet how scheduling is going to impact who makes the Top 4 and the access bowls in a given year. If teams with FCS opponents get penalized, you might see a rush to schedule the first G5 they can find.
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We don't have gnats.
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(09-15-2014 09:54 PM)trapdrawApp Wrote:  We don't have gnats.

We don't charge extra.
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How do other Sun Belt teams get quality non-conference games at home?
A lot depends on who your AD knows too. Another favor can be who else is near you to get games.

At TXST it's hard to get teams to come when they can go 45 mins south to a larger stadium in San Antonio. The big schools like destination games for their fans as well.

Teams that don't live up to "destinations" like the ULM, UL, or stAte have great ADs with guts.

The TXST AD got Texas Tech to come but that's about all I expect for a P5. We got Navy, Houston, and UTSA set up so he will consider those home runs and not reach past that.

We had Hawaii til he and Fran messed it up.

Since we have a 6 game series set with UTSA it'll be more difficult to be flexible but I hope we get TCU or Baylor to come.


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You gotta catch P5 schools without a limitless budget in a scheduling bind on a date where you have an opening . . . and demand more money than they are willing to pay so that they'll opt for a home game NOW in exchange for a visiting your stadium a couple years later.

I think that is how stAte got Mizzou and Miami to agree to home & homes.
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