(09-14-2014 09:04 AM)MemphisTigerFreak Wrote:  Larry Porter. His 2 years set us back at least 4

This and Tic Price

(09-14-2014 09:47 PM)mwp1023 Wrote:  

(09-14-2014 09:18 PM)StillJonesing Wrote:  

(09-14-2014 09:04 PM)mwp1023 Wrote:  

(09-14-2014 09:00 PM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  No doubt..."Just Temporary"...was ECU's worst hire in the entire history of its football program.

He couldn't get the coin toss right.... Seriously

We kicked off twice to WVU

Just the thought of JT makes my blood boil

The worst was punting in basically the redzone vs Memphis in a game we lost by 3 points if I remember correctly.

We were losing by 40 to someone and there was only 10 seconds left. Yet JT decided to call 3 timeouts in a row.....

That was a lot of games but Louisville is the one where he pissed Petrino off so they scored again with just a few seconds left. JT then he got up in Petrino's face yelling after he did it when they shook hands like why are you going to run up the score and he was probably like ******* why are you calling 3 timeouts in a 40 point blowout with one minute left and wasting everyones life.

(09-14-2014 07:28 PM)shere khan Wrote:  

(09-14-2014 09:04 AM)MemphisTigerFreak Wrote:  Larry Porter. His 2 years set us back at least 4

Rey Dempsey. His one set us back 10

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(09-14-2014 01:50 PM)EarthBoundMisfit Wrote:  

(09-14-2014 09:04 AM)MemphisTigerFreak Wrote:  Larry Porter. His 2 years set us back at least 4

tie

Larry Porter for sure....but also Rey Dempsey who succeeded Rex Dockery. He just wasn't equipped to be a head coach at the top level of college football,

I think that Rey Dempsey was more detrimental to the program than Larry. Rey's personality just didn't fit the job at Memphis nor did it fit the community. Larry was loved by everyone, the community really wanted him to succeed, he recruited pretty well, but he was just put in a position that he wasn't ready for. Rey was caustic in almost every way possible and never fully realized the difference in athletes required for D1 vs 1AA (FBS/FCS); we were loaded with 1AA type recruits in his tenure.

With the general fan base being so oriented to basketball, I'm surprised no one has mentioned Tic Price. In retrospect, it's hard to imagine anyone firing Larry Finch so that you could hire Tic. Tic and Rey had some of the same qualities; there was no middle road with them. Both of them carried themselves much like John Thompson did, John looked like kid on the sideline acting like he had swagger that he had to legitimate claim to.

(09-15-2014 08:24 AM)oldtiger Wrote:  

(09-14-2014 07:28 PM)shere khan Wrote:  

(09-14-2014 09:04 AM)MemphisTigerFreak Wrote:  Larry Porter. His 2 years set us back at least 4

Rey Dempsey. His one set us back 10

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(09-14-2014 01:50 PM)EarthBoundMisfit Wrote:  

(09-14-2014 09:04 AM)MemphisTigerFreak Wrote:  Larry Porter. His 2 years set us back at least 4

tie

Larry Porter for sure....but also Rey Dempsey who succeeded Rex Dockery. He just wasn't equipped to be a head coach at the top level of college football,

I think that Rey Dempsey was more detrimental to the program than Larry. Rey's personality just didn't fit the job at Memphis nor did it fit the community. Larry was loved by everyone, the community really wanted him to succeed, he recruited pretty well, but he was just put in a position that he wasn't ready for. Rey was caustic in almost every way possible and never fully realized the difference in athletes required for D1 vs 1AA (FBS/FCS); we were loaded with 1AA type recruits in his tenure.

With the general fan base being so oriented to basketball, I'm surprised no one has mentioned Tic Price. In retrospect, it's hard to imagine anyone firing Larry Finch so that you could hire Tic. Tic and Rey had some of the same qualities; there was no middle road with them. Both of them carried themselves much like John Thompson did, John looked like kid on the sideline acting like he had swagger that he had to legitimate claim to.

I mentioned Tic two posts prior.

My history with Tiger FB goes back to 1987 so I don't know anything about Dempsey. I agree we all wanted Porter to succeed.

(09-15-2014 08:48 AM)Tigeer Wrote:  I mentioned Tic two posts prior.
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You're 100% correct, I can't imagine why I missed it.

That was a terrible hire, especially considering the circumstances.

(09-14-2014 09:24 AM)baruna falls Wrote:  USF, to be honest is a mystery to me. Willie Taggert did very good at WKU, so I have no idea what is happening at USF right now. College Football more than any other sport imo, is dependent on the hiring of a good head coach to make things work. Maybe Taggert just needs more time, but USF certainly has more appeal than any other G5 Florida school except for UCF.

I know many of USF fans don't want to hear this never mind rival fans...but Taggart simply needs more time. He inherited a ship that was run aground from Holtz and there are really no short cuts he can take other than bring in a ton of JUCOs which is not the way to build a program.

Yet, somehow this doesn't feel like the typical complete renovation job. USF is not only dealing with a complete overhaul of the roster but it's doing this for the first time in program history, dealing with the after math of being one the three losers in realignment and coincides with our rival down the street doing well. USF and AAC fans need to make note that UCF was terrible during GOL first couple years but he never wavered in his approach and its obviously paying dividends. Taggart will be successful but it's not going to be the quick turnaround job everyone thought it was going to be and it won't happen until he finds his QB. Quinton Flowers could be BJ Daniels/Matt Grothe-esque as a playmaker but he is VERY, VERY RAW but it won't matter until the OL settles down.

(09-14-2014 07:23 PM)Bearcats#1 Wrote:  

(09-14-2014 01:06 PM)vabearcat Wrote:  [quote='bearcatfan' pid='11119889' dateline='1410712519']
UC - Dave Currey - in the 80's


1984 Cincinnati 2–9
1985 Cincinnati 5–6
1986 Cincinnati 5–6
1987 Cincinnati 4–7
1988 Cincinnati 3–8

19–36
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Yes, and in basketball Ed Badger and Tony Yates. 15 years between NCAA tourney appearances before Huggy Bear showed up to put the Bearcats back in the Final Four.

dead on

Program was in bad shape, Watson Brown and Gottfried were here short term. Any coach who had success well left, same for Tony Mason. UC hired Rick Minter over Jim Tressel in 93'. Totally agree about Badger.

(09-15-2014 10:06 AM)CyberBull Wrote:  

(09-14-2014 09:24 AM)baruna falls Wrote:  USF, to be honest is a mystery to me. Willie Taggert did very good at WKU, so I have no idea what is happening at USF right now. College Football more than any other sport imo, is dependent on the hiring of a good head coach to make things work. Maybe Taggert just needs more time, but USF certainly has more appeal than any other G5 Florida school except for UCF.

I know many of USF fans don't want to hear this never mind rival fans...but Taggart simply needs more time. He inherited a ship that was run aground from Holtz and there are really no short cuts he can take other than bring in a ton of JUCOs which is not the way to build a program.

Yet, somehow this doesn't feel like the typical complete renovation job. USF is not only dealing with a complete overhaul of the roster but it's doing this for the first time in program history, dealing with the after math of being one the three losers in realignment and coincides with our rival down the street doing well. USF and AAC fans need to make note that UCF was terrible during GOL first couple years but he never wavered in his approach and its obviously paying dividends. Taggart will be successful but it's not going to be the quick turnaround job everyone thought it was going to be and it won't happen until he finds his QB. Quinton Flowers could be BJ Daniels/Matt Grothe-esque as a playmaker but he is VERY, VERY RAW but it won't matter until the OL settles down.

I hope Taggert turns it around.

(09-15-2014 10:06 AM)CyberBull Wrote:  

(09-14-2014 09:24 AM)baruna falls Wrote:  USF, to be honest is a mystery to me. Willie Taggert did very good at WKU, so I have no idea what is happening at USF right now. College Football more than any other sport imo, is dependent on the hiring of a good head coach to make things work. Maybe Taggert just needs more time, but USF certainly has more appeal than any other G5 Florida school except for UCF.

I know many of USF fans don't want to hear this never mind rival fans...but Taggart simply needs more time. He inherited a ship that was run aground from Holtz and there are really no short cuts he can take other than bring in a ton of JUCOs which is not the way to build a program.

Yet, somehow this doesn't feel like the typical complete renovation job. USF is not only dealing with a complete overhaul of the roster but it's doing this for the first time in program history, dealing with the after math of being one the three losers in realignment and coincides with our rival down the street doing well. USF and AAC fans need to make note that UCF was terrible during GOL first couple years but he never wavered in his approach and its obviously paying dividends. Taggart will be successful but it's not going to be the quick turnaround job everyone thought it was going to be and it won't happen until he finds his QB. Quinton Flowers could be BJ Daniels/Matt Grothe-esque as a playmaker but he is VERY, VERY RAW but it won't matter until the OL settles down.

CB I don't want to be negative here. I honestly don't but, you've got to look at the game footage again. All the games. There is a pattern emerging that simply can't be denied.

The Coaching is a real issue. The schemes are not well developed, (I know they're young players). The Staff doesn't adjust well at all, (I know it's going to take time). There's poor clock management, (It can happen to anyone). The HC always looks like a Deer in headlights every game, (He's a young coach figuring it out).

I'm sorry but, I can honestly do better and I'm not a coach. I will not bother to post any more this season. I'm done going to games. I've already given my seats to my companies pool. If anyone want's to go from them, they can have them. I'm done.

Bobby Collins.

Ron Meyer could control the boosters. When he left, Collins was put in a tough spot and he floundered. His assistant, Henry Lee Parker, is the man that sent money to former player David Stanley in an SMU ENVELOPE! Think about the stupidity involved there.

John Thompson - Football
Ricky Stokes - Basketball

Not even close.

PP and his sidekick GDL. Good riddance.

Football - Larry Porter.
Ray Dempsey was bad too especially considering the other candidate at the time was Mack Brown.

Basketball - Tic Price.

My first two years as a fan were the Thompson years. I think that's why I had a hard time 'enjoying' the USM victory last year. Its amazing how one bad hire can kill a program, but we've bounced back under Holtz and especially with Ruff, and I think Tulsa and SMU will do the same. Its already happening with Tulane.

(09-14-2014 08:36 AM)8BitPirate Wrote:  Just wondering who you'd consider your teams biggest coaching hire FAIL. Basketball or football.

I know for ECU football it's He Who Shall Not Be Named that "coached" from 2003-2004 compiling and impress 3-20 record with epic nail biting wins over Army (x2) and Tulane.

Larry porter, by 10 miles......


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(09-14-2014 07:28 PM)shere khan Wrote:  

(09-14-2014 09:04 AM)MemphisTigerFreak Wrote:  Larry Porter. His 2 years set us back at least 4

Rey Dempsey. His one set us back 10

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That hire came down to Dempsey and Mack Brown. We chose Dempsey, ha.

(09-14-2014 08:25 PM)GLinPa Wrote:  Bobby Wallace at Temple. Also known as 8YV.

Add to that Ron Dickerson, Jerry Berndt, and I am sure I am forgetting (blocking out?) a couple others.

Football: Kim Helton, Dana Dimel, and Tony Mr. Continuity Levine.

Basketball: Alvin Brooks