(09-14-2014 09:09 AM)oldtiger Wrote:  

(09-14-2014 07:37 AM)ICB Wrote:  Oddly enough as much as the people from the AAC or Sunbelt still refuse to acknowledge the success we are having on the field, you can tell they respect it because they no longer use derogatory terms to describe us (for the most part) they actually refer to us as C-USA. Hard to belittle someone who keeps whoopin your tail!

I don't know how anyone can refuse to acknowledge CUSA's success this year. The results speak for themselves. I think that eventually budgets and investments in programs will make it difficult for some of the less funded CUSA programs to maintain this level, but even with smaller budgets the Florida programs have the built in advantage of having a seemingly unlimited pool of speed and talent in their back yard. I don't see how anyone could ignore the success that the conference is enjoying right now. Congrats on the really good season, you've surpassed most people's expectations.

as always...classy post Old Tiger...

(09-14-2014 11:20 PM)HerdZoned Wrote:  

(09-14-2014 09:32 PM)Galleyrat Wrote:  "Most of your fans". I am done. I loved this conference, and I enjoyed coming here and reading about it. I still felt loyalty even though ECU was not in it anymore. I have been rooting for all of you. Done. I am done.

There are 600 ECU fans on this board, and I am sick of being lumped in with SJ/the other three or four that talk down to cusa. Good luck to you.

Its not just SJ and 2-3 others. I have 23 ECWho fans on IGNORE. And for their trashing of Marshall and the conference I could never root for the Butt Pirates ever again.

Everyone at ECWho thought they should have got the nod over VA Tech in 1991 when the BE formed a football conference and that didn't happen. Most if not all have been bitter about it since. Even when you did make the BE it turns out its just CUSA1.0 with 2 less charter members and a few new members.

I love how ECWho talks academic smack. When until 2004 they also took NQers from everywhere. As a matter of fact in the 2001 GMAC bowl ECU had 16 of their 22 starters start out as NQers. The only reason Terry Holland started the "Only NQers from NC" was to hope to get noticed by the BE that "ECU was doing the right thing". That didn't help either.

I could care less that you are a good ECWho poster or not, the majority that stayed on the CUSA board after you got your glorious invite from the BE was nothing but asshats. And for that reason I care about ECWho as much as I do EMU.

Dowdy saying something/someone is stupid...

(09-14-2014 04:06 PM)pcm0103 Wrote:  

(09-14-2014 11:15 AM)Niner National Wrote:  

(09-14-2014 11:08 AM)Cali_Cat Wrote:  Hardly anyone knows or cares that C-USA even still exists!!!!

Same can be said for the AAC.

Nationwide, people know UConn and Cinci very well. Nobody knows much else about the rest of the teams.

I was talking about ECU with my coworkers last week (we live in NC) about the USC matchup. Every person in my office thought ECU was a garbage program and had no idea what conference they even played in. They were shocked I told them ECU routinely puts 40-50,000 people in their stadium on game days and usually puts a good product on the field.

And these were sports fans! One was a big Auburn fan, one is a HUGE South Carolina fan, and the other is a more casual Arizona State fan.

Completely clueless about ECU. You have to keep in mind that people that post on forums like this know so, so, so much more about college sports teams than people that don't.

Even Cinci is a relative unknown to younger people that weren't big sports fans when Cinci was ranked in the top 10 almost every year in basketball. If you aren't in the top 25 for basketball or football almost every year (or named after a state), most people know nothing about you.

Just curious....Do you work in Charlotte? Some of the things you say here just don't quite add up. This USC fan that you speak of, If he is a true "sports fan" like you say then I am shocked that he didn't know much about ECU. We have played them probably more that most of the D! schools in the area. As far as the Arizona fan, well that explains it all.

As far as them not knowing how many fans come to our games really does not matter. I don't think a die hard sports fans goes around looking at attendance other than those here on a message board.

With the teams we have beat over the years I find it very surprising that every person in your office thinks we are garbage unless the only coworkers you have are the 2 you mentioned.

As a HUGE Pirate fan I can tell you a lot of history about Pirate football way before my day of becoming a Pirate fan....your HUGE USC fan only has to look at the 1990's when ECU owned USC to see this has not been a one sided affair....HUGE bandwagon Superior fan or I will steal the expression of Walheel and call your fan a Walcock. I find the complete opposite; I travel quite a bit in the southeast and always "get y'all have a great program" when I wear my ECU shirts. I know they truly do not follow our program since I get those comments in years we do not have a great winning record they just remember those big "W"s we have had that got a lot of national attention.

(09-15-2014 08:34 AM)PirateJeff Wrote:  

(09-14-2014 04:06 PM)pcm0103 Wrote:  

(09-14-2014 11:15 AM)Niner National Wrote:  

(09-14-2014 11:08 AM)Cali_Cat Wrote:  Hardly anyone knows or cares that C-USA even still exists!!!!

Same can be said for the AAC.

Nationwide, people know UConn and Cinci very well. Nobody knows much else about the rest of the teams.

I was talking about ECU with my coworkers last week (we live in NC) about the USC matchup. Every person in my office thought ECU was a garbage program and had no idea what conference they even played in. They were shocked I told them ECU routinely puts 40-50,000 people in their stadium on game days and usually puts a good product on the field.

And these were sports fans! One was a big Auburn fan, one is a HUGE South Carolina fan, and the other is a more casual Arizona State fan.

Completely clueless about ECU. You have to keep in mind that people that post on forums like this know so, so, so much more about college sports teams than people that don't.

Even Cinci is a relative unknown to younger people that weren't big sports fans when Cinci was ranked in the top 10 almost every year in basketball. If you aren't in the top 25 for basketball or football almost every year (or named after a state), most people know nothing about you.

Just curious....Do you work in Charlotte? Some of the things you say here just don't quite add up. This USC fan that you speak of, If he is a true "sports fan" like you say then I am shocked that he didn't know much about ECU. We have played them probably more that most of the D! schools in the area. As far as the Arizona fan, well that explains it all.

As far as them not knowing how many fans come to our games really does not matter. I don't think a die hard sports fans goes around looking at attendance other than those here on a message board.

With the teams we have beat over the years I find it very surprising that every person in your office thinks we are garbage unless the only coworkers you have are the 2 you mentioned.

As a HUGE Pirate fan I can tell you a lot of history about Pirate football way before my day of becoming a Pirate fan....your HUGE USC fan only has to look at the 1990's when ECU owned USC to see this has not been a one sided affair....HUGE bandwagon Superior fan or I will steal the expression of Walheel and call your fan a Walcock. I find the complete opposite; I travel quite a bit in the southeast and always "get y'all have a great program" when I wear my ECU shirts. I know they truly do not follow our program since I get those comments in years we do not have a great winning record they just remember those big "W"s we have had that got a lot of national attention.

Congrats on the Va Tech win. I was back home in eastern NC this past weekend and watched the game with a couple of NC State fans. A couple of those State fans said that ECU was the best team in the state. Keep it up.

ECU has always and, in my mind, will always be a consistently solid program. However, there are some posters who come over here and compliment us on what a great season CUSA is having and then out of the other side of their mouth bash us on their board. I won't mention any names, but let's just have one standard, shall we?

BTW, it certainly is not just ECU fans...There are fans from every conference that do it... but there are some AAC, CUSA, and Sunbelt posters who are just plain out of their mind.

The VA Tech win was a high quality win (we hope)...Hopefully Tech will vie for their division and bring up your sos

Remember when they were using the term G4 to seperate themselves from the rest of us?

I wouldn't ever consider using it, because it's ridiculously stupid and I cringed seeing people use it; but it might be more approriate for C-USA to use.

(09-16-2014 10:38 AM)MUsince96 Wrote:  Remember when they were using the term G4 to seperate themselves from the rest of us?

I wouldn't ever consider using it, because it's ridiculously stupid and I cringed seeing people use it; but it might be more approriate for C-USA to use.

Except CUSA hasn't shown they are capabable of being a "power" conference, losing every game against a "power" conference. Before you say anything I have never referred to the American as a "power" conference.

(09-16-2014 09:56 PM)DowdyPirate Wrote:  

(09-16-2014 10:38 AM)MUsince96 Wrote:  Remember when they were using the term G4 to seperate themselves from the rest of us?

I wouldn't ever consider using it, because it's ridiculously stupid and I cringed seeing people use it; but it might be more approriate for C-USA to use.

Except CUSA hasn't shown they are capabable of being a "power" conference, losing every game against a "power" conference. Before you say anything I have never referred to the American as a "power" conference.

If this is your criteria, you have also not had a team beat anyone in this conference. Head to head is more indicative of actual talent separation. In actual competition, this conference beats yours. Like your conference, not all of our teams have played Power 5 out of conference. So far, the ones who have played AAC schools have destroyed them.

(09-16-2014 10:11 PM)WEARE Wrote:  

(09-16-2014 09:56 PM)DowdyPirate Wrote:  

(09-16-2014 10:38 AM)MUsince96 Wrote:  Remember when they were using the term G4 to seperate themselves from the rest of us?

I wouldn't ever consider using it, because it's ridiculously stupid and I cringed seeing people use it; but it might be more approriate for C-USA to use.

Except CUSA hasn't shown they are capabable of being a "power" conference, losing every game against a "power" conference. Before you say anything I have never referred to the American as a "power" conference.

If this is your criteria, you have also not had a team beat anyone in this conference. Head to head is more indicative of actual talent separation. In actual competition, this conference beats yours. Like your conference, not all of our teams have played Power 5 out of conference. So far, the ones who have played AAC schools have destroyed them.

Works both ways not all of our teams have played CUSA schools. We are all in the same boat. I'm not going to go through and look , but haven't you played at least 8 games against the "P5".

Your (arguably) best team was able to beat Virginia Tech. Our best team doesn't have a P5 on the schedule this year. Vanderbilt won't count for anything at the end of the year. You guys are hanging your hat on a single win by a single team. We're hanging ours by going 11-0 vs the other G5. That is a total conference effort, not just ECU beating Virginia Tech.

edit: one thing I will give you is Cincinatti. Their weird schedule has only allowed them to play 1 game this year and they are most likely a very good team. If they had played 3 games so far the AAC's stats would look better right now.

(09-16-2014 10:42 PM)DowdyPirate Wrote:  

(09-16-2014 10:11 PM)WEARE Wrote:  

(09-16-2014 09:56 PM)DowdyPirate Wrote:  

(09-16-2014 10:38 AM)MUsince96 Wrote:  Remember when they were using the term G4 to seperate themselves from the rest of us?

I wouldn't ever consider using it, because it's ridiculously stupid and I cringed seeing people use it; but it might be more approriate for C-USA to use.

Except CUSA hasn't shown they are capabable of being a "power" conference, losing every game against a "power" conference. Before you say anything I have never referred to the American as a "power" conference.

If this is your criteria, you have also not had a team beat anyone in this conference. Head to head is more indicative of actual talent separation. In actual competition, this conference beats yours. Like your conference, not all of our teams have played Power 5 out of conference. So far, the ones who have played AAC schools have destroyed them.

Works both ways not all of our teams have played CUSA schools. We are all in the same boat. I'm not going to go through and look , but haven't you played at least 8 games against the "P5".

Have the superior AAC beat CUSA yet?

And I've already posted the actual ratings of teams who played. Similarily rated teams played each other from the AAC/CUSA and the CUSA won by an average of 29 points a game. I don't understand how people keep arguing with that. There is nothing else anyone can go off of until the year is over to find out how teams did overall to gauge how good they are so the whole argument is sort of pointless.

(09-16-2014 10:42 PM)DowdyPirate Wrote:  

(09-16-2014 10:11 PM)WEARE Wrote:  

(09-16-2014 09:56 PM)DowdyPirate Wrote:  

(09-16-2014 10:38 AM)MUsince96 Wrote:  Remember when they were using the term G4 to seperate themselves from the rest of us?

I wouldn't ever consider using it, because it's ridiculously stupid and I cringed seeing people use it; but it might be more approriate for C-USA to use.

Except CUSA hasn't shown they are capabable of being a "power" conference, losing every game against a "power" conference. Before you say anything I have never referred to the American as a "power" conference.

If this is your criteria, you have also not had a team beat anyone in this conference. Head to head is more indicative of actual talent separation. In actual competition, this conference beats yours. Like your conference, not all of our teams have played Power 5 out of conference. So far, the ones who have played AAC schools have destroyed them.

Works both ways not all of our teams have played CUSA schools. We are all in the same boat. I'm not going to go through and look , but haven't you played at least 8 games against the "P5".

I agree. It works both ways (hence, the if this your criteria comment...), but you are on the CUSA board touting a P5 win makes your conference superior. Head to head matchups tell an entirely different story. As a whole, this conference has proven it is stronger than the AAC. Not liking the results will not change the results.

Vanderbilt doesn't count as a P5 win.

(09-16-2014 10:58 PM)Shrack Wrote:  And I've already posted the actual ratings of teams who played. Similarily rated teams played each other from the AAC/CUSA and the CUSA won by an average of 29 points a game. I don't understand how people keep arguing with that. There is nothing else anyone can go off of until the year is over to find out how teams did overall to gauge how good they are so the whole argument is sort of pointless.

Read those statements. If there was an average 29 point difference in the games---how similar could they really be? Sounds like the ratings were wrong.

The coach of one of those AAC teams has already been canned. Who usually cans a coach in mid season---good teams or bad teams? Tulsa was terrible last year and they are still terrible. SMU literally has the lowest performing offense in the entire FBS (#125). Houston is the only team I'm not sure about. They aren't going to win the AAC---but they might manage to eek out a bowl bid---if they improve their currently awful offense (ranked #103 out of 125). That said, I wouldn't be shocked if Houston went winless the rest of the season---I have no idea what to expect from that team. All I know is the Houston defense is pretty good---but the offense couldn't score a in a Vegas cat house. They are the complete and total opposite of any Houston team I've ever followed.

Like I said before, CUSA has done a good job of beating the teams that line up on the other side of the ball. They have taken care of business and that's all they can do. Whether those wins really mean anything wont be clear until the season is further along. At this juncture, it looks like they knocked off AAC tomato cans. That said, tomato cans or not, 11-0 aint bad.

(09-14-2014 04:39 PM)pcm0103 Wrote:  

(09-14-2014 04:28 PM)THUNDERGround Wrote:  

(09-14-2014 04:18 PM)jn4theHERD Wrote:  

(09-14-2014 04:08 PM)pcm0103 Wrote:  

(09-14-2014 03:58 PM)goherd24herdfans Wrote:  You know you really own someone when the grammar smack comes out on a message board..... douches.

Oh. 59-28

Own?
I wish we played you guys this year!

I wish we did too!

So let's get this straight...Only ECU can improve from last year and Marshall can't??? That's a pretty stupid argument.

Ok genius. Where did i say that ECU improved and Marshall didn't. Stop putting words in my post that I did not say. The only thing I said was I wish we played you guys this year. This is how senseless smack get started.

So yea go it straight and stop trying to make it into a stupid argument!

Just another person that thinks a soft schedule means a soft team. Who we play has nothing to do with how good we are. I think, if we played ECU, it would be close in Greenville with the Pirates most likely winning. I think in Huntington we would crush ECU again. And on a neutral field I think it's close with us winning. Our defense knows Carden. They know how to rattle him. He looked lost against us last year. ECU's homefield advantage is also very strong and our road prowess not so much. But in a bowl (neutral) I'd take us every time. We always play above our paygrade in bowls.

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(09-17-2014 12:31 AM)MUther Wrote:  

(09-14-2014 04:39 PM)pcm0103 Wrote:  

(09-14-2014 04:28 PM)THUNDERGround Wrote:  

(09-14-2014 04:18 PM)jn4theHERD Wrote:  

(09-14-2014 04:08 PM)pcm0103 Wrote:  Own?
I wish we played you guys this year!

I wish we did too!

So let's get this straight...Only ECU can improve from last year and Marshall can't??? That's a pretty stupid argument.

Ok genius. Where did i say that ECU improved and Marshall didn't. Stop putting words in my post that I did not say. The only thing I said was I wish we played you guys this year. This is how senseless smack get started.

So yea go it straight and stop trying to make it into a stupid argument!

Just another person that thinks a soft schedule means a soft team. Who we play has nothing to do with how good we are. I think, if we played ECU, it would be close in Greenville with the Pirates most likely winning. I think in Huntington we would crush ECU again. And on a neutral field I think it's close with us winning. Our defense knows Carden. They know how to rattle him. He looked lost against us last year. ECU's homefield advantage is also very strong and our road prowess not so much. But in a bowl (neutral) I'd take us every time. We always play above our paygrade in bowls.

a soft schedule doesnt mean you're a soft team...but it sure the cant prove you have a strong one. thats the problem.

(09-14-2014 11:08 AM)Cali_Cat Wrote:  Hardly anyone knows or cares that C-USA even still exists!!!!

Except you, who are here!

(09-17-2014 12:31 AM)MUther Wrote:  

(09-14-2014 04:39 PM)pcm0103 Wrote:  

(09-14-2014 04:28 PM)THUNDERGround Wrote:  

(09-14-2014 04:18 PM)jn4theHERD Wrote:  

(09-14-2014 04:08 PM)pcm0103 Wrote:  Own?
I wish we played you guys this year!

I wish we did too!

So let's get this straight...Only ECU can improve from last year and Marshall can't??? That's a pretty stupid argument.

Ok genius. Where did i say that ECU improved and Marshall didn't. Stop putting words in my post that I did not say. The only thing I said was I wish we played you guys this year. This is how senseless smack get started.

So yea go it straight and stop trying to make it into a stupid argument!

Just another person that thinks a soft schedule means a soft team. Who we play has nothing to do with how good we are. I think, if we played ECU, it would be close in Greenville with the Pirates most likely winning. I think in Huntington we would crush ECU again. And on a neutral field I think it's close with us winning. Our defense knows Carden. They know how to rattle him. He looked lost against us last year. ECU's homefield advantage is also very strong and our road prowess not so much. But in a bowl (neutral) I'd take us every time. We always play above our paygrade in bowls.

Seriously! Do you guys read my post and see something different? How did you even remotely read my post and assume I was thinking that you have a soft schedule or a soft team. Geesh you guys are really paranoid! As far as what you think the results would be if we played again, remember we have improved also. Just because you "crushed" us last year in Huntington does not mean you will "crush" us again. We adapt and learn from our mistakes. Neutral fields does not make a difference. We have beat plenty of teams on a neutral field so to say that you would beat us there is a little homerish on your part. VA Tech defense knew Carden too and you saw how that worked out, and please don't tell me your defense is better or on par with theirs. Like I said before don't let last years game cloud your judgment. You may be setting yourself up for a letdown.