I got a voter registration card in the mail today, for my father. He has never lived in North Carolina and the only connection to North Carolina other than visiting me was once filling out a "VIC" card at Harris Teeter using my address. I looked at the application, it does not require a North Carolina Driver's license to register by mail, nor does it require a SSN. Not sure how ILLEGALS would be prevented from registering to vote and voting for democrats.

(09-13-2014 08:01 PM)THE NC Herd Fan Wrote:  I got a voter registration card in the mail today, for my father. He has never lived in North Carolina and the only connection to North Carolina other than visiting me was once filling out a "VIC" card at Harris Teeter using my address. I looked at the application, it does not require a North Carolina Driver's license to register by mail, nor does it require a SSN. Not sure how ILLEGALS would be prevented from registering to vote and voting for democrats.

They are not being prevented and they are voting.

Why not just put a photo on the voter registration? With today's technology, we should be able to do that fairly easily. And have taxes fund the cost for everyone. Not like it's going to break any budgets.

And Fitbud's response is?

(09-13-2014 08:01 PM)THE NC Herd Fan Wrote:  I got a voter registration card in the mail today, for my father. He has never lived in North Carolina and the only connection to North Carolina other than visiting me was once filling out a "VIC" card at Harris Teeter using my address. I looked at the application, it does not require a North Carolina Driver's license to register by mail, nor does it require a SSN. Not sure how ILLEGALS would be prevented from registering to vote and voting for democrats.

Why would "illegals" even want to vote?

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(09-13-2014 08:33 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(09-13-2014 08:01 PM)THE NC Herd Fan Wrote:  I got a voter registration card in the mail today, for my father. He has never lived in North Carolina and the only connection to North Carolina other than visiting me was once filling out a "VIC" card at Harris Teeter using my address. I looked at the application, it does not require a North Carolina Driver's license to register by mail, nor does it require a SSN. Not sure how ILLEGALS would be prevented from registering to vote and voting for democrats.

Why would "illegals" even want to vote?

Because it pays well?

(09-13-2014 08:33 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(09-13-2014 08:01 PM)THE NC Herd Fan Wrote:  I got a voter registration card in the mail today, for my father. He has never lived in North Carolina and the only connection to North Carolina other than visiting me was once filling out a "VIC" card at Harris Teeter using my address. I looked at the application, it does not require a North Carolina Driver's license to register by mail, nor does it require a SSN. Not sure how ILLEGALS would be prevented from registering to vote and voting for democrats.

Why would "illegals" even want to vote?

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Because they can get politicians in place who want to set up sanctuary cities and give out state tuition to illegals.

(09-13-2014 08:34 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  

(09-13-2014 08:33 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(09-13-2014 08:01 PM)THE NC Herd Fan Wrote:  I got a voter registration card in the mail today, for my father. He has never lived in North Carolina and the only connection to North Carolina other than visiting me was once filling out a "VIC" card at Harris Teeter using my address. I looked at the application, it does not require a North Carolina Driver's license to register by mail, nor does it require a SSN. Not sure how ILLEGALS would be prevented from registering to vote and voting for democrats.

Why would "illegals" even want to vote?

Because it pays well?

Winner, Winner. Chicken Dinner.

(09-13-2014 11:48 PM)blah Wrote:  

(09-13-2014 08:34 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  

(09-13-2014 08:33 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(09-13-2014 08:01 PM)THE NC Herd Fan Wrote:  I got a voter registration card in the mail today, for my father. He has never lived in North Carolina and the only connection to North Carolina other than visiting me was once filling out a "VIC" card at Harris Teeter using my address. I looked at the application, it does not require a North Carolina Driver's license to register by mail, nor does it require a SSN. Not sure how ILLEGALS would be prevented from registering to vote and voting for democrats.

Why would "illegals" even want to vote?

Because it pays well?

Winner, Winner. Chicken Dinner.

That chick is fascinating, I can't stop watching her and wondering...

(09-13-2014 08:01 PM)THE NC Herd Fan Wrote:  I got a voter registration card in the mail today, for my father. He has never lived in North Carolina and the only connection to North Carolina other than visiting me was once filling out a "VIC" card at Harris Teeter using my address. I looked at the application, it does not require a North Carolina Driver's license to register by mail, nor does it require a SSN. Not sure how ILLEGALS would be prevented from registering to vote and voting for democrats.

Why don't you call the county BodE and ask them why you got it. It is a felony to illegally register and/or vote. That tends to discourage illegal registration and voting. Voter impersonation is rare because it is ineffective and carries a stiff penalty. It also doesn't pay well. Legal voters rounded up and carried to the polls were only getting a 12 pack split between 3-4 last I noticed. Even then there isn't any certainty the vote the way you request! And illegals want to stay under the radar, not draw attention to themselves so they are definitely not going to show up to try and slip a vote in. You have to be realistic about this sort of thing people.


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(09-13-2014 08:10 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  Why not just put a photo on the voter registration? With today's technology, we should be able to do that fairly easily. And have taxes fund the cost for everyone. Not like it's going to break any budgets.

State and local funding for county BofE is extremely low, it's bare bones and that explains a lot about the errors made regarding names, addresses, deceased remaining on the list etc. they are using obsolete technology and are understaffed. They don't have the $$$ to do what is already required, much less take on added requirements.


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(09-13-2014 08:33 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(09-13-2014 08:01 PM)THE NC Herd Fan Wrote:  I got a voter registration card in the mail today, for my father. He has never lived in North Carolina and the only connection to North Carolina other than visiting me was once filling out a "VIC" card at Harris Teeter using my address. I looked at the application, it does not require a North Carolina Driver's license to register by mail, nor does it require a SSN. Not sure how ILLEGALS would be prevented from registering to vote and voting for democrats.

Why would "illegals" even want to vote?

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Come on

(09-13-2014 08:33 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  Why would "illegals" even want to vote?

For the sake of clarity here are the requirements to register and vote in NC.

Must be a U.S. citizen.
Must be a resident of the county, and prior to voting in an election, must have resided at his or her residential address for at least 30 days prior to the date of the election.
Must be at least 18 years old or will be 18 by the date of the next general election.
Must not be serving a sentence for a felony conviction (including probation or on parole). If previously convicted of a felony, the person’s citizenship rights must be restored. Citizenship and voting rights are automatically restored upon completion of the sentence. No special document is needed.
Must rescind any previous registration in another county or state.

To register, a person who meets the voting qualifications must sign and complete a voter registration application. When completing the application, applicants must provide their full name, residential address, date of birth, and citizenship status. In addition, the application must be signed. Failure to complete a required field on the form will delay the processing of the application. After completion, the application should be mailed to the board of elections in the county in which the applicant resides. If the application is for new registration in a county, the form must be submitted prior to the voter registration deadline. The board of elections must receive the original signed application.

If the application is complete and the person is qualified to vote, the county board of elections will mail a voter registration card to the applicant to provide notice of the registration. This mailing is non-forwardable and also serves to verify the applicant’s address. If a voter card is returned by the postal service as undeliverable, then a second mailing will be sent to the voter. In the event that that second mailing is also returned as undeliverable, then the applicant’s voter registration may subsequently be denied.

You are required to provide your North Carolina drivers license number if you have one. If you don't have a drivers license, you can provide the last four digits of your Social Security number.

If you do not have either of these, you may include with the voter registration form a copy of identification that shows your name and address.

(09-13-2014 08:01 PM)THE NC Herd Fan Wrote:  I got a voter registration card in the mail today, for my father. He has never lived in North Carolina and the only connection to North Carolina other than visiting me was once filling out a "VIC" card at Harris Teeter using my address. I looked at the application, it does not require a North Carolina Driver's license to register by mail, nor does it require a SSN. Not sure how ILLEGALS would be prevented from registering to vote and voting for democrats.

It requires the driver's license number if you have a driver's license. If you don't it requires the last four digits of your social security number. If you have neither you have to provide an alternate approved form of identification. It is in section 3 of the application. On the second page there is this.

Quote:Voter Identification (ID) Requirements:
Help America Vote Act ID Requirements -- Under federal and state law, if
you are registering and cannot provide a valid ID number in Section 3,
you should include with this application a copy of one of the documents
below:
• A current and valid photo ID.
• A current utility bill, bank statement, government check,
paycheck, or other government document that shows your
name and address.
If you do not provide a valid ID number on your application or submit a
copy of one of the documents noted above, you must show ID the first
time you vote.

Photo ID Requirements -- Effective January 1, 2016, North Carolina
voters will need to show a photo ID when voting in person. Acceptable
types of photo ID for purposes of voting are:
• Unexpired North Carolina drivers license, learners’ permit,
provisional license, or non-operators identification card.
• Unexpired United States passport.
• United States military identification card.
• Veterans Identification Card.
• Tribal enrollment card issued by a federally or N.C. recognized
tribe.
• Unexpired out-of-state drivers license or non-operators ID card
(may only show if you initially register within 90 days of
election day).
Voters who have a religious objection to being photographed must sign a
declaration stating this objection before an election official at least 25
days before the date of an election. Contact your county board of elections
for more details on ID requirements in North Carolina.

You must not have read the form you got in the mail very well.

(09-15-2014 07:50 PM)dawgitall Wrote:  

(09-13-2014 08:01 PM)THE NC Herd Fan Wrote:  I got a voter registration card in the mail today, for my father. He has never lived in North Carolina and the only connection to North Carolina other than visiting me was once filling out a "VIC" card at Harris Teeter using my address. I looked at the application, it does not require a North Carolina Driver's license to register by mail, nor does it require a SSN. Not sure how ILLEGALS would be prevented from registering to vote and voting for democrats.

It requires the driver's license number if you have a driver's license. If you don't it requires the last four digits of your social security number. If you have neither you have to provide an alternate approved form of identification. It is in section 3 of the application. On the second page there is this.

Quote:Voter Identification (ID) Requirements:
Help America Vote Act ID Requirements -- Under federal and state law, if
you are registering and cannot provide a valid ID number in Section 3,
you should include with this application a copy of one of the documents
below:
• A current and valid photo ID.
• A current utility bill, bank statement, government check,
paycheck, or other government document that shows your
name and address.
If you do not provide a valid ID number on your application or submit a
copy of one of the documents noted above, you must show ID the first
time you vote.

Photo ID Requirements -- Effective January 1, 2016, North Carolina
voters will need to show a photo ID when voting in person. Acceptable
types of photo ID for purposes of voting are:
• Unexpired North Carolina drivers license, learners’ permit,
provisional license, or non-operators identification card.
• Unexpired United States passport.
• United States military identification card.
• Veterans Identification Card.
• Tribal enrollment card issued by a federally or N.C. recognized
tribe.
• Unexpired out-of-state drivers license or non-operators ID card
(may only show if you initially register within 90 days of
election day).
Voters who have a religious objection to being photographed must sign a
declaration stating this objection before an election official at least 25
days before the date of an election. Contact your county board of elections
for more details on ID requirements in North Carolina.

You must not have read the form you got in the mail very well.

I just scanned it cause what the hell will I do with it, it's for my father who isn't an NC resident and obviously isn't eligible to vote in NC. Still a big concern, WHY was his name on a mailing list to register by mail to vote when he's never lived in NC.

Evidently NC is one of the easier states to obtain a drivers license as well because the majority of the time we dealt with Hispanic immigrants they gave us a NC DL and/or their vehicle was registered in NC.

(09-15-2014 08:16 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  Evidently NC is one of the easier states to obtain a drivers license as well because the majority of the time we dealt with Hispanic immigrants they gave us a NC DL and/or their vehicle was registered in NC.

Careful NC has one of the most aggressive Nexus laws when it comes to Personal Income tax. They consider you a resident for tax purposes if:

1) Have a car titled in NC
2) Have an NC driver's license
3) Own a 2nd home in NC
4) Work in NC but live in another state (SC, VA, TN) where in theory you could maintain your residence and easily commute into NC, but they don't care.


There's a whole bunch of other NC residency rules I can't recall them all, but the goal of NC Tax laws is to tax you.

(09-15-2014 08:25 PM)THE NC Herd Fan Wrote:  

(09-15-2014 08:16 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  Evidently NC is one of the easier states to obtain a drivers license as well because the majority of the time we dealt with Hispanic immigrants they gave us a NC DL and/or their vehicle was registered in NC.

Careful NC has one of the most aggressive Nexus laws when it comes to Personal Income tax. They consider you a resident for tax purposes if:

1) Have a car titled in NC
2) Have an NC driver's license
3) Own a 2nd home in NC
4) Work in NC but live in another state (SC, VA, TN) where in theory you could maintain your residence and easily commute into NC, but they don't care.


There's a whole bunch of other NC residency rules I can't recall them all, but the goal of NC Tax laws is to tax you.

I'm just making a SWAG as I never did the actual percentage, but I'd put it at probably an easy 70-75% of the Hispanics we would run calls on and need ID for either patient care forms or fire reports would have a NC DL, and well over half the vehicles would have NC tags.

(09-15-2014 08:10 PM)THE NC Herd Fan Wrote:  

(09-15-2014 07:50 PM)dawgitall Wrote:  

(09-13-2014 08:01 PM)THE NC Herd Fan Wrote:  I got a voter registration card in the mail today, for my father. He has never lived in North Carolina and the only connection to North Carolina other than visiting me was once filling out a "VIC" card at Harris Teeter using my address. I looked at the application, it does not require a North Carolina Driver's license to register by mail, nor does it require a SSN. Not sure how ILLEGALS would be prevented from registering to vote and voting for democrats.

It requires the driver's license number if you have a driver's license. If you don't it requires the last four digits of your social security number. If you have neither you have to provide an alternate approved form of identification. It is in section 3 of the application. On the second page there is this.

Quote:Voter Identification (ID) Requirements:
Help America Vote Act ID Requirements -- Under federal and state law, if
you are registering and cannot provide a valid ID number in Section 3,
you should include with this application a copy of one of the documents
below:
• A current and valid photo ID.
• A current utility bill, bank statement, government check,
paycheck, or other government document that shows your
name and address.
If you do not provide a valid ID number on your application or submit a
copy of one of the documents noted above, you must show ID the first
time you vote.

Photo ID Requirements -- Effective January 1, 2016, North Carolina
voters will need to show a photo ID when voting in person. Acceptable
types of photo ID for purposes of voting are:
• Unexpired North Carolina drivers license, learners’ permit,
provisional license, or non-operators identification card.
• Unexpired United States passport.
• United States military identification card.
• Veterans Identification Card.
• Tribal enrollment card issued by a federally or N.C. recognized
tribe.
• Unexpired out-of-state drivers license or non-operators ID card
(may only show if you initially register within 90 days of
election day).
Voters who have a religious objection to being photographed must sign a
declaration stating this objection before an election official at least 25
days before the date of an election. Contact your county board of elections
for more details on ID requirements in North Carolina.

You must not have read the form you got in the mail very well.

I just scanned it cause what the hell will I do with it, it's for my father who isn't an NC resident and obviously isn't eligible to vote in NC. Still a big concern, WHY was his name on a mailing list to register by mail to vote when he's never lived in NC.

It is hard to say, but probably someone with a similar name requested an app and somehow addresses got crossed up. But it is just an application. You can print one from online. If you aren't legally eligible to register and try to vote it is a felony. That is a good reason not to do it. I know someone that handled the forms in an illegal manner, they weren't in eligible voters, just not submitted properly to the B of E and she lost a lot, felony conviction, forced to resign elected office, can't hold office again, probation and of course shame and ridicule. It is serious business.


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