We all know what happened to the B1G last week. While I'm not of the opinion that the B1G is toast regarding the Playoff I do think they took a serious blow to their chances. Several B1G P5 matchups last Sat. but the upset that hurt the B1G the most was VT beating Ohio St. That one game, imo, hurt the B1G the most and did impact the Playoffs. It is now out of the B1G hands as to if they get a team in the Playoffs. That one loss hurt the conference more than it hurt the team. They need help.

Looking at this weeks slate of games, The Big 12 has a number of P5 matchups. if I had to chose 1 game that could impact the Playoffs I would pick the Tenn/Oklahoma game. If Oklahoma gets upset, It would take the decision out of the Big 12's hands as to whether or not one of their teams makes the Playoffs. Their loss would hurt the conference as much or more than their own chances to make the Playoff. Baylor could run the table but their sos would take a huge blow.

I'm sure there are other games like this out there. Chime in with your reasoning.

(09-09-2014 01:33 PM)Dasville Wrote:  We all know what happened to the B1G last week. While I'm not of the opinion that the B1G is toast regarding the Playoff I do think they took a serious blow to their chances. Several B1G P5 matchups last Sat. but the upset that hurt the B1G the most was VT beating Ohio St. That one game, imo, hurt the B1G the most and did impact the Playoffs. It is now out of the B1G hands as to if they get a team in the Playoffs. That one loss hurt the conference more than it hurt the team. They need help.

Looking at this weeks slate of games, The Big 12 has a number of P5 matchups. if I had to chose 1 game that could impact the Playoffs I would pick the Tenn/Oklahoma game. If Oklahoma gets upset, It would take the decision out of the Big 12's hands as to whether or not one of their teams makes the Playoffs. Their loss would hurt the conference as much or more than their own chances to make the Playoff. Baylor could run the table but their sos would take a huge blow.

I'm sure there are other games like this out there. Chime in with your reasoning.

I think OU will lose at least one or maybe two games. Baylor has a banged up QB so I can see it losing one or two games as well....

I'll bite and say both the OSU and Michigan losses virtually forces Nebraska to run undefeated, or for Michigan State and Wisconsin to run the table from opposite ends of the conference. It's not that other conferences might not pick up a bad loss here and there, but you had the likely Big Ten front-runner losing to an ACC club that might not run the table in that conference, while Michigan, probably the Big Ten's fourth or fifth best team, got their clocks cleaned by another team that possesses some ACC connections.

Essentially, the ACC and Notre Dame holds a lot over the Big Ten, while the PAC and SEC have some sway now, too. The Big Ten now must watch what unfolds in the ACC...that is a pretty big deal.

Losses in the conference, I think, won't help a Big Ten school over some of these other teams in other conferences. These head-to-head's are killer, just like they tend to be in college basketball and the seeding process.

theres A LOT of season left to play....

(09-09-2014 02:21 PM)EvilVodka Wrote:  theres A LOT of season left to play....

Yes indeed

Penn St is 2-0,

ECU over VT would be a ringer.

(09-09-2014 02:21 PM)EvilVodka Wrote:  theres A LOT of season left to play....

there is- but after this weekend a lot of the OOC play is done with. 6/10 Big 12 schools done with OOC play after this weekend- with the other 4 being 2/3 done. 5/12 Big 12 schools done with OOC play after this weekend- with the other 7 being 2/3 done with OOC play.

Only 3 schools after this weekend aren't 1/2 way done with OOC play- Florida, Georgia, and South Carolina. Compare to 41 that are down to only 1 OOC game left after this weekend.

UCLA vs. Texas. Yes, Texas looked awful against BYU but UCLA hasn't looked impressive in their two wins. I could see the Longhorns bouncing back Saturday.

There is plenty of season left but OSU can not afford another loss. To be considered for the playoff (IMO) they must win-out, including the B1G championship. VT must also continue to win and hopefully finish in the top 10. The loss to VT will look worse if VT doesn't finish the season strong.

(09-09-2014 02:37 PM)stever20 Wrote:  Only 3 schools after this weekend aren't 1/2 way done with OOC play- Florida, Georgia, and South Carolina. Compare to 41 that are down to only 1 OOC game left after this weekend.

Louisville will still have 3 OOC games left after this weekend.

(09-09-2014 03:02 PM)adcorbett Wrote:  

(09-09-2014 02:37 PM)stever20 Wrote:  Only 3 schools after this weekend aren't 1/2 way done with OOC play- Florida, Georgia, and South Carolina. Compare to 41 that are down to only 1 OOC game left after this weekend.

Louisville will still have 3 OOC games left after this weekend.

Cincy hasn't even played a game yet. Oh, you only talking about the P5!!! - schizle

I didn't say Louisville was the only one not listed. Just one I knew of. But generally you would look at teams who play Notre Dame, or have a late season OOC matchup, and that's where you will find those.

Why the late start for Cincy?

(09-09-2014 03:02 PM)adcorbett Wrote:  

(09-09-2014 02:37 PM)stever20 Wrote:  Only 3 schools after this weekend aren't 1/2 way done with OOC play- Florida, Georgia, and South Carolina. Compare to 41 that are down to only 1 OOC game left after this weekend.

Louisville will still have 3 OOC games left after this weekend.

ahh yes, you are right... but still that leaves only 4 that aren't 1/2 way-compared to 41 to have only 1 left and 11 that are done already.

to put in another context- there are 234 P5 slots not including ND OOC. 108 are played already. 46%. 43 go on Saturday- so up to 151 or 64.5%. 34 next weekend. After next weekend only 49 slots left.

(09-09-2014 03:08 PM)adcorbett Wrote:  I didn't say Louisville was the only one not listed. Just one I knew of. But generally you would look at teams who play Notre Dame, or have a late season OOC matchup, and that's where you will find those.

Why the late start for Cincy?

Dropped Stony Brook for Miami and the AAC wouldn't work with their schedule to work in a conference gam the first few weeks of the season.... that's my understanding.

(09-09-2014 02:44 PM)Hokie4Skins Wrote:  UCLA vs. Texas. Yes, Texas looked awful against BYU but UCLA hasn't looked impressive in their two wins. I could see the Longhorns bouncing back Saturday.

Yep!

If Texas wins, it could impact the conference Playoff spot for the Pac12. A Texas win would have more impact on the PAC 12 then it would the Big 12.

(09-09-2014 03:25 PM)Dasville Wrote:  

(09-09-2014 02:44 PM)Hokie4Skins Wrote:  UCLA vs. Texas. Yes, Texas looked awful against BYU but UCLA hasn't looked impressive in their two wins. I could see the Longhorns bouncing back Saturday.

Yep!

If Texas wins, it could impact the conference Playoff spot for the Pac12. A Texas win would have more impact on the PAC 12 then it would the Big 12.

A Texas win would impact UCLA- but realistically with Oregon and USC- either one of those finish 12-1- they are in the playoffs pretty much no matter what. Probably could throw Stanford in that mix as well...

(09-09-2014 03:26 PM)stever20 Wrote:  

(09-09-2014 03:25 PM)Dasville Wrote:  

(09-09-2014 02:44 PM)Hokie4Skins Wrote:  UCLA vs. Texas. Yes, Texas looked awful against BYU but UCLA hasn't looked impressive in their two wins. I could see the Longhorns bouncing back Saturday.

Yep!

If Texas wins, it could impact the conference Playoff spot for the Pac12. A Texas win would have more impact on the PAC 12 then it would the Big 12.

A Texas win would impact UCLA- but realistically with Oregon and USC- either one of those finish 12-1- they are in the playoffs pretty much no matter what. Probably could throw Stanford in that mix as well...

So the PAC 12 has the least to lose for the rest of the season based on their scheduling?

(09-09-2014 03:36 PM)Dasville Wrote:  

(09-09-2014 03:26 PM)stever20 Wrote:  

(09-09-2014 03:25 PM)Dasville Wrote:  

(09-09-2014 02:44 PM)Hokie4Skins Wrote:  UCLA vs. Texas. Yes, Texas looked awful against BYU but UCLA hasn't looked impressive in their two wins. I could see the Longhorns bouncing back Saturday.

Yep!

If Texas wins, it could impact the conference Playoff spot for the Pac12. A Texas win would have more impact on the PAC 12 then it would the Big 12.

A Texas win would impact UCLA- but realistically with Oregon and USC- either one of those finish 12-1- they are in the playoffs pretty much no matter what. Probably could throw Stanford in that mix as well...

So the PAC 12 has the least to lose for the rest of the season based on their scheduling?

Probably- both them and SEC I'd say about equal. Pretty much for either one of them- a 12-1 champ or better and they are in.

(09-09-2014 01:33 PM)Dasville Wrote:  We all know what happened to the B1G last week. While I'm not of the opinion that the B1G is toast regarding the Playoff I do think they took a serious blow to their chances. Several B1G P5 matchups last Sat. but the upset that hurt the B1G the most was VT beating Ohio St. That one game, imo, hurt the B1G the most and did impact the Playoffs. It is now out of the B1G hands as to if they get a team in the Playoffs. That one loss hurt the conference more than it hurt the team. They need help.

Looking at this weeks slate of games, The Big 12 has a number of P5 matchups. if I had to chose 1 game that could impact the Playoffs I would pick the Tenn/Oklahoma game. If Oklahoma gets upset, It would take the decision out of the Big 12's hands as to whether or not one of their teams makes the Playoffs. Their loss would hurt the conference as much or more than their own chances to make the Playoff. Baylor could run the table but their sos would take a huge blow.

I'm sure there are other games like this out there. Chime in with your reasoning.

I agree with you. The VT win was outside the normal yearly matchups and supports the ACC who has the current defending national champion. Plus the Purdue and Northwestern losses to MAC schools weakened the BIG Ten's overall assumed superiority over G5. Nebraska's last second squeaker against McNeese State did not help as well. Plus Penn State barely survived UCF and looked pedestrian against Akron.

If Oklahoma loses to Tennessee this would destroy the Big 12, because if OK beats Baylor, then the SEC will get two bids to the playoffs.

ACC Champ
SEC Champ
SEC Runner Up
PAC 12 Champ