Miami-UC for sure. The fact that we've lost eight in a row yet still lead the series 59-52-7 goes to show how much UC has grown as a program and how much Miami has sucked the past decade.

(09-06-2014 09:21 AM)BearcatJerry Wrote:  

(09-06-2014 09:05 AM)AntiG Wrote:  Guidos vs Hillbillies (WVU) was always my favorite as a Rutgers alum.

Louisville was my favorite rivalry from the last 10 years of the old BE

Wouldn't mind hooking up with Miami again for some revenge now that Rutgers is actually a strong football program.

Cuse and UConn were nice local rivals but our schools were rarely good at the same time.

I have to laugh a little... I live in Morgantown and haven't seen such a concentration of NJ license plates outside of the Garden State itself. There is a HUGE proportion of NJ residents attending WVU, to the point where it is almost an in-state contest. The other thing is that I don't think Rutgers EVER beat WVU...which kinda makes it not such a rivalry game.

I was at the game e the last time Rutgers beat WV. It was the Our House game to close down the old Rutgers Stadium. At one point we had one of the longest home winning streaks in the BE. After we beat WV, the players pulled off their jerseys to reveal t-shirts that stated ouR hoUse. Now I'm just showing my age.

It's already been said but Pitt-WVU and Pitt-PSU have to be played every year. Pitt, PSU, and WVU fans will all pretend like they don't care that they don't play every year but these rivalries are the two best in northeast football without question and it's shameful they're not played every year.

For mznorange and HuskyU. There were only two true rivalries in the BE 2.0. One was the Back Yard Brawl. The other was RU vs UConn. Those were the only fan bases that could agree on who their biggest in conference football rival was. RU/UConn had some really good potential. Too bad we didn't get it named.

(09-06-2014 09:54 PM)mikeinsec127 Wrote:  For mznorange and HuskyU. There were only two true rivalries in the BE 2.0. One was the Back Yard Brawl. The other was RU vs UConn. Those were the only fan bases that could agree on who their biggest in conference football rival was. RU/UConn had some really good potential. Too bad we didn't get it named.

This post is so full of ****

Of interest in the southeast:

Existing Annual:
Georgia Tech - Georgia
Clemson - South Carolina
Florida State - Florida
Kentucky - Louisville

Not Already Existing Annual:
Georgia Tech - Auburn
Clemson - Georgia
NC State - ECU
Georgia Tech - Tennessee
Tennessee - Virginia Tech
Pitt - West Virginia
West Virginia - Maryland
Miami - Florida
Memphis - Ole Miss
Southern Miss - Miss State
South Alabama - UAB
Georgia State - Georgia Southern
Georgia Tech - Tulane
Virginia - Maryland

(09-06-2014 10:17 PM)john01992 Wrote:  

(09-06-2014 09:54 PM)mikeinsec127 Wrote:  For mznorange and HuskyU. There were only two true rivalries in the BE 2.0. One was the Back Yard Brawl. The other was RU vs UConn. Those were the only fan bases that could agree on who their biggest in conference football rival was. RU/UConn had some really good potential. Too bad we didn't get it named.

This post is so full of ****

Actually its not, but that's okay, because opinions are like ass holes.
Several years after the first acc raid one there was an online story about it. Fans of BE teams were polled about who their schools biggest football rival was. Only two sets of fan bases had majorities pick the other school. Obviously pitt/wv was the top. The the surprise second set was RU/UConn. Cincy/Ville may have more history and be a better game, but in order to have a rivalry both sides need to agree that one exists. Cincy fans may have seen Ville as their biggest BE rival, but Ville fans didn't. Ville, cuse and USF all picked wv. If you're a techy kind of guy, I'm sure you will be able to troll the net and find it. I'm not and I don't have time to bother to look. It was during the Schiano-Edsall eras.

(09-06-2014 10:49 AM)EerMeNow Wrote:  

(09-06-2014 09:42 AM)ohio1317 Wrote:  The Backyard Brawl was certainly the defining rivalry of the Big East and I'd like to see it continue, but teamWest Virginia having a 9 game conference schedule and Pitt having other out of conference games it values more (Penn State and Notre Dame), I don't think there is room to make it annual again. Still, they should play a few times a decade.

For Ohio State, I don't want a locked out of conference team. I'd rather vary them.

It would be nice to play Pitt every once in a while, and I do miss the brawl. However, I think a good deal of WVU fans (particularly those under 40) would pass on the Brawl to keep VT on the schedule. I think Luck is doing a masterful job on our OOC scheduling.

I actually agree with this. The WVU v VT rivalry is as nasty as it gets.

I think you will see the Paint Bucket Bowl resume in a few years (AState vs. Memphis, trophy long lost to time but the genesis of it was students would vandalize the other campus ahead of the game, to get some sort of order the two administrations set aside a spot on campus for vandalism and the winning team's students could splash school color paint on the designated area, that later evolved to an actual paint bucket trophy that disappeared during a series hiatus between the late 50's and mid 70's).

In many ways I think we are moving into an era similar to the 1970's. You had a larger Division I football than today but not a great deal of interaction between the haves and have-nots at least compared to what we've seen late 80's to today. There were games but it was less frequent.

Schools in the MAC, Southland, Southern, Valley, PCAA/Big West tried to play non-conference games that were good for ticket sales or good for recruiting and there was hope in some inter-sectional games that things might line up for an ABC regional telecast.

The way realignment shook out across the southern part of the nation creates an interesting situation. Most of the AAC, CUSA, Sun Belt schools have one or several non-conference schools near them. Memphis and AState may never be equity partners in a conference but that's not a bad thing. Each school has four non-conference slots to fill annually, it makes sense to play a school 70 miles away when you know your opponent is going to sell 4k tickets or so, your kids are going to leave campus day of the game and be in their own bed that night.

While I think we are trending to where the economics are going to make regionalism in conferences a better idea, there is also a benefit to not being in the same league if it produces things like Rice-Houston, Tulane-USM, Memphis-AState, Charlotte-App in non-conference.

(09-07-2014 05:12 PM)mikeinsec127 Wrote:  

(09-06-2014 10:17 PM)john01992 Wrote:  

(09-06-2014 09:54 PM)mikeinsec127 Wrote:  For mznorange and HuskyU. There were only two true rivalries in the BE 2.0. One was the Back Yard Brawl. The other was RU vs UConn. Those were the only fan bases that could agree on who their biggest in conference football rival was. RU/UConn had some really good potential. Too bad we didn't get it named.

This post is so full of ****

Actually its not, but that's okay, because opinions are like ass holes.
Several years after the first acc raid one there was an online story about it. Fans of BE teams were polled about who their schools biggest football rival was. Only two sets of fan bases had majorities pick the other school. Obviously pitt/wv was the top. The the surprise second set was RU/UConn. Cincy/Ville may have more history and be a better game, but in order to have a rivalry both sides need to agree that one exists. Cincy fans may have seen Ville as their biggest BE rival, but Ville fans didn't. Ville, cuse and USF all picked wv. If you're a techy kind of guy, I'm sure you will be able to troll the net and find it. I'm not and I don't have time to bother to look. It was during the Schiano-Edsall eras.

Sorry but WVU, SU, & Pitt have been playing each other for so long that saying that other than wvu-pitt the rest weren't real rivalries compared to UCONN-Rutgers is an insult to the sport. Something like 98% of Notre Dame fans don't consider BC their rival, but that doesn't prevent it from being considered one...

(09-07-2014 08:27 PM)john01992 Wrote:  

(09-07-2014 05:12 PM)mikeinsec127 Wrote:  

(09-06-2014 10:17 PM)john01992 Wrote:  

(09-06-2014 09:54 PM)mikeinsec127 Wrote:  For mznorange and HuskyU. There were only two true rivalries in the BE 2.0. One was the Back Yard Brawl. The other was RU vs UConn. Those were the only fan bases that could agree on who their biggest in conference football rival was. RU/UConn had some really good potential. Too bad we didn't get it named.

This post is so full of ****

Actually its not, but that's okay, because opinions are like ass holes.
Several years after the first acc raid one there was an online story about it. Fans of BE teams were polled about who their schools biggest football rival was. Only two sets of fan bases had majorities pick the other school. Obviously pitt/wv was the top. The the surprise second set was RU/UConn. Cincy/Ville may have more history and be a better game, but in order to have a rivalry both sides need to agree that one exists. Cincy fans may have seen Ville as their biggest BE rival, but Ville fans didn't. Ville, cuse and USF all picked wv. If you're a techy kind of guy, I'm sure you will be able to troll the net and find it. I'm not and I don't have time to bother to look. It was during the Schiano-Edsall eras.

Sorry but WVU, SU, & Pitt have been playing each other for so long that saying that other than wvu-pitt the rest weren't real rivalries compared to UCONN-Rutgers is an insult to the sport. Something like 98% of Notre Dame fans don't consider BC their rival, but that doesn't prevent it from being considered one...

You made my point for me. For BC fans it's a rivalry. To ND fans it's just another game being played back East. We played state penn for 20 strait years. For many RU fans it was the game of the year. To state it was just another game. And SU fans only had wv as their #1 because state was not in the BE. That is who they always saw as their biggest rivalry game. In the old BE cuse always thought of daU being their main rival. I'm not saying that cuse/pitt or Cincy/Ville weren't big games. What I'm saying is if both sides don't have it circled as the big one then it's not a rivalry.

(09-07-2014 08:59 PM)mikeinsec127 Wrote:  

(09-07-2014 08:27 PM)john01992 Wrote:  

(09-07-2014 05:12 PM)mikeinsec127 Wrote:  

(09-06-2014 10:17 PM)john01992 Wrote:  

(09-06-2014 09:54 PM)mikeinsec127 Wrote:  For mznorange and HuskyU. There were only two true rivalries in the BE 2.0. One was the Back Yard Brawl. The other was RU vs UConn. Those were the only fan bases that could agree on who their biggest in conference football rival was. RU/UConn had some really good potential. Too bad we didn't get it named.

This post is so full of ****

Actually its not, but that's okay, because opinions are like ass holes.
Several years after the first acc raid one there was an online story about it. Fans of BE teams were polled about who their schools biggest football rival was. Only two sets of fan bases had majorities pick the other school. Obviously pitt/wv was the top. The the surprise second set was RU/UConn. Cincy/Ville may have more history and be a better game, but in order to have a rivalry both sides need to agree that one exists. Cincy fans may have seen Ville as their biggest BE rival, but Ville fans didn't. Ville, cuse and USF all picked wv. If you're a techy kind of guy, I'm sure you will be able to troll the net and find it. I'm not and I don't have time to bother to look. It was during the Schiano-Edsall eras.

Sorry but WVU, SU, & Pitt have been playing each other for so long that saying that other than wvu-pitt the rest weren't real rivalries compared to UCONN-Rutgers is an insult to the sport. Something like 98% of Notre Dame fans don't consider BC their rival, but that doesn't prevent it from being considered one...

You made my point for me. For BC fans it's a rivalry. To ND fans it's just another game being played back East. We played state penn for 20 strait years. For many RU fans it was the game of the year. To state it was just another game. And SU fans only had wv as their #1 because state was not in the BE. That is who they always saw as their biggest rivalry game. In the old BE cuse always thought of daU being their main rival. I'm not saying that cuse/pitt or Cincy/Ville weren't big games. What I'm saying is if both sides don't have it circled as the big one then it's not a rivalry.

UL - UC, SU - WVU, Pitt - WVU, & arguably SU - Pitt > UConn - RU in terms of any metric other than each school considering the other their #1 rival. However, to the extent that you define the phrase "true rivalry" as two schools seeing the other as their #1 rival, UConn - RU was second only to WVU - Pitt in the BE 2.0.

I don't personally define rivalries like you do, but there is no one set definition of the phrase "true rivalry", so to each their own.

(09-07-2014 10:31 PM)nzmorange Wrote:  

(09-07-2014 08:59 PM)mikeinsec127 Wrote:  

(09-07-2014 08:27 PM)john01992 Wrote:  

(09-07-2014 05:12 PM)mikeinsec127 Wrote:  

(09-06-2014 10:17 PM)john01992 Wrote:  This post is so full of ****

Actually its not, but that's okay, because opinions are like ass holes.
Several years after the first acc raid one there was an online story about it. Fans of BE teams were polled about who their schools biggest football rival was. Only two sets of fan bases had majorities pick the other school. Obviously pitt/wv was the top. The the surprise second set was RU/UConn. Cincy/Ville may have more history and be a better game, but in order to have a rivalry both sides need to agree that one exists. Cincy fans may have seen Ville as their biggest BE rival, but Ville fans didn't. Ville, cuse and USF all picked wv. If you're a techy kind of guy, I'm sure you will be able to troll the net and find it. I'm not and I don't have time to bother to look. It was during the Schiano-Edsall eras.

Sorry but WVU, SU, & Pitt have been playing each other for so long that saying that other than wvu-pitt the rest weren't real rivalries compared to UCONN-Rutgers is an insult to the sport. Something like 98% of Notre Dame fans don't consider BC their rival, but that doesn't prevent it from being considered one...

You made my point for me. For BC fans it's a rivalry. To ND fans it's just another game being played back East. We played state penn for 20 strait years. For many RU fans it was the game of the year. To state it was just another game. And SU fans only had wv as their #1 because state was not in the BE. That is who they always saw as their biggest rivalry game. In the old BE cuse always thought of daU being their main rival. I'm not saying that cuse/pitt or Cincy/Ville weren't big games. What I'm saying is if both sides don't have it circled as the big one then it's not a rivalry.

UL - UC, SU - WVU, Pitt - WVU, & arguably SU - Pitt > UConn - RU in terms of any metric other than each school considering the other their #1 rival. However, to the extent that you define the phrase "true rivalry" as two schools seeing the other as their #1 rival, UConn - RU was second only to WVU - Pitt in the BE 2.0.

I don't personally define rivalries like you do, but there is no one set definition of the phrase "true rivalry", so to each their own.

WVU, Louisville and Cincinnati were much bigger, much more meaningful rivals than UConn was for us... UConn was probably our #5 or #6 ranked rival in the old Big East after Syracuse (#4), fighting with Pitt and Temple for the #5 spot. Our rivalry with them was much too short, and really both teams were actually good at the same time like once or twice.

Rutgers top football rivalries ever since Miami, VT and BC left:

1. West Virginia
2. Louisville
3. Cincinnati
4. Syracuse
5. Pitt
6. UConn
7. Temple
8. South Florida

(09-06-2014 08:55 AM)BearcatJerry Wrote:  The University of Cincinnati and Miami University of Ohio have a long running OOC rivalry. (I think it's the 3rd oldest, continuous rivalry in CFB...) The trophy is "The Victory Bell" (I know, it's not unique...). There have been some movement to discontinue the rivalry due to UC moving "up" conference-wise and MoO being a MAC school, but it's our last organic rivalry.

UC vs. Louisville was a FANTASTIC rivalry, though in-conference until recent history. Sadly, this game is gone and I see little-to-no chance of it ever coming back. The trophy was "The Keg O' Nails," which was...well, a wooden nail keg...

Bump- The U.C. & Miami rivalry. Hope it becomes competitive again!