spot on, though I don't like the news

He's goin to DisneyWorld!!!!!!

It's not about the information being right or wrong. It's about who has the authority to release medical information that is not his own.

http://www.ama-assn.org/ama/pub/physicia...ment.page?

"Medical ethics rules, state laws, and the federal law known as the Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act (HIPAA), generally require doctors and their staff to keep patients' medical records confidential, unless the patient allows the doctor's office to disclose them."

(09-06-2014 12:31 PM)snowtiger Wrote:  It's not about the information being right or wrong. It's about who has the authority to release medical information that is not his own.

http://www.ama-assn.org/ama/pub/physicia...ment.page?

"Medical ethics rules, state laws, and the federal law known as the Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act (HIPAA), generally require doctors and their staff to keep patients' medical records confidential, unless the patient allows the doctor's office to disclose them."

Am I a doctor? Am I a nurse? Am I a member of any medical staff connected to Martin Ifedi and the University of Memphis? No, no, and no.

(09-06-2014 12:31 PM)snowtiger Wrote:  It's not about the information being right or wrong. It's about who has the authority to release medical information that is not his own.

http://www.ama-assn.org/ama/pub/physicia...ment.page?

"Medical ethics rules, state laws, and the federal law known as the Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act (HIPAA), generally require doctors and their staff to keep patients' medical records confidential, unless the patient allows the doctor's office to disclose them."

You never give up do you? Lol

(09-06-2014 12:31 PM)snowtiger Wrote:  It's not about the information being right or wrong. It's about who has the authority to release medical information that is not his own.

http://www.ama-assn.org/ama/pub/physicia...ment.page?

"Medical ethics rules, state laws, and the federal law known as the Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act (HIPAA), generally require doctors and their staff to keep patients' medical records confidential, unless the patient allows the doctor's office to disclose them."

Just make sure you are consistant with your attacks. Like i said, other folks were discussing his (ankle) injury in other forums including a radio show that reaches many more folks than this place. I am sure you addressed your concern openly to them as well.

(09-06-2014 01:21 PM)FUT Wrote:  

(09-06-2014 12:31 PM)snowtiger Wrote:  It's not about the information being right or wrong. It's about who has the authority to release medical information that is not his own.

http://www.ama-assn.org/ama/pub/physicia...ment.page?

"Medical ethics rules, state laws, and the federal law known as the Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act (HIPAA), generally require doctors and their staff to keep patients' medical records confidential, unless the patient allows the doctor's office to disclose them."

Just make sure you are consistant with your attacks. Like i said, other folks were discussing his (ankle) injury in other forums including a radio show that reaches many more folks than this place. I am sure you addressed your concern openly to them as well.

Popcorn

(09-06-2014 01:21 PM)FUT Wrote:  

(09-06-2014 12:31 PM)snowtiger Wrote:  It's not about the information being right or wrong. It's about who has the authority to release medical information that is not his own.

http://www.ama-assn.org/ama/pub/physicia...ment.page?

"Medical ethics rules, state laws, and the federal law known as the Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act (HIPAA), generally require doctors and their staff to keep patients' medical records confidential, unless the patient allows the doctor's office to disclose them."

Just make sure you are consistant with your attacks. Like i said, other folks were discussing his (ankle) injury in other forums including a radio show that reaches many more folks than this place. I am sure you addressed your concern openly to them as well.

Not an attack. Attacks involve more than message board posts. Posts are only words, after all. Edit: And besides Consistency is for organizations like the NCAA. I'm a message board poster. lol.

Actually, you are the one who reminded me that HIPPA was involved in one of your recent posts that was deleted. I had forgotten this law could be applied in cases of the release of medical information.

(09-06-2014 01:29 PM)snowtiger Wrote:  

(09-06-2014 01:21 PM)FUT Wrote:  

(09-06-2014 12:31 PM)snowtiger Wrote:  It's not about the information being right or wrong. It's about who has the authority to release medical information that is not his own.

http://www.ama-assn.org/ama/pub/physicia...ment.page?

"Medical ethics rules, state laws, and the federal law known as the Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act (HIPAA), generally require doctors and their staff to keep patients' medical records confidential, unless the patient allows the doctor's office to disclose them."

Just make sure you are consistant with your attacks. Like i said, other folks were discussing his (ankle) injury in other forums including a radio show that reaches many more folks than this place. I am sure you addressed your concern openly to them as well.

Not an attack. Attacks involve more than message board posts. Posts are only words, after all.

Actually, you are the one who reminded me that HIPPA was involved in one of your recent posts that was deleted. I had forgotten this law could be applied in cases of the release of medical information.

Attack may be too strong but i was struggling to come up with a better description of the way you responded to the original report. As for hippa, i am not sure how in the world you can apply that to a message board poster or reporter. Protected sources and what not.

(09-06-2014 01:14 PM)Brother Bluto Wrote:  

(09-06-2014 12:31 PM)snowtiger Wrote:  It's not about the information being right or wrong. It's about who has the authority to release medical information that is not his own.

http://www.ama-assn.org/ama/pub/physicia...ment.page?

"Medical ethics rules, state laws, and the federal law known as the Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act (HIPAA), generally require doctors and their staff to keep patients' medical records confidential, unless the patient allows the doctor's office to disclose them."

You never give up do you? Lol

Actually I just found this out myself. There's lawyers in the family. I'm just sharing info...lol. I really don't have a dog in this discussion anymore. I only want Martin Ifedi to get better faster than any projections...

(09-06-2014 12:44 PM)MemTiger90 Wrote:  

(09-06-2014 12:31 PM)snowtiger Wrote:  It's not about the information being right or wrong. It's about who has the authority to release medical information that is not his own.

http://www.ama-assn.org/ama/pub/physicia...ment.page?

"Medical ethics rules, state laws, and the federal law known as the Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act (HIPAA), generally require doctors and their staff to keep patients' medical records confidential, unless the patient allows the doctor's office to disclose them."

Am I a doctor? Am I a nurse? Am I a member of any medical staff connected to Martin Ifedi and the University of Memphis? No, no, and no.

Kind of a gray area, correct? Maybe it should have been shared, maybe not. Doesn't seem like it's worth getting into a conflict over.

I can see both sides of the discussion:
- Releasing info about an injury can help the opponent prepare, hence why many football teams are cagey about their info. (See NE Patriots)
- This is a Memphis Tigers message board, and we are here to discuss the team and any relevant info. This is certainly worthy of discussion.

Would I have shared that info? Don't know for sure, I've always been a 'process discussion' over 'info' kind of guy, so maybe not. But I have always known little. Not an insider and that is not my role around here.

And I have NEVER understood people getting in an uproar over the source, timeliness, or correctness of information as media sources disseminate info and do not create it. I would say that some people tend to discuss the source over info, which I find frustrating and counter productive. But, that is not a mt.org thing, that is a human nature thing. I might be the dumb one for being frustrated by that…

So while I may not have shared the info, and understand some frustration about it from a competitive standpoint, can't really kill the poster for sharing what he heard/knew/saw. We are always wanting more and better information, and the original discussion included that.

Main thing is I hope our guy is okay long term. Bummer for him as well as the team :(

(09-06-2014 01:34 PM)FUT Wrote:  

(09-06-2014 01:29 PM)snowtiger Wrote:  

(09-06-2014 01:21 PM)FUT Wrote:  

(09-06-2014 12:31 PM)snowtiger Wrote:  It's not about the information being right or wrong. It's about who has the authority to release medical information that is not his own.

http://www.ama-assn.org/ama/pub/physicia...ment.page?

"Medical ethics rules, state laws, and the federal law known as the Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act (HIPAA), generally require doctors and their staff to keep patients' medical records confidential, unless the patient allows the doctor's office to disclose them."

Just make sure you are consistant with your attacks. Like i said, other folks were discussing his (ankle) injury in other forums including a radio show that reaches many more folks than this place. I am sure you addressed your concern openly to them as well.

Not an attack. Attacks involve more than message board posts. Posts are only words, after all.

Actually, you are the one who reminded me that HIPPA was involved in one of your recent posts that was deleted. I had forgotten this law could be applied in cases of the release of medical information.

Attack may be too strong but i was struggling to come up with a better description of the way you responded to the original report. As for hippa, i am not sure how in the world you can apply that to a message board poster or reporter. Protected sources and what not.

I would venture a guess FUT is 100% correct on HIPPA. Unless our poster in question is someone it applied to (team doctor, med professional attached), then I would think he is clear. Now whoever told the poster might have a HIPPA cause for concern, but I would also venture a guess, it is a 'telephone' type scenario that had a good translation rate…

Analogy is if I screw up a drawing as an architect for structural stuff, the client can still sue me even if he signs off on the design. It wouldn't be his liability.

However, if he signs off a finish (i.e. non-structural/life safety concern), good luck on suing me b/c he doesn't like the granite counter. He is just as qualified legally (if not in reality) to make that call.

We do live in a lawyered up society, but they do usually know where to aim...

(09-06-2014 01:39 PM)Sundanceuiuc Wrote:  

(09-06-2014 12:44 PM)MemTiger90 Wrote:  

(09-06-2014 12:31 PM)snowtiger Wrote:  It's not about the information being right or wrong. It's about who has the authority to release medical information that is not his own.

http://www.ama-assn.org/ama/pub/physicia...ment.page?

"Medical ethics rules, state laws, and the federal law known as the Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act (HIPAA), generally require doctors and their staff to keep patients' medical records confidential, unless the patient allows the doctor's office to disclose them."

Am I a doctor? Am I a nurse? Am I a member of any medical staff connected to Martin Ifedi and the University of Memphis? No, no, and no.

Kind of a gray area, correct? Maybe it should have been shared, maybe not. Doesn't seem like it's worth getting into a conflict over.

I can see both sides of the discussion:
- Releasing info about an injury can help the opponent prepare, hence why many football teams are cagey about their info. (See NE Patriots)
- This is a Memphis Tigers message board, and we are here to discuss the team and any relevant info. This is certainly worthy of discussion.

Would I have shared that info? Don't know for sure, I've always been a 'process discussion' over 'info' kind of guy, so maybe not. But I have always known little. Not an insider and that is not my role around here.

And I have NEVER understood people getting in an uproar over the source, timeliness, or correctness of information as media sources disseminate info and do not create it. I would say that some people tend to discuss the source over info, which I find frustrating and counter productive. But, that is not a mt.org thing, that is a human nature thing. I might be the dumb one for being frustrated by that…

So while I may not have shared the info, and understand some frustration about it from a competitive standpoint, can't really kill the poster for sharing what he heard/knew/saw. We are always wanting more and better information, and the original discussion included that.

Main thing is I hope our guy is okay long term. Bummer for him as well as the team :(

Well said.

(09-06-2014 01:34 PM)FUT Wrote:  

(09-06-2014 01:29 PM)snowtiger Wrote:  

(09-06-2014 01:21 PM)FUT Wrote:  

(09-06-2014 12:31 PM)snowtiger Wrote:  It's not about the information being right or wrong. It's about who has the authority to release medical information that is not his own.

http://www.ama-assn.org/ama/pub/physicia...ment.page?

"Medical ethics rules, state laws, and the federal law known as the Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act (HIPAA), generally require doctors and their staff to keep patients' medical records confidential, unless the patient allows the doctor's office to disclose them."

Just make sure you are consistant with your attacks. Like i said, other folks were discussing his (ankle) injury in other forums including a radio show that reaches many more folks than this place. I am sure you addressed your concern openly to them as well.

Not an attack. Attacks involve more than message board posts. Posts are only words, after all.

Actually, you are the one who reminded me that HIPPA was involved in one of your recent posts that was deleted. I had forgotten this law could be applied in cases of the release of medical information.

Attack may be too strong but i was struggling to come up with a better description of the way you responded to the original report. As for hippa, i am not sure how in the world you can apply that to a message board poster or reporter. Protected sources and what not.

I would think it depends on how much money a person pays for a lawyer, who the lawyer knows, and who the unauthorized release of the medical info damaged.

It's always for the 'courts' to decide how the law is interpreted. Hey, but who really cares at this point if what the 'kid' said was right?

For me, it was never about being right. It was about respect for the injured party and what was being released at that time by the injured person and our Head Coach who, by the way, is still not discussing the particulars. I know I know he never does...but maybe that's for a reason.

"Football is like life - it requires perseverance, self-denial, hard work, sacrifice, dedication and .... respect for authority."
Vince Lombardi

(09-06-2014 01:46 PM)snowtiger Wrote:  

(09-06-2014 01:34 PM)FUT Wrote:  

(09-06-2014 01:29 PM)snowtiger Wrote:  

(09-06-2014 01:21 PM)FUT Wrote:  

(09-06-2014 12:31 PM)snowtiger Wrote:  It's not about the information being right or wrong. It's about who has the authority to release medical information that is not his own.

http://www.ama-assn.org/ama/pub/physicia...ment.page?

"Medical ethics rules, state laws, and the federal law known as the Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act (HIPAA), generally require doctors and their staff to keep patients' medical records confidential, unless the patient allows the doctor's office to disclose them."

Just make sure you are consistant with your attacks. Like i said, other folks were discussing his (ankle) injury in other forums including a radio show that reaches many more folks than this place. I am sure you addressed your concern openly to them as well.

Not an attack. Attacks involve more than message board posts. Posts are only words, after all.

Actually, you are the one who reminded me that HIPPA was involved in one of your recent posts that was deleted. I had forgotten this law could be applied in cases of the release of medical information.

Attack may be too strong but i was struggling to come up with a better description of the way you responded to the original report. As for hippa, i am not sure how in the world you can apply that to a message board poster or reporter. Protected sources and what not.

I would think it depends on how much money a person pays for a lawyer, who the lawyer knows, and who the unauthorized release of the medical info damaged.

It's always for the 'courts' to decide how the law is interpreted. Hey, but who really cares at this point if what the 'kid' said was right?

For me, it was never about being right. It was about respect for the injured party and what was being released at that time by the injured person and our the Head Coach who, by the way, is still not discussing the particulars. I know I know he never does...but maybe that's for a reason.

"Football is like life - it requires perseverance, self-denial, hard work, sacrifice, dedication and .... respect for authority."
Vince Lombardi

Like i said, i simply think you should be consistent in voicing your concern.

(09-06-2014 01:49 PM)FUT Wrote:  

(09-06-2014 01:46 PM)snowtiger Wrote:  

(09-06-2014 01:34 PM)FUT Wrote:  

(09-06-2014 01:29 PM)snowtiger Wrote:  

(09-06-2014 01:21 PM)FUT Wrote:  Just make sure you are consistant with your attacks. Like i said, other folks were discussing his (ankle) injury in other forums including a radio show that reaches many more folks than this place. I am sure you addressed your concern openly to them as well.

Not an attack. Attacks involve more than message board posts. Posts are only words, after all.

Actually, you are the one who reminded me that HIPPA was involved in one of your recent posts that was deleted. I had forgotten this law could be applied in cases of the release of medical information.

Attack may be too strong but i was struggling to come up with a better description of the way you responded to the original report. As for hippa, i am not sure how in the world you can apply that to a message board poster or reporter. Protected sources and what not.

I would think it depends on how much money a person pays for a lawyer, who the lawyer knows, and who the unauthorized release of the medical info damaged.

It's always for the 'courts' to decide how the law is interpreted. Hey, but who really cares at this point if what the 'kid' said was right?

For me, it was never about being right. It was about respect for the injured party and what was being released at that time by the injured person and our the Head Coach who, by the way, is still not discussing the particulars. I know I know he never does...but maybe that's for a reason.

"Football is like life - it requires perseverance, self-denial, hard work, sacrifice, dedication and .... respect for authority."
Vince Lombardi

Like i said, i simply think you should be consistent in voicing your concern.

I'll take that under advisement.

(09-06-2014 01:53 PM)snowtiger Wrote:  

(09-06-2014 01:49 PM)FUT Wrote:  

(09-06-2014 01:46 PM)snowtiger Wrote:  

(09-06-2014 01:34 PM)FUT Wrote:  

(09-06-2014 01:29 PM)snowtiger Wrote:  Not an attack. Attacks involve more than message board posts. Posts are only words, after all.

Actually, you are the one who reminded me that HIPPA was involved in one of your recent posts that was deleted. I had forgotten this law could be applied in cases of the release of medical information.

Attack may be too strong but i was struggling to come up with a better description of the way you responded to the original report. As for hippa, i am not sure how in the world you can apply that to a message board poster or reporter. Protected sources and what not.

I would think it depends on how much money a person pays for a lawyer, who the lawyer knows, and who the unauthorized release of the medical info damaged.

It's always for the 'courts' to decide how the law is interpreted. Hey, but who really cares at this point if what the 'kid' said was right?

For me, it was never about being right. It was about respect for the injured party and what was being released at that time by the injured person and our the Head Coach who, by the way, is still not discussing the particulars. I know I know he never does...but maybe that's for a reason.

"Football is like life - it requires perseverance, self-denial, hard work, sacrifice, dedication and .... respect for authority."
Vince Lombardi

Like i said, i simply think you should be consistent in voicing your concern.

I'll take that under advisement.

Sure you will. Actually enjoyed the discussion. Thanks for keeping it civil.

(09-06-2014 01:55 PM)FUT Wrote:  

(09-06-2014 01:53 PM)snowtiger Wrote:  

(09-06-2014 01:49 PM)FUT Wrote:  

(09-06-2014 01:46 PM)snowtiger Wrote:  

(09-06-2014 01:34 PM)FUT Wrote:  Attack may be too strong but i was struggling to come up with a better description of the way you responded to the original report. As for hippa, i am not sure how in the world you can apply that to a message board poster or reporter. Protected sources and what not.

I would think it depends on how much money a person pays for a lawyer, who the lawyer knows, and who the unauthorized release of the medical info damaged.

It's always for the 'courts' to decide how the law is interpreted. Hey, but who really cares at this point if what the 'kid' said was right?

For me, it was never about being right. It was about respect for the injured party and what was being released at that time by the injured person and our the Head Coach who, by the way, is still not discussing the particulars. I know I know he never does...but maybe that's for a reason.

"Football is like life - it requires perseverance, self-denial, hard work, sacrifice, dedication and .... respect for authority."
Vince Lombardi

Like i said, i simply think you should be consistent in voicing your concern.

I'll take that under advisement.

Sure you will. Actually enjoyed the discussion. Thanks for keeping it civil.

And to you, too. I am nothing if not always civil. lol.

Concern voiced to everyone who revealed the status of Ifedi's injury would be more like a crusade. There's no money in crusading.

(09-06-2014 01:37 PM)snowtiger Wrote:  

(09-06-2014 01:14 PM)Brother Bluto Wrote:  

(09-06-2014 12:31 PM)snowtiger Wrote:  It's not about the information being right or wrong. It's about who has the authority to release medical information that is not his own.

http://www.ama-assn.org/ama/pub/physicia...ment.page?

"Medical ethics rules, state laws, and the federal law known as the Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act (HIPAA), generally require doctors and their staff to keep patients' medical records confidential, unless the patient allows the doctor's office to disclose them."

You never give up do you? Lol

Actually I just found this out myself. There's lawyers in the family. I'm just sharing info...lol. I really don't have a dog in this discussion anymore. I only want Martin Ifedi to get better faster than any projections...

I believe you

(09-06-2014 02:44 PM)Brother Bluto Wrote:  

(09-06-2014 01:37 PM)snowtiger Wrote:  

(09-06-2014 01:14 PM)Brother Bluto Wrote:  

(09-06-2014 12:31 PM)snowtiger Wrote:  It's not about the information being right or wrong. It's about who has the authority to release medical information that is not his own.

http://www.ama-assn.org/ama/pub/physicia...ment.page?

"Medical ethics rules, state laws, and the federal law known as the Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act (HIPAA), generally require doctors and their staff to keep patients' medical records confidential, unless the patient allows the doctor's office to disclose them."

You never give up do you? Lol

Actually I just found this out myself. There's lawyers in the family. I'm just sharing info...lol. I really don't have a dog in this discussion anymore. I only want Martin Ifedi to get better faster than any projections...

I believe you

I believeU2.
It is good to take all medical projections and diagnoses with grains of salt. Miracles are too few and far between. Gotta leave room for results to be quicker than medical projections. lol.