(09-04-2014 09:54 PM)Cali_Cat Wrote:  

(09-04-2014 08:53 PM)OneUChoopsfan Wrote:  Relax, guys.

Tommy knows football.

Munchie would have been the QB had he not suffered that injury last year. I do not trust Tuberville to do the right thing and choose Kiel, we'll see...

Go back to hating football. you are a loser. did you get the free basketball tixs with you season football tixs? of course not. Now football rules. keep drinking the ****.

(09-04-2014 09:56 PM)DMT Wrote:  What are they seeing that I'm not? I don't get it.

Practice. By most accounts Gunner is not a great practice player, his focus waxes and wanes day to day. But when the lights come on Kiel snaps into focus and plays well. Everyone who watched the spring game, and the handful of people who has scrimmages have raved about Kiel's performance in those settings. When the speed of play gets faster Kiel responds accordingly.

Besides there is no way in hell that Tubs throws out a guy who is coming off a surgically repaired knee for the majority of the game when he has not one but two perfectly healthy alternatives.

(09-04-2014 08:56 PM)Dannyboy Wrote:  

(09-04-2014 08:53 PM)OneUChoopsfan Wrote:  Relax, guys.

Tommy knows football.

He does. But if Munchie starts, it's a massive mistake. We've seen everything Munchie has to offer. And it's ****.

I'd say keep things under wraps and force Toledo to prepare for all 3 guys. He knows what he's doing.

(09-04-2014 09:49 PM)Bearcat85 Wrote:  

(09-04-2014 08:28 PM)rosewater Wrote:  Starting Munchie is the equivalent to forfeiting the first game. We cannot overcome Munchie at quarterback and beat Toledo. Someone send Tubberville Munchies last attempt at Toledo. There is no benefit to starting Munchie. He cannot hit a wide open receiver. I would like to sit down with kay and find out the reason for this. I mean Kay has the game of his life in the Belk Bowl and ends up on the bench the following season.

Kay had a bad back. That's what worries me....maybe Gunner isnt healthy.

He is healthy and running with the ones. I fully expect him to be the guy.

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(09-04-2014 08:53 PM)OneUChoopsfan Wrote:  Relax, guys.

Tommy knows football.

Yes, he does. And, by the way...

...FOR THE LAST TIME, BRENDON KAY WAS HURT AT THE BEGINNING OF LAST SEASON!!

If people really were paying attention to the team, they'd realize Kay was STILL HURT AT THE END of the season.

Look I know many of you on here think Kiel is the next big thing but as I've said OVER and OVER...the man hasn't played at the college level. In addition...why isn't he the star starting qb at ND? Could be for good reason, sure. But when you take off the blinders and start looking at things in reality...well, let's just say I'm not surprised by CTT's comments.

And for the record, maybe Kiel is the man and CTT is just trying to keep Toledo guessing...who knows.

(09-05-2014 05:51 AM)Marcus Wrote:  

(09-04-2014 08:56 PM)Dannyboy Wrote:  

(09-04-2014 08:53 PM)OneUChoopsfan Wrote:  Relax, guys.

Tommy knows football.

He does. But if Munchie starts, it's a massive mistake. We've seen everything Munchie has to offer. And it's ****.

I'd say keep things under wraps and force Toledo to prepare for all 3 guys. He knows what he's doing.

I'm 75% sure you're right. But Munchie has been the bad penny that keeps showing up. Tubs is doing such a good job confusing Toledo that he's confused us all.

Well played, CTT. Well played.

My gut says he's just playing coy, too. Of course, we don't know what's going on behind closed doors; it wouldn't be out of the realm of possibilities for this situation to somehow be tied to a non-football issue for all we know.

I'm with the majority, I think we all hope gunner is the guy, but reading the hatred some of you guys have displayed towards Munchie for 2-3 years is embarassing. He is no high level D-1 starting QB in any galaxy ever... But by all accounts he's a great young guy, a hard worker, an awesome teammate, and a bearcat. This dudes knee was going the wrong way laying on the ground a year ago in champagne, his TD run that got overturned earlier that day, he literally did a helicopter in midair getting crushed by 2 guys trying to punch in a TD that would have gave us life.... He put his entire body on the line that day for his teammates coaches and us fans. By all accounts he willed and killed himself to get back this fast to even be able to run out of the tunnel a week from today. I hope he's not our starting QB, I've seen that act, but if he is I'll root for him harder than just about anybody that has ever put on that uniform. Some of you (and it's not just this thread) should be ashamed

(09-05-2014 07:34 AM)batmn0323 Wrote:  I'm with the majority, I think we all hope gunner is the guy, but reading the hatred some of you guys have displayed towards Munchie for 2-3 years is embarassing. He is no high level D-1 starting QB in any galaxy ever... But by all accounts he's a great young guy, a hard worker, an awesome teammate, and a bearcat. This dudes knee was going the wrong way laying on the ground a year ago in champagne, his TD run that got overturned earlier that day, he literally did a helicopter in midair getting crushed by 2 guys trying to punch in a TD that would have gave us life.... He put his entire body on the line that day for his teammates coaches and us fans. By all accounts he willed and killed himself to get back this fast to even be able to run out of the tunnel a week from today. I hope he's not our starting QB, I've seen that act, but if he is I'll root for him harder than just about anybody that has ever put on that uniform. Some of you (and it's not just this thread) should be ashamed

great post. We see them as chess pieces. They are people and they seem to be a tight group. I trust TT knows what he is doing .

(09-05-2014 07:34 AM)batmn0323 Wrote:  I'm with the majority, I think we all hope gunner is the guy, but reading the hatred some of you guys have displayed towards Munchie for 2-3 years is embarassing. He is no high level D-1 starting QB in any galaxy ever... But by all accounts he's a great young guy, a hard worker, an awesome teammate, and a bearcat. This dudes knee was going the wrong way laying on the ground a year ago in champagne, his TD run that got overturned earlier that day, he literally did a helicopter in midair getting crushed by 2 guys trying to punch in a TD that would have gave us life.... He put his entire body on the line that day for his teammates coaches and us fans. By all accounts he willed and killed himself to get back this fast to even be able to run out of the tunnel a week from today. I hope he's not our starting QB, I've seen that act, but if he is I'll root for him harder than just about anybody that has ever put on that uniform. Some of you (and it's not just this thread) should be ashamed

Right on.

(09-05-2014 07:50 AM)letharion Wrote:  

(09-05-2014 07:34 AM)batmn0323 Wrote:  I'm with the majority, I think we all hope gunner is the guy, but reading the hatred some of you guys have displayed towards Munchie for 2-3 years is embarassing. He is no high level D-1 starting QB in any galaxy ever... But by all accounts he's a great young guy, a hard worker, an awesome teammate, and a bearcat. This dudes knee was going the wrong way laying on the ground a year ago in champagne, his TD run that got overturned earlier that day, he literally did a helicopter in midair getting crushed by 2 guys trying to punch in a TD that would have gave us life.... He put his entire body on the line that day for his teammates coaches and us fans. By all accounts he willed and killed himself to get back this fast to even be able to run out of the tunnel a week from today. I hope he's not our starting QB, I've seen that act, but if he is I'll root for him harder than just about anybody that has ever put on that uniform. Some of you (and it's not just this thread) should be ashamed

Right on.

Despite losing the game, I will always remember that WVU game where Zach broke his ankle and Munchie came in cool as a cucumber and had WV on their heels. That game had me so excited for the future. I will always think of Munchie as that dude.

(09-05-2014 07:34 AM)batmn0323 Wrote:  I'm with the majority, I think we all hope gunner is the guy, but reading the hatred some of you guys have displayed towards Munchie for 2-3 years is embarassing. He is no high level D-1 starting QB in any galaxy ever... But by all accounts he's a great young guy, a hard worker, an awesome teammate, and a bearcat. This dudes knee was going the wrong way laying on the ground a year ago in champagne, his TD run that got overturned earlier that day, he literally did a helicopter in midair getting crushed by 2 guys trying to punch in a TD that would have gave us life.... He put his entire body on the line that day for his teammates coaches and us fans. By all accounts he willed and killed himself to get back this fast to even be able to run out of the tunnel a week from today. I hope he's not our starting QB, I've seen that act, but if he is I'll root for him harder than just about anybody that has ever put on that uniform. Some of you (and it's not just this thread) should be ashamed

Major reps.

Kid has ton of heart and is a Bearcat. He also already graduated and as far as I know has never had any off the field issues. If and when he comes on the field this year he will get a round of applause from me.

(09-05-2014 07:34 AM)batmn0323 Wrote:  I'm with the majority, I think we all hope gunner is the guy, but reading the hatred some of you guys have displayed towards Munchie for 2-3 years is embarassing. He is no high level D-1 starting QB in any galaxy ever... But by all accounts he's a great young guy, a hard worker, an awesome teammate, and a bearcat. This dudes knee was going the wrong way laying on the ground a year ago in champagne, his TD run that got overturned earlier that day, he literally did a helicopter in midair getting crushed by 2 guys trying to punch in a TD that would have gave us life.... He put his entire body on the line that day for his teammates coaches and us fans. By all accounts he willed and killed himself to get back this fast to even be able to run out of the tunnel a week from today. I hope he's not our starting QB, I've seen that act, but if he is I'll root for him harder than just about anybody that has ever put on that uniform. Some of you (and it's not just this thread) should be ashamed

Get off your high horse. No one here personally dislikes Munchie. We just don't like the way he plays QB. His stats show he's not a good QB and he doesn't pass the eye test. Anyone who has seen him play knows he's not an elite college QB. Munchie may be a great guy, a great ambassador for the university, and a great future coach at UC....but he's not a great QB.

If Munchie starts or even gets meaningful playing time against Toledo that will tell me either A) UC's QB situation is in dire straits ... or ... B) TT has lost his mind.

(09-05-2014 07:34 AM)batmn0323 Wrote:  I'm with the majority, I think we all hope gunner is the guy, but reading the hatred some of you guys have displayed towards Munchie for 2-3 years is embarassing. He is no high level D-1 starting QB in any galaxy ever... But by all accounts he's a great young guy, a hard worker, an awesome teammate, and a bearcat. This dudes knee was going the wrong way laying on the ground a year ago in champagne, his TD run that got overturned earlier that day, he literally did a helicopter in midair getting crushed by 2 guys trying to punch in a TD that would have gave us life.... He put his entire body on the line that day for his teammates coaches and us fans. By all accounts he willed and killed himself to get back this fast to even be able to run out of the tunnel a week from today. I hope he's not our starting QB, I've seen that act, but if he is I'll root for him harder than just about anybody that has ever put on that uniform. Some of you (and it's not just this thread) should be ashamed

Miss me with this BS. No one here has attacked him as a person, called him lazy or said he wasn't a good kid.

(09-05-2014 09:01 AM)nachoman91 Wrote:  

(09-05-2014 07:34 AM)batmn0323 Wrote:  I'm with the majority, I think we all hope gunner is the guy, but reading the hatred some of you guys have displayed towards Munchie for 2-3 years is embarassing. He is no high level D-1 starting QB in any galaxy ever... But by all accounts he's a great young guy, a hard worker, an awesome teammate, and a bearcat. This dudes knee was going the wrong way laying on the ground a year ago in champagne, his TD run that got overturned earlier that day, he literally did a helicopter in midair getting crushed by 2 guys trying to punch in a TD that would have gave us life.... He put his entire body on the line that day for his teammates coaches and us fans. By all accounts he willed and killed himself to get back this fast to even be able to run out of the tunnel a week from today. I hope he's not our starting QB, I've seen that act, but if he is I'll root for him harder than just about anybody that has ever put on that uniform. Some of you (and it's not just this thread) should be ashamed

Get off your high horse. No one here personally dislikes Munchie. We just don't like the way he plays QB. His stats show he's not a good QB and he doesn't pass the eye test. Anyone who has seen him play knows he's not an elite college QB. Munchie may be a great guy, a great ambassador for the university, and a great future coach at UC....but he's not a great QB.

If Munchie starts or even gets meaningful playing time against Toledo that will tell me either A) UC's QB situation is in dire straits ... or ... B) TT has lost his mind.

High horse?! Really? Just go back and read the Munchie related threads.... I agree with everything you mention football wise by the way. But this happens every time too, these "guys" get defensive about their Munchie bashing and say it's not personal? Then why post it when 99.9 percent of the people on here all have the same take on Munchie the QB. We all get it....

(09-05-2014 09:04 AM)Cali_Cat Wrote:  

(09-05-2014 07:34 AM)batmn0323 Wrote:  I'm with the majority, I think we all hope gunner is the guy, but reading the hatred some of you guys have displayed towards Munchie for 2-3 years is embarassing. He is no high level D-1 starting QB in any galaxy ever... But by all accounts he's a great young guy, a hard worker, an awesome teammate, and a bearcat. This dudes knee was going the wrong way laying on the ground a year ago in champagne, his TD run that got overturned earlier that day, he literally did a helicopter in midair getting crushed by 2 guys trying to punch in a TD that would have gave us life.... He put his entire body on the line that day for his teammates coaches and us fans. By all accounts he willed and killed himself to get back this fast to even be able to run out of the tunnel a week from today. I hope he's not our starting QB, I've seen that act, but if he is I'll root for him harder than just about anybody that has ever put on that uniform. Some of you (and it's not just this thread) should be ashamed

Miss me with this BS. No one here has attacked him as a person, called him lazy or said he wasn't a good kid.

Didn't miss me with your bs, all due respect. Like I said, this is about the 40th rehash of a thread that has turned into Munchie bashing, but according to some in the know you wouldn't get it because you don't read football threads, and seem far more concerned with hoops....

Saying Munchie is a bad QB is a fact. It's not a personal attack.

(09-05-2014 09:27 AM)Dannyboy Wrote:  Saying Munchie is a bad QB is a fact. It's not a personal attack.

Who disagrees with you, besides nobody... This is the equivalent of 40 the sky is blue threads. I'm done arguing with the bearcat brethren after this on this topic. All of our Munchie takes are the same, though I would say it seemed George Whitfield tweaked his broken mechanics to where they weren't completely destroyed. His footwork seemed better, he looked like he had a better base, and he seemed to square his shoulders better on the move, his arm slot was still bad though, his motion looked long and whippy, like vince young and Tim tebow combined.. Mopper could probably speak to these things better than me but I say all that agreeing with the entire population on here. I don't want him at QB, nobody does. We know

(09-05-2014 06:31 AM)Bearcats#1 Wrote:  In addition...why isn't he the star starting qb at ND?

Because Notre Dame was returning a QB who had just led his team to a National Championship game appearance and still had 2 years of eligibility remaining.