(12-29-2014 03:06 PM)Maize Wrote:  

(12-29-2014 12:29 AM)USAFMEDIC Wrote:  

(12-29-2014 12:14 AM)Maize Wrote:  

(12-28-2014 11:10 PM)USAFMEDIC Wrote:  The NFL needs to adopt a rule preventing teams like the Browns from making fools out of themselves by drafting kids like Manziel. He is clueless about being a man and a team member. I watched real men take the field today... injured, throwing up sick, retiring, and nothing to play for except pride. He cannot even stand on the same field with them. He cannot even read a watch or set an alarm. He needs to take his kiddy friends and indulge in the PlayStation League. He will be one of the biggest busts in NFL history, Great college QB but it ended there...

Jimmy Haslem needs to stay out of the War Room...again Ray Farmer the Browns GM had Bridgewater name on the Draft Card...Haslem overruled him...in December both Bridgewater and Carr have been outstanding...Manziel is thisclose to be flst out Cut Already in Cleveland.

True. He got caught up in all the hype. My goodness... look at the guy. He looks like a punter. This is not rocket science. Look at the physique of RGIII and how is that working out?

Running QB just don't work at the Highest Level of Football...especially when you have 300 Pound DL that can run a 4.5 Forty...

Eh, Russell Wilson seems to do okay...

(12-29-2014 03:11 PM)Hokie4Skins Wrote:  

(12-29-2014 03:06 PM)Maize Wrote:  

(12-29-2014 12:29 AM)USAFMEDIC Wrote:  

(12-29-2014 12:14 AM)Maize Wrote:  

(12-28-2014 11:10 PM)USAFMEDIC Wrote:  The NFL needs to adopt a rule preventing teams like the Browns from making fools out of themselves by drafting kids like Manziel. He is clueless about being a man and a team member. I watched real men take the field today... injured, throwing up sick, retiring, and nothing to play for except pride. He cannot even stand on the same field with them. He cannot even read a watch or set an alarm. He needs to take his kiddy friends and indulge in the PlayStation League. He will be one of the biggest busts in NFL history, Great college QB but it ended there...

Jimmy Haslem needs to stay out of the War Room...again Ray Farmer the Browns GM had Bridgewater name on the Draft Card...Haslem overruled him...in December both Bridgewater and Carr have been outstanding...Manziel is thisclose to be flst out Cut Already in Cleveland.

True. He got caught up in all the hype. My goodness... look at the guy. He looks like a punter. This is not rocket science. Look at the physique of RGIII and how is that working out?

Running QB just don't work at the Highest Level of Football...especially when you have 300 Pound DL that can run a 4.5 Forty...

Eh, Russell Wilson seems to do okay...

He not a "Running QB"...he is a Mobile QB kind of like Luck and Rodgers...at the end of the day he tries to win from the pocket....the other two-(Manziel/RGIII) take off after their first read is not open.

(12-29-2014 03:01 PM)Wedge Wrote:  

(12-28-2014 10:18 PM)bitcruncher Wrote:  The NFL should make a rule stipulating that any time Ndamukong Suh steps on somebody it's an automatic 15 yard personal foul, and results in a disqualification for multiple games. IMO he deliberately stepped on both of Aaron Rodgers ankles, and this isn't the first time he's done something like that.

Suh is reportedly suspended for the Lions' playoff game vs. the Cowboys, per ESPN.

He should be. IMO he's a dirty player who has no business on the football field.

(12-29-2014 03:13 PM)Maize Wrote:  

(12-29-2014 03:11 PM)Hokie4Skins Wrote:  

(12-29-2014 03:06 PM)Maize Wrote:  

(12-29-2014 12:29 AM)USAFMEDIC Wrote:  

(12-29-2014 12:14 AM)Maize Wrote:  Jimmy Haslem needs to stay out of the War Room...again Ray Farmer the Browns GM had Bridgewater name on the Draft Card...Haslem overruled him...in December both Bridgewater and Carr have been outstanding...Manziel is thisclose to be flst out Cut Already in Cleveland.

True. He got caught up in all the hype. My goodness... look at the guy. He looks like a punter. This is not rocket science. Look at the physique of RGIII and how is that working out?

Running QB just don't work at the Highest Level of Football...especially when you have 300 Pound DL that can run a 4.5 Forty...

Eh, Russell Wilson seems to do okay...

He not a "Running QB"...he is a Mobile QB kind of like Luck and Rodgers...at the end of the day he tries to win from the pocket....the other two-(Manziel/RGIII) take off after their first read is not open.

Wilson just ran for almost 900 yards this season. The last QB to do that was Randall Cunningham. If that's not a running QB then what is?

http://www.sportsonearth.com/article/102...nning-back

(12-29-2014 03:30 PM)Hokie4Skins Wrote:  

(12-29-2014 03:13 PM)Maize Wrote:  

(12-29-2014 03:11 PM)Hokie4Skins Wrote:  

(12-29-2014 03:06 PM)Maize Wrote:  

(12-29-2014 12:29 AM)USAFMEDIC Wrote:  True. He got caught up in all the hype. My goodness... look at the guy. He looks like a punter. This is not rocket science. Look at the physique of RGIII and how is that working out?

Running QB just don't work at the Highest Level of Football...especially when you have 300 Pound DL that can run a 4.5 Forty...

Eh, Russell Wilson seems to do okay...

He not a "Running QB"...he is a Mobile QB kind of like Luck and Rodgers...at the end of the day he tries to win from the pocket....the other two-(Manziel/RGIII) take off after their first read is not open.

Wilson just ran for almost 900 yards this season. The last QB to do that was Randall Cunningham. If that's not a running QB then what is?

http://www.sportsonearth.com/article/102...nning-back

At the end of the day he is a pass first QB...he threw for basically for the same amount of passing yards as Tony Romo...And unlike Manziel, RGIII He does goes through his progression...much like Steve Young did in his Prime with the 49ers.

(12-29-2014 03:34 PM)Maize Wrote:  

(12-29-2014 03:30 PM)Hokie4Skins Wrote:  

(12-29-2014 03:13 PM)Maize Wrote:  

(12-29-2014 03:11 PM)Hokie4Skins Wrote:  

(12-29-2014 03:06 PM)Maize Wrote:  Running QB just don't work at the Highest Level of Football...especially when you have 300 Pound DL that can run a 4.5 Forty...

Eh, Russell Wilson seems to do okay...

He not a "Running QB"...he is a Mobile QB kind of like Luck and Rodgers...at the end of the day he tries to win from the pocket....the other two-(Manziel/RGIII) take off after their first read is not open.

Wilson just ran for almost 900 yards this season. The last QB to do that was Randall Cunningham. If that's not a running QB then what is?

http://www.sportsonearth.com/article/102...nning-back

At the end of the day he is a pass first QB...he threw for basically for the same amount of passing yards as Tony Romo...And unlike Manziel, RGIII He does goes through his progression...much like Steve Young did in his Prime with the 49ers.

The point is that Wilson is an effective running QB as well as a passing QB. He ran 138 times this year, which is slightly below the number of rushing attempts Steve Young had for his entire NFL career. He has to deal with 4.5 speed D linemen just like RGIII and Manziel do.

My main point is Run First QB just don't last in the League...Young and now Wilson look to beat you from the pocket...RGIII has yet learn to do that...but yes he can run just like Luck and Rodgers.

It's this kind of thinking that hurts College FB.

SETTLE IT ON THE FIELD.

Every team knows what they need to do to win. There is enough parity in the NFL, the makings of a champion are:
1) Win your freakin' division and get to the playoffs. Possible champions do what needs to be done to make that happen.
2) Win the right combo of games at the end of the season to get a wild card. And get to the playoffs.

There is no second-guessing or hair-splitting needed here.

So what their division sucks. They won it. And they get the home game.

(12-29-2014 08:08 PM)Maize Wrote:  My main point is Run First QB just don't last in the League

It worked pretty good for Fran Tarkenton.

(12-28-2014 08:18 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(12-28-2014 08:16 PM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote:  Carolina, with a losing record, will have a home playoff game against 11-5 Arizona.
Total BS.

That's not BS. Win your division if you want home field.

What *is* BS is how Seattle might get screwed. If Carolina beats Arizona, they will go to Green Bay, while Seattle would have to face the much-better Lions/Cowboys winner, since that team will be the technically "lower seed".

They should be guaranteed a playoff spot and nothing else if they have an 8-8 record or worse. The way things are set up a 15-1 team could be visiting a 3-13 team (mathematically possible) and the argument would still be that a certain team won its division. Winning a division should count but it is only 6 of 16 games that are played within one.

(12-29-2014 08:14 PM)bitcruncher Wrote:  

(12-29-2014 08:08 PM)Maize Wrote:  My main point is Run First QB just don't last in the League

It worked pretty good for Fran Tarkenton.

Different Time Period....went to an NFL Game this year...10 rows from the Sidelines...the size and speed as compared to the P5 College Game is flat out Scary...Nobody in the 60-70's could be over 300 Pounds and run a 4.5...back in Fran Day the average Lineman was around 250 Pounds.

(12-29-2014 08:26 PM)_C2_ Wrote:  Winning a division should count but it is only 6 of 16 games that are played within one.

This.

If you want to make a division championship worth something, then put more than 4 teams in each division.

Not sure how I ended up on this bread so far back, but wanted to add my two cents. The NFL should take a page from the NBA and seed as is, but let home field be decided by record.

NFL has already said the 14 team expanded playoff will be reseeded 4-7 for wild card weekend. So 7@2 and 6@3 and 5@4, but 7/6/5 could end up being the fourth place division champion. It would have looked like this in 2014:

1/3/14

1:00 ET Panthers @ Packers (FOX)
4:30 ET Houston @ Denver (CBS)
8:15 ET Baltimore @ Pitt (ESPN)

1/4/14

1:00 ET Bengals @ Indy (CBS)
4:30 ET Detroit @ Arizona (Fox)
8:15 ET Eagles @ Dallas (NBC)

(01-01-2015 11:51 AM)RUScarlets Wrote:  NFL has already said the 14 team expanded playoff will be reseeded 4-7 for wild card weekend. So 7@2 and 6@3 and 5@4, but 7/6/5 could end up being the fourth place division champion.

The likely proposal is slightly different from that, it's that the home team in the 4 vs. 5 game in each conference would be the team with the best record among the 4th-best division champ and the best-placed wild card team. So this year's 7-win NFC South champ (Carolina) would have to go on the road against the best WC team (Arizona), but wouldn't have to play the NFC's #2 seed in the first round.

(01-01-2015 11:51 AM)RUScarlets Wrote:  NFL has already said the 14 team expanded playoff will be reseeded 4-7 for wild card weekend. So 7@2 and 6@3 and 5@4, but 7/6/5 could end up being the fourth place division champion. It would have looked like this in 2014:

NFC

1/3/14

1:00 ET Panthers @ Packers (FOX)
4:30 ET Houston @ Denver (CBS)
8:15 ET Baltimore @ Pitt (ESPN)

1/4/14

1:00 ET Bengals @ Indy (CBS)
4:30 ET Detroit @ Arizona (Fox)
8:15 ET Eagles @ Dallas (NBC)

Just looking at that lineup the NFL will be making even more Billions...as much ppl here love College Football...looking at this is why the owners are expanding...2 Days...6 Games of NFL Playoff Football...

Not really. I can barely get through this New Year's Six extravaganza. I fell in and out of sleep. Of that slate, we are talking about sub .500 and 9-7 teams. Not the makings of competitive games. This year happens to be a year without a lot of parity in the NFL though, unlike CF.

There is no way I would watch all six playoff games. I would get a headache somewhere in there, especially in the games I have no rooting interest in, or lopsided matchups. Does the NFL really need a triple header back to back days, coming off of New Years? I'm just speaking from my personal preference, but obviously it would generate additional revenue by default. Not something I need though. It would make WC weekend a regional event instead of a national event because no one can sit through almost 24 hours of football telecasts in one weekend.

(12-28-2014 08:16 PM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote:  Carolina, with a losing record, will have a home playoff game against 11-5 Arizona.
Total BS.

As a Panthers fan I'm happy we won the South in back to back years. That said, I'd be lying if the NFCS overall was good this year. I do think a division winner should be in the playoffs but hosting a game...not so sure. That said, the Panthers TOOK IT from the Falcons and have looked real good their last 4 games... WE are hot and healthy.... the Panthers, if we don't screw ourselves over, can win a few game this playoff season.


I teased someone today that wouldn't it be epic with say a Carolina/Baltimore Super Bowl with Steve Smith in the middle.