(09-02-2014 01:59 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  Why is this so hard to understand for so many people?

Marriage is a sacred union between a man and woman. Not a man and man. Not a woman and a woman. Or a man and 10 women -or even a man woman and a tree.

Losing sight of this opens the doors for all kinds of new laws and unions - At what point do you want to salvage society?

I agree with you. Just saying they have a better argument than the gays, not that I accept their argument, but they can and do bring children into the world.

(09-02-2014 01:59 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  Why is this so hard to understand for so many people?

Marriage is a sacred union between a man and woman. Not a man and man. Not a woman and a woman. Or a man and 10 women -or even a man woman and a tree.

Losing sight of this opens the doors for all kinds of new laws and unions - At what point do you want to salvage society?

According to who?

(09-02-2014 02:06 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  

(09-02-2014 01:59 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  Why is this so hard to understand for so many people?

Marriage is a sacred union between a man and woman. Not a man and man. Not a woman and a woman. Or a man and 10 women -or even a man woman and a tree.

Losing sight of this opens the doors for all kinds of new laws and unions - At what point do you want to salvage society?

According to who?

Okla. Come on... you must know that he is the king of all and his beliefs are all that matter, even if you give him facts proving his beliefs invalid.

I wonder how legalized polygamy affects corporate family healthcare plans?

If a business can’t discriminate against same sex families, then they certainly can’t
exclude "multi-person unions" the access to health benefits… and that could be a lot
of people added to a group policy, particularly childbearing aged women.

How crazy do you have to be to want multiple women complaining in your ear all the friggin time?

(09-02-2014 02:06 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  

(09-02-2014 01:59 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  Why is this so hard to understand for so many people?

Marriage is a sacred union between a man and woman. Not a man and man. Not a woman and a woman. Or a man and 10 women -or even a man woman and a tree.

Losing sight of this opens the doors for all kinds of new laws and unions - At what point do you want to salvage society?

According to who?

So you have no issue with another group coming in and redefining marriage to mean 1 man 1 8 yo girl?

(09-02-2014 01:42 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  

(09-02-2014 01:31 PM)bearcat65 Wrote:  

(09-02-2014 01:03 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  

(09-02-2014 12:56 PM)fsquid Wrote:  

(09-02-2014 12:55 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  Not caring has worked so well in this country.

as long as my name is spell right on the check brother.

yep, pretty much what I suspected. As long as you get yours, to hell with the moral fiber of this country.

Let's allow adults to marry children and animals.

While one wife is all I care to have who am I to say someone can't have more than one if all involved are consenting? A man can live with as many women as he wishes, have as many children as he wants to with them, but if he chooses to make a commitment to them only then is it against the law.

exactly, and when some fringe group wants to marry children and animals you'll totally be ok with that. Who are we to object?

I don't think you got the point I was trying to make. If I can go out and find 3 willing women I can live with them, have kids with them, and the law won't bother me. Only if I marry them does the law have a problem. Seems arbitrary to me.
I don't think marriage between consenting adults is comparable to child and animal abuse.

(09-02-2014 03:54 PM)bearcat65 Wrote:  

(09-02-2014 01:42 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  

(09-02-2014 01:31 PM)bearcat65 Wrote:  

(09-02-2014 01:03 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  

(09-02-2014 12:56 PM)fsquid Wrote:  as long as my name is spell right on the check brother.

yep, pretty much what I suspected. As long as you get yours, to hell with the moral fiber of this country.

Let's allow adults to marry children and animals.

While one wife is all I care to have who am I to say someone can't have more than one if all involved are consenting? A man can live with as many women as he wishes, have as many children as he wants to with them, but if he chooses to make a commitment to them only then is it against the law.

exactly, and when some fringe group wants to marry children and animals you'll totally be ok with that. Who are we to object?

I don't think you got the point I was trying to make. If I can go out and find 3 willing women I can live with them, have kids with them, and the law won't bother me. Only if I marry them does the law have a problem. Seems arbitrary to me.
I don't think marriage between consenting adults is comparable to child and animal abuse.

Why would that be child abuse if they are consenting? Do you decide what is child abuse? So if man and can find a consenting 9 year old to live with you'd be ok with that because only the law would say it is wrong?

(09-02-2014 03:47 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  

(09-02-2014 02:06 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  

(09-02-2014 01:59 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  Why is this so hard to understand for so many people?

Marriage is a sacred union between a man and woman. Not a man and man. Not a woman and a woman. Or a man and 10 women -or even a man woman and a tree.

Losing sight of this opens the doors for all kinds of new laws and unions - At what point do you want to salvage society?

According to who?

So you have no issue with another group coming in and redefining marriage to mean 1 man 1 8 yo girl?

Who is doing that?

Nice strawman BTW.

(09-02-2014 04:21 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  

(09-02-2014 03:47 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  

(09-02-2014 02:06 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  

(09-02-2014 01:59 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  Why is this so hard to understand for so many people?

Marriage is a sacred union between a man and woman. Not a man and man. Not a woman and a woman. Or a man and 10 women -or even a man woman and a tree.

Losing sight of this opens the doors for all kinds of new laws and unions - At what point do you want to salvage society?

According to who?

So you have no issue with another group coming in and redefining marriage to mean 1 man 1 8 yo girl?

Who is doing that?

Nice strawman BTW.

It's not a straw man. There are groups right now that are actively trying to legalize pedophilia - right here in the western world. They are growing in numbers and will force the issue just like gay marriage.

Gay marriage was illegal until the laws were struck down by activist courts representing a minority. The same will happen with pedophilia and bestiality because we have opened the doors and set the societal precedent.

There are some people that view polygamy and gay marriage to be just as unethically sound as pedophilia...and you seem to think it is your decision to make on which should be acceptable and which should be taboo.

You can bet your sweet ass that the same arguments you are using to advocate gay marriage will be used.

In a society where everything goes, everything eventual does.

You are not looking at this in a smart manner.

(09-02-2014 04:29 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  

(09-02-2014 04:21 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  

(09-02-2014 03:47 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  

(09-02-2014 02:06 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  

(09-02-2014 01:59 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  Why is this so hard to understand for so many people?

Marriage is a sacred union between a man and woman. Not a man and man. Not a woman and a woman. Or a man and 10 women -or even a man woman and a tree.

Losing sight of this opens the doors for all kinds of new laws and unions - At what point do you want to salvage society?

According to who?

So you have no issue with another group coming in and redefining marriage to mean 1 man 1 8 yo girl?

Who is doing that?

Nice strawman BTW.

It's not a straw man. There are groups right now that are actively trying to legalize pedophilia - right here in the western world. They are growing in numbers and will force the issue just like gay marriage.

Gay marriage was illegal until the laws were struck down by activist courts representing a minority. The same will happen with pedophilia and bestiality because we have opened the doors and set the societal precedent.

There are some people that view polygamy and gay marriage to be just as unethically sound as pedophilia...and you seem to think it is your decision to make on which should be acceptable and which should be taboo.

You can bet your sweet ass that the same arguments you are using to advocate gay marriage will be used.

In a society where everything goes, everything eventual does.

You are not looking at this in a smart manner.

Actually I am.

I'm not the one saying that laws allowing for marriage between consenting adults automatically is going to lead to laws that allows for marriage between children, who by law can't consent. That simply because there are people who for whatever reason advocate for any change in the law to allow for that means it is going to happen. There are organizations of all different kinds that advocate for changes of all different kinds. Just because they exist doesn't mean the changes are going to be enacted.

(09-02-2014 04:47 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  

(09-02-2014 04:29 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  

(09-02-2014 04:21 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  

(09-02-2014 03:47 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  

(09-02-2014 02:06 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  According to who?

So you have no issue with another group coming in and redefining marriage to mean 1 man 1 8 yo girl?

Who is doing that?

Nice strawman BTW.

It's not a straw man. There are groups right now that are actively trying to legalize pedophilia - right here in the western world. They are growing in numbers and will force the issue just like gay marriage.

Gay marriage was illegal until the laws were struck down by activist courts representing a minority. The same will happen with pedophilia and bestiality because we have opened the doors and set the societal precedent.

There are some people that view polygamy and gay marriage to be just as unethically sound as pedophilia...and you seem to think it is your decision to make on which should be acceptable and which should be taboo.

You can bet your sweet ass that the same arguments you are using to advocate gay marriage will be used.

In a society where everything goes, everything eventual does.

You are not looking at this in a smart manner.

Actually I am.

I'm not the one saying that laws allowing for marriage between consenting adults automatically is going to lead to laws that allows for marriage between children, who by law can't consent. That simply because there are people who for whatever reason advocate for any change in the law to allow for that means it is going to happen. There are organizations of all different kinds that advocate for changes of all different kinds. Just because they exist doesn't mean the changes are going to be enacted.

but what you are failing to realize is these groups are saying children can consent and they have even found their own "science" to back up that notion. There is no difference in this and how gay marriage began its journey into the mainstream. Famous last words and it's always too little too late.

"This won't lead to that." Yes it will. It always does.

You don't really think there is an end to the left wing do you?

I'll say this again.

"In a society where everything goes, everything eventually does. "

(09-02-2014 10:51 AM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  

(09-02-2014 10:29 AM)fsquid Wrote:  I have to say that I don't understand why I should give a ****. Maybe someone can explain it.

Because it's another fragment in our culture and another shot at traditional marriage. This is the kind of stuff that creates societal breakdowns.

"In a society where everything goes, everything eventually does."

thank you crazy internutz phd for starting a thread that opened up your crapper once again with meaningless info....

it's called, "sniff, sniff.....aw hell, I done sharted"

(09-02-2014 04:55 PM)stinkfist Wrote:  

(09-02-2014 10:51 AM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  

(09-02-2014 10:29 AM)fsquid Wrote:  I have to say that I don't understand why I should give a ****. Maybe someone can explain it.

Because it's another fragment in our culture and another shot at traditional marriage. This is the kind of stuff that creates societal breakdowns.

"In a society where everything goes, everything eventually does."

thank you crazy internutz phd for starting a thread that opened up your crapper once again with meaningless info....

it's called, "sniff, sniff.....aw hell, I done sharted"

What do you care? You'd marry your bong if it was legal.

(09-02-2014 04:52 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  

(09-02-2014 04:47 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  

(09-02-2014 04:29 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  

(09-02-2014 04:21 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  

(09-02-2014 03:47 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  So you have no issue with another group coming in and redefining marriage to mean 1 man 1 8 yo girl?

Who is doing that?

Nice strawman BTW.

It's not a straw man. There are groups right now that are actively trying to legalize pedophilia - right here in the western world. They are growing in numbers and will force the issue just like gay marriage.

Gay marriage was illegal until the laws were struck down by activist courts representing a minority. The same will happen with pedophilia and bestiality because we have opened the doors and set the societal precedent.

There are some people that view polygamy and gay marriage to be just as unethically sound as pedophilia...and you seem to think it is your decision to make on which should be acceptable and which should be taboo.

You can bet your sweet ass that the same arguments you are using to advocate gay marriage will be used.

In a society where everything goes, everything eventual does.

You are not looking at this in a smart manner.

Actually I am.

I'm not the one saying that laws allowing for marriage between consenting adults automatically is going to lead to laws that allows for marriage between children, who by law can't consent. That simply because there are people who for whatever reason advocate for any change in the law to allow for that means it is going to happen. There are organizations of all different kinds that advocate for changes of all different kinds. Just because they exist doesn't mean the changes are going to be enacted.

but what you are failing to realize is these groups are saying children can consent and they have even found their own "science" to back up that notion. There is no difference in this and how gay marriage began its journey into the mainstream. Famous last words and it's always too little too late.

"This won't lead to that." Yes it will. It always does.

You don't really think there is an end to the left wing do you?

I'll say this again.

"In a society where everything goes, everything eventually does. "

That's an incredible, pretty much Olympic level leap in judgement but I have seen enough threads derailed by you to know that once you have your mind made up on something then it doesn't matter what else is said you will maintain your stance. I happen to not live with a tinfoil hat on, I don't see ulterior motives behind every move, and I evidently have a hell of a lot more faith in my fellow man than you do.

(09-02-2014 04:58 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  

(09-02-2014 04:55 PM)stinkfist Wrote:  

(09-02-2014 10:51 AM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  

(09-02-2014 10:29 AM)fsquid Wrote:  I have to say that I don't understand why I should give a ****. Maybe someone can explain it.

Because it's another fragment in our culture and another shot at traditional marriage. This is the kind of stuff that creates societal breakdowns.

"In a society where everything goes, everything eventually does."

thank you crazy internutz phd for starting a thread that opened up your crapper once again with meaningless info....

it's called, "sniff, sniff.....aw hell, I done sharted"

What do you care? You'd marry your bong if it was legal.

ye


I don't care, but since you continually fall back to the same senseless rhetoric as a retort, I give you this in bliss.....she is now sucking the schlong whilst hittin' da bong.....have a good day....I yam....

your mirror has to shout back in anger....."stop looking at me mtfkr.....how many times do I have to tell you that you define POS"

narcissistic reflections reflect the current regime you despise.....

me calls that...................wait for it....................irony minus any minerals (but you don't get british humor)

(09-02-2014 04:01 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  Why would that be child abuse if they are consenting? Do you decide what is child abuse? So if man and can find a consenting 9 year old to live with you'd be ok with that because only the law would say it is wrong?

Consent is the key word. A 9 year old is not able to give consent. If they were they would also be allowed to enter contracts, vote, etc. The age of consent can very, usually between 16-18 years old, so if you wanted to make your argument more valid, this is the age range you should focus on.
As for animals, that is just silly. At no age can an animal give consent. They are treated like property for the most part. And in several States carnal knowledge of an animal is illegal

So both morally and legally it is wrong. I would think the Gay Marriage Equality folks would be very supportive of this. One of the main arguments was about allowing consenting adults to marry any other consenting adults. I would think, given that definition, the number would be irrelevant.

My wife woke me up at 5AM this morning to tell me to do some stupid chore before I went to work. I don't think I could handle that from more than one woman.

(09-02-2014 05:01 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  

(09-02-2014 04:52 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  

(09-02-2014 04:47 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  

(09-02-2014 04:29 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  

(09-02-2014 04:21 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  Who is doing that?

Nice strawman BTW.

It's not a straw man. There are groups right now that are actively trying to legalize pedophilia - right here in the western world. They are growing in numbers and will force the issue just like gay marriage.

Gay marriage was illegal until the laws were struck down by activist courts representing a minority. The same will happen with pedophilia and bestiality because we have opened the doors and set the societal precedent.

There are some people that view polygamy and gay marriage to be just as unethically sound as pedophilia...and you seem to think it is your decision to make on which should be acceptable and which should be taboo.

You can bet your sweet ass that the same arguments you are using to advocate gay marriage will be used.

In a society where everything goes, everything eventual does.

You are not looking at this in a smart manner.

Actually I am.

I'm not the one saying that laws allowing for marriage between consenting adults automatically is going to lead to laws that allows for marriage between children, who by law can't consent. That simply because there are people who for whatever reason advocate for any change in the law to allow for that means it is going to happen. There are organizations of all different kinds that advocate for changes of all different kinds. Just because they exist doesn't mean the changes are going to be enacted.

but what you are failing to realize is these groups are saying children can consent and they have even found their own "science" to back up that notion. There is no difference in this and how gay marriage began its journey into the mainstream. Famous last words and it's always too little too late.

"This won't lead to that." Yes it will. It always does.

You don't really think there is an end to the left wing do you?

I'll say this again.

"In a society where everything goes, everything eventually does. "

That's an incredible, pretty much Olympic level leap in judgement but I have seen enough threads derailed by you to know that once you have your mind made up on something then it doesn't matter what else is said you will maintain your stance. I happen to not live with a tinfoil hat on, I don't see ulterior motives behind every move, and I evidently have a hell of a lot more faith in my fellow man than you do.

derailed? How have we jumped off topic? Tinfoil hat? I guess people who thought marriage would be a free for all 15 years ago wore tinfoil hats as well.

You asked and I delivered. That's what I believe and I can supply thousands of years of human history to back it up. You don't have to agree, but don't act surprised when you realize I'm right. I usually am.

(09-02-2014 05:59 PM)nomad2u2001 Wrote:  My wife woke me up at 5AM this morning to tell me to do some stupid chore before I went to work. I don't think I could handle that from more than one woman.

That's not how it works. They have separate households and the man takes turns spending time in each home.