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Rocket fans are going to show the powers that be that they are ready to pack the Glass Bowl to the rafters to justify that major renovation fans dream of. GO ROCKETS


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(09-01-2014 04:07 PM)indianasniff Wrote:  Rocket fans are going to show the powers that be that they are ready to pack the Glass Bowl to the rafters to justify that major renovation fans dream of. GO ROCKETS

I certainly hope so. If a game such as this can't pack the house then the attendance situation is pretty much hopeless. Looking back it is remarkable how often there were 30,000 or more in attendance back in 2000 and 2001. While it is true that regular tickets are a lot more expensive now than they were then, the Fan Plan is still a great bargain for good seats.
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I went over to check out the buzz on the Mizzou board and they have few strings going about the Toledo game. The following link and a copy of post from that link is about the most detailed and most optimistic (from the Mizzou perspective) that I found over there----but of course there is still a few days to go
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Posted on: September 1, 2014 at 20:07:08 CT
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Ordinarily there aren't a lot of takeaways to be had from FCS games, but I think New Hampshire vs Toledo is an exception. Mizzou is going to shatter the glass bowl...

Toledo is searching for answers in the secondary. Against NH they ran a ton of nickel out of 3 and 4 man fronts, mixed in some other sets, and also looked comfortable with their 4-3. They rotated more than 10 different guys at corner and safety in the first half alone. Several guys listed as safeties looked solid in coverage and tackled well, but the outside corners #2 and #5 were getting worked.

The Dline was similarly suspect. There was quite a bit of rotation so guys didn't appear to be tired. Although they didn't get pushed around on run plays there was very little push from them either. Pressure on the qb was from the generous use of blitzes(corners, safeties, and LBs) even when four man fronts were used. Our Oline will really tear these dudes apart.

The one unit of Toledo's D that lived up to my expectations were the linebackers. They showed very good athleticism and were frequently tasked with rushing, sometimes lined up as DEs and other times in blitz packages. While they looked fluid in coverage, the middle was exposed for much of the game. Coming into the season I expected the LBs to be the difference against us. While it's true they're capable of doing just that, they will end up spending much of the game compensating for an inferior Dline and overburdened safeties.

I know everyone is saying Maty needs to stop going for the home run every play, but against this D I see him getting nasty good stats from dropping bomb after bomb. Any adjustment to counter our mismatches down field will result in an absolute jail break from the ground game. It's gonna be good.

As far as their O... The qb is solid. They have a nice set of backs - all three can get yards, but none will be outrunning our guys. Hunt will slip through a couple of Ruise arm tackles, but shouldn't be too much for our other outside backers to handle(gotta feeling Singleton let's him know who's boss as well). Scherer and Zeus can hold the middle against their limited use of FBs and Hbacks without breaking a sweat.

I wasn't impressed with their Oline at all, which was a big surprise. Our D line will absolutely decimate them. It will get ugly.

They showed a lot of two tight sets and some pistol with both a TE and an H but I doubt they do that with us as much(if they do, great). There is a little dude by the name of Corey Jones that will be a headache to deal with, but a healthy Gibson could take him 1v1 all day. Their L. Wash-esque WR Russell is capable, but not good enough to reliably beat Penton or Dennis. Olack showed up against NH, but Webb and/or Singleton will eat him alive. In fact, I think our secondary has another multi-pick day against the former bama boy(no knock on him though, he is solid).

This game will be a blast to watch. If we lose a game this season, it won't be in Toledo.
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(09-01-2014 08:35 PM)T-Town Wrote:  I went over to check out the buzz on the Mizzou board and they have few strings going about the Toledo game. The following link and a copy of post from that link is about the most detailed and most optimistic (from the Mizzou perspective) that I found over there----but of course there is still a few days to go

Man, I HATE message boards set up like theirs is. It's practically impossible to read.
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This is the SDS Jack Rabbits that Eastern Washington beat in the 2nd round of the 2013 FCS play-offs 41-17. They played the Tigers a little tighter on Saturday in Columbia 38-18. SDS turned the FB over 3 times with Mizzou scoring 20 points off the T/O's. The Tiger's also had a 100 yd K/O return.Total YDs was in Mizzou's favor 395-365. The Jack Rabbits' had a 70+yds TD run against the Mizzou Defense.
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I read that. If you can take all of what he said by our stats, we should win by 50 reading into mizzous stats... I mean come on. We had 600+ yards of offense and he was less than impressed with the o line? Haha

I think Mizzou will keep us humble at 4.8 yards per carry not 7.5 like UNH. I think it will be relatively low scoring. Mizzou couldn't score vs. SDS and won't be able to show 4 TD's on offense this week either. We cannot turn the ball over to them... But actually if there was a blow out I don't think it would be us getting blown out. They are going to be about a 7.5 point favorite by game time. It should be a fun one. Mizzous offense and special teams don't scare me at all. Their D is still pretty good.

If we lose, I like our chances better vs. UC. Being healthy is more important anyways.
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(09-01-2014 09:10 PM)UofToledoFans Wrote:  I read that. If you can take all of what he said by our stats, we should win by 50 reading into mizzous stats... I mean come on. We had 600+ yards of offense and he was less than impressed with the o line? Haha

I think Mizzou will keep us humble at 4.8 yards per carry not 7.5 like UNH. I think it will be relatively low scoring. Mizzou couldn't score vs. SDS and won't be able to show 4 TD's on offense this week either. We cannot turn the ball over to them... But actually if there was a blow out I don't think it would be us getting blown out. They are going to be about a 7.5 point favorite by game time. It should be a fun one. Mizzous offense and special teams don't scare me at all. Their D is still pretty good.

If we lose, I like our chances better vs. UC. Being healthy is more important anyways.

SDS avg about 3.8 yds/att. The worst thing for the Jack Rabbits was their starting QB got knocked out of the game in the 2nd quarter
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The guy iss a total homer who understands squat about football. Not impressed with no sacks, 300+ both running and passing? Not too swift.
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The fact that NH could not run on us, PERIOD, says something. However, they were able to throw against us way too successfully.

I don't know--I think the potential is there in Coach Heacock's defense. Not sure the guys are quite gellin' in it yet and not sure we quite have the horses yet. Based on what I saw Saturday the best we can hope for is a shoot out.

OTOH, I think the poster T-Town referenced might be prone to delusions of grandeur.
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how many former UT coaches are still on the staff at Mizzou? Cornel Ford's wife was one of my favorites. Very outgoing and loved all the UT fans. Hope they make the trip, would love to see them again.

The familiar names I see are:

Cornell Ford
Dave Steckel
Craig Kulikowski
Brian Jones

Gone are Christenson and Yost. One took a head coaching job and the other left under some pressure due to poor performance in his area of control. Of course, Amstutz became the head coach and did will with hiring Spence and others, and getting more mileage out of Bolden, Taylor and others.
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I looked. I think the ones you mentioned are it. I think I saw Christienson's name pop up online as an OC for I think Utah?
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(09-01-2014 08:35 PM)T-Town Wrote:  I went over to check out the buzz on the Mizzou board and they have few strings going about the Toledo game. The following link and a copy of post from that link is about the most detailed and most optimistic (from the Mizzou perspective) that I found over there----but of course there is still a few days to go
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http://tigerboard.com/boards/missouri-ti...e=12169019
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Excellent news... I was wrong about Toledo.
Posted on: September 1, 2014 at 20:07:08 CT
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Ordinarily there aren't a lot of takeaways to be had from FCS games, but I think New Hampshire vs Toledo is an exception. Mizzou is going to shatter the glass bowl...

Toledo is searching for answers in the secondary. Against NH they ran a ton of nickel out of 3 and 4 man fronts, mixed in some other sets, and also looked comfortable with their 4-3. They rotated more than 10 different guys at corner and safety in the first half alone. Several guys listed as safeties looked solid in coverage and tackled well, but the outside corners #2 and #5 were getting worked.

The Dline was similarly suspect. There was quite a bit of rotation so guys didn't appear to be tired. Although they didn't get pushed around on run plays there was very little push from them either. Pressure on the qb was from the generous use of blitzes(corners, safeties, and LBs) even when four man fronts were used. Our Oline will really tear these dudes apart.

The one unit of Toledo's D that lived up to my expectations were the linebackers. They showed very good athleticism and were frequently tasked with rushing, sometimes lined up as DEs and other times in blitz packages. While they looked fluid in coverage, the middle was exposed for much of the game. Coming into the season I expected the LBs to be the difference against us. While it's true they're capable of doing just that, they will end up spending much of the game compensating for an inferior Dline and overburdened safeties.

I know everyone is saying Maty needs to stop going for the home run every play, but against this D I see him getting nasty good stats from dropping bomb after bomb. Any adjustment to counter our mismatches down field will result in an absolute jail break from the ground game. It's gonna be good.

As far as their O... The qb is solid. They have a nice set of backs - all three can get yards, but none will be outrunning our guys. Hunt will slip through a couple of Ruise arm tackles, but shouldn't be too much for our other outside backers to handle(gotta feeling Singleton let's him know who's boss as well). Scherer and Zeus can hold the middle against their limited use of FBs and Hbacks without breaking a sweat.

I wasn't impressed with their Oline at all, which was a big surprise. Our D line will absolutely decimate them. It will get ugly.

They showed a lot of two tight sets and some pistol with both a TE and an H but I doubt they do that with us as much(if they do, great). There is a little dude by the name of Corey Jones that will be a headache to deal with, but a healthy Gibson could take him 1v1 all day. Their L. Wash-esque WR Russell is capable, but not good enough to reliably beat Penton or Dennis. Olack showed up against NH, but Webb and/or Singleton will eat him alive. In fact, I think our secondary has another multi-pick day against the former bama boy(no knock on him though, he is solid).

This game will be a blast to watch. If we lose a game this season, it won't be in Toledo.

I think any "objective" opinion by any fan is always subjective. I do agree that the defense is going to be playing behind the 8 ball. Mauk did not have a lot of passing yards, but I think they had 231 yards rushing. The secondary is going to have to find a way to play at a different level on Saturday, because the linebackers are going to be needed in the box. Can't afford a slow start in this game.
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THESE are things that should be posted in the locker room to pump our boys up.

LETS TAKE IT TO THE TIGERS AND WELCOME THEM WITH SOME GOOD OLE GLASS BOWL HOSPITALITY
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I don't understand what he meant when he said our d line will get torn to shreds? Didn't our defense get to Mauk and their other qb a ton last year? Their tall receivers beat us... as well as UT turnovers giving their offense more opportunities. Our d line played well last season vs. Mizzou as well vs. UNH. We had 3 sacks as well as made their qb rush out of the pocket many times once not even being able to throw the ball to the line of scrimmage accounting for an intentional grounding penalty. He is even aware of the depth which he mentioned having 10 different guys play on the DL.
A strong suit for our D if you ask me? It isn't all on the linebackers that UNH couldn't run the ball.
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The guy is a moron. Don't pay any attention to him.
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Guess we'll know the outcome of everything by about 4:00 PM EST on Saturday, September 6th, 2014.

As they say, "That's why they play the game."

GO ROCKETS!!!
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(09-02-2014 08:48 AM)rocketinchitown Wrote:  THESE are things that should be posted in the locker room to pump our boys up.

LETS TAKE IT TO THE TIGERS AND WELCOME THEM WITH SOME GOOD OLE GLASS BOWL HOSPITALITY

When ever I say stuff like this... I bet scolded because its too obnoxious... 03-banghead
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And not to look too far ahead (we're fans, we can look ahead), there are already Cincinnati fans not giving us a chance. One even said they'll beat us like a rented mule.

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Cinci fans figure it's got to happen SOMETIME!
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(09-02-2014 10:46 AM)UofToledoFans Wrote:  I don't understand what he meant when he said our d line will get torn to shreds? Didn't our defense get to Mauk and their other qb a ton last year? Their tall receivers beat us... as well as UT turnovers giving their offense more opportunities. Our d line played well last season vs. Mizzou as well vs. UNH. We had 3 sacks as well as made their qb rush out of the pocket many times once not even being able to throw the ball to the line of scrimmage accounting for an intentional grounding penalty. He is even aware of the depth which he mentioned having 10 different guys play on the DL.
A strong suit for our D if you ask me? It isn't all on the linebackers that UNH couldn't run the ball.

You are right. Maty Mauk played for two snaps against the Rockets. He was sacked on both plays! For more info from this game and the upcoming game at the Glass Bowl check out My View article to be posted soon complete with exclusive photos of both sacks!
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