I kept track of this last year and I'll update each week again this year. This is through week 14:

ACC: 10-7 vs P5, 18-7 vs nonP5, 28-14 vs FBS, 14-0 vs FCS, 42-14 overall
AAC: 3-18 vs P5, 5-10 vs nonP5, 8-28 vs FBS, 8-0 vs FCS, 16-28 overall
XII: 4-6 vs P5, 11-1 vs nonP5, 15-7 vs FBS, 7-1 vs FCS, 22-8 overall
B1G: 6-11 vs P5, 25-3 vs nonP5, 31-14 vs FBS, 11-0 vs FCS, 42-14 overall
CUSA: 0-22 vs P5, 17-4 vs nonP5, 17-26 vs FBS, 7-2 vs FCS, 24-28 overall
MAC: 4-21 vs P5, 4-9 vs nonP5, 8-30 vs FBS, 11-2 vs FCS, 19-32 overall
MWC: 4-17 vs P5, 13-7 vs nonP5, 17-24 vs FBS, 10-0 vs FCS, 27-24 overall
PAC: 8-3 vs P5, 15-3 vs nonP5, 23-6 vs FBS, 8-0 vs FCS, 31-6 overall
SEC: 5-6 vs P5, 28-1 vs nonP5, 33-7 vs FBS, 14-0 vs FCS, 47-7 overall
SBC: 1-17 vs P5, 3-13 vs nonP5, 4-30 vs FBS, 7-2 vs FCS, 11-32 overall


P5 vs nonP5: 97-14

P5 at home: 73-8
Neutral site: 2-0
P5 on the road: 22-6

(08-31-2014 09:29 PM)CommuterBob Wrote:  I kept track of this last year and I'll update each week again this year. This is for week 1 (assuming the late night scores hold):

ACC: 1-2 vs P5, 2-1 vs nonP5, 3-3 vs FBS, 6-0 vs FCS, 9-3 overall
American: 1-2 vs P5, 0-2 vs nonP5, 1-4 vs FBS, 3-0 vs FCS, 4-4 overall
XII: 0-2 vs P5, 3-0 vs nonP5, 3-2 vs FBS, 3-1 vs FCS, 6-3 overall
B1G: 1-2 vs P5, 5-0 vs nonP5, 6-2 vs FBS, 6-0 vs FCS, 12-2 overall
CUSA: 0-5 vs P5, 5-0 vs nonP5, 5-5 vs FBS, 2-1 vs FCS, 7-6 overall
MAC: 0-2 vs P5, 0-2 vs nonP5, 0-4 vs FBS, 7-0 vs FCS, 7-4 overall
MWC: 1-5 vs P5, 0-1 vs nonP5, 1-6 vs FBS, 5-0 vs FCS, 6-6 overall
PAC: 2-1 vs P5, 3-1 vs nonP5, 5-2 vs FBS, 5-0 vs FCS, 10-2 overall
SEC: 3-0 vs P5, 2-1 vs nonP5, 5-1 vs FBS, 2-0 vs FCS, 7-1 overall
SBC: 1-2 vs P5, 0-1 vs nonP5, 1-3 vs FBS, 5-0 vs FCS, 6-3 overall


P5 vs nonP5: 17-3

P5 at home: 13-2
Neutral site: 2-0
P5 on the road: 2-1

You might want to update after tonight's games. Baylor and Tennessee both won OOC games impressively.

Big XII will find it difficult to get a team into the playoff if they don't win some P5 games. ACC and Big Ten only have one candidate so far themselves, but Big XII has none.

(08-31-2014 10:14 PM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  Big XII will find it difficult to get a team into the playoff if they don't win some P5 games. ACC and Big Ten only have one candidate so far themselves, but Big XII has none.

You've got to figure that the Oregon / Michigan State and Texas / BYU games will be important this weekend. Should the Horns drop the B.Y.U. game and beat Oklahoma then the Big 12 path gets really tough. If Michigan State drops the Oregon game and win the Big 10 they will be hoping for one of the other conference champs to pick up a second loss. But there are going to be many more of these types of games to come. What we ought to do is make a list of all of the P5 crossover games and keep a record.

(08-31-2014 10:11 PM)JRsec Wrote:  

(08-31-2014 09:29 PM)CommuterBob Wrote:  I kept track of this last year and I'll update each week again this year. This is for week 1 (assuming the late night scores hold):

ACC: 1-2 vs P5, 2-1 vs nonP5, 3-3 vs FBS, 6-0 vs FCS, 9-3 overall
American: 1-2 vs P5, 0-2 vs nonP5, 1-4 vs FBS, 3-0 vs FCS, 4-4 overall
XII: 0-2 vs P5, 3-0 vs nonP5, 3-2 vs FBS, 3-1 vs FCS, 6-3 overall
B1G: 1-2 vs P5, 5-0 vs nonP5, 6-2 vs FBS, 6-0 vs FCS, 12-2 overall
CUSA: 0-5 vs P5, 5-0 vs nonP5, 5-5 vs FBS, 2-1 vs FCS, 7-6 overall
MAC: 0-2 vs P5, 0-2 vs nonP5, 0-4 vs FBS, 7-0 vs FCS, 7-4 overall
MWC: 1-5 vs P5, 0-1 vs nonP5, 1-6 vs FBS, 5-0 vs FCS, 6-6 overall
PAC: 2-1 vs P5, 3-1 vs nonP5, 5-2 vs FBS, 5-0 vs FCS, 10-2 overall
SEC: 3-0 vs P5, 2-1 vs nonP5, 5-1 vs FBS, 2-0 vs FCS, 7-1 overall
SBC: 1-2 vs P5, 0-1 vs nonP5, 1-3 vs FBS, 5-0 vs FCS, 6-3 overall


P5 vs nonP5: 17-3

P5 at home: 13-2
Neutral site: 2-0
P5 on the road: 2-1

You might want to update after tonight's games. Baylor and Tennessee both won OOC games impressively.

Since both games were already in hand at the time I posted this, they were already included.

(08-31-2014 10:20 PM)JRsec Wrote:  You've got to figure that the Oregon / Michigan State and Texas / BYU games will be important this weekend. Should the Horns drop the B.Y.U. game and beat Oklahoma then the Big 12 path gets really tough. If Michigan State drops the Oregon game and win the Big 10 they will be hoping for one of the other conference champs to pick up a second loss. But there are going to be many more of these types of games to come. What we ought to do is make a list of all of the P5 crossover games and keep a record.

It appears that the only such games next weekend are the Oregon/Michigan State game and Virginia Tech @ Ohio State. I suppose you could also count the Michigan/Notre Dame game as well.

The following weekend has a number of OOC all-P5 games:
West Virginia/Maryland
Kansas/Duke
Arkansas/Texas Tech
Minnesota/TCU
Illinois/Washington
Iowa/Iowa State
Purdue/Notre Dame
USC/Boston College
Tennessee/Oklahoma
UCLA/Texas

(08-31-2014 10:51 PM)Zombiewoof Wrote:  

(08-31-2014 10:20 PM)JRsec Wrote:  You've got to figure that the Oregon / Michigan State and Texas / BYU games will be important this weekend. Should the Horns drop the B.Y.U. game and beat Oklahoma then the Big 12 path gets really tough. If Michigan State drops the Oregon game and win the Big 10 they will be hoping for one of the other conference champs to pick up a second loss. But there are going to be many more of these types of games to come. What we ought to do is make a list of all of the P5 crossover games and keep a record.

It appears that the only such games next weekend are the Oregon/Michigan State game and Virginia Tech @ Ohio State. I suppose you could also count the Michigan/Notre Dame game as well.

The following weekend has a number of OOC all-P5 games:
West Virginia/Maryland
Kansas/Duke
Arkansas/Texas Tech
Minnesota/TCU
Illinois/Washington
Iowa/Iowa State
Purdue/Notre Dame
USC/Boston College
Tennessee/Oklahoma
UCLA/Texas

I like calling big non conference wins poisoned pills. Last year the SEC was dealt one when Clemson beat Georgia. Anyone that Georgia defeated would then become suspect in the eyes of the BCS. Had Auburn's only loss been to Georgia instead of L.S.U. prior to the Championship game they would have had a very hard time getting in over Michigan State.

This year Wisconsin becomes the SEC's poisoned pill in the Big 10, Clemson turns into the poisoned pill in the ACC, and West Virginia now becomes one in the Big 12. An Oklahoma victory over Tennessee would make the Vols a poisoned pill in the SEC. That's why I listed B.Y.U. Any G5 victory makes the P5 school they beat a poisoned pill. And it has ramifications. If anyone beats Virginia Tech this year and they beat Ohio State it makes it that much harder for the Buckeyes to jump the ACC team that beats Virginia Tech. Since Iowa State lost to an FCS school should they beat Iowa that is going to be a blow that is extremely difficult to overcome for the Hawkeyes, but also a black mark against anyone in the Big 10 that they defeat. Last year every victory that Kansas State earned after losing to North Dakota State damaged the image of the Big 12. Should Vanderbilt or Iowa State achieve a significant win in conference that will do either the Big 12 or the SEC a lot of damage.

While bottom dwellers won't figure into this with a loss they could inflict serious damage to another conference with a significant win. It's really a much simpler way to gauge the 4 team selection process than many of the formulas used. And it makes keeping up with the games each week a bit more fun. Last year when L.S.U. defeated T.C.U. the pill was of no use because T.C.U. didn't pan out. But I like the chances of Wisconsin, Clemson, and West Virginia doing some damage in their conferences. Wisconsin however is only of any use against Nebraska or in the Big 10 championship game since they don't play: Michigan, Michigan State, Ohio State, or Penn State.

(08-31-2014 10:14 PM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  Big XII will find it difficult to get a team into the playoff if they don't win some P5 games. ACC and Big Ten only have one candidate so far themselves, but Big XII has none.

2 teams projected to be in the bottom half of the Big 12 lost 33-23 at #2 and 37-31 to #1 at a neutral site. These don't hurt the Big 12. If a Big 12 team goes unbeaten they will be in the playoffs. If they have 1 loss they will most likely be in the playoffs. If they have 2 losses, they probably won't be. Nothing has changed.

(08-31-2014 10:51 PM)Zombiewoof Wrote:  

(08-31-2014 10:20 PM)JRsec Wrote:  You've got to figure that the Oregon / Michigan State and Texas / BYU games will be important this weekend. Should the Horns drop the B.Y.U. game and beat Oklahoma then the Big 12 path gets really tough. If Michigan State drops the Oregon game and win the Big 10 they will be hoping for one of the other conference champs to pick up a second loss. But there are going to be many more of these types of games to come. What we ought to do is make a list of all of the P5 crossover games and keep a record.

It appears that the only such games next weekend are the Oregon/Michigan State game and Virginia Tech @ Ohio State. I suppose you could also count the Michigan/Notre Dame game as well.

The following weekend has a number of OOC all-P5 games:
West Virginia/Maryland
Kansas/Duke
Arkansas/Texas Tech
Minnesota/TCU
Illinois/Washington
Iowa/Iowa State
Purdue/Notre Dame
USC/Boston College
Tennessee/Oklahoma
UCLA/Texas

Next weekend is almost an "off" week for most of the top 25. Lots of FCS opponents.

(08-31-2014 11:31 PM)bullet Wrote:  

(08-31-2014 10:14 PM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  Big XII will find it difficult to get a team into the playoff if they don't win some P5 games. ACC and Big Ten only have one candidate so far themselves, but Big XII has none.

2 teams projected to be in the bottom half of the Big 12 lost 33-23 at #2 and 37-31 to #1 at a neutral site. These don't hurt the Big 12. If a Big 12 team goes unbeaten they will be in the playoffs. If they have 1 loss they will most likely be in the playoffs. If they have 2 losses, they probably won't be. Nothing has changed.

Was going to respond in a similar way. Also, I don't think Hokies' premise that a team has to have a P5 nonconference win to be a "candidate" is correct in absolute terms. Baylor, for example, cannot have a P5 nonconference win because of their schedule. They most certainly will be in if they go undefeated and depending on how everything else plays out, probably have a decent shot with one loss.

(09-01-2014 05:41 AM)Frog in the Kitchen Sink Wrote:  

(08-31-2014 11:31 PM)bullet Wrote:  

(08-31-2014 10:14 PM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  Big XII will find it difficult to get a team into the playoff if they don't win some P5 games. ACC and Big Ten only have one candidate so far themselves, but Big XII has none.

2 teams projected to be in the bottom half of the Big 12 lost 33-23 at #2 and 37-31 to #1 at a neutral site. These don't hurt the Big 12. If a Big 12 team goes unbeaten they will be in the playoffs. If they have 1 loss they will most likely be in the playoffs. If they have 2 losses, they probably won't be. Nothing has changed.

Was going to respond in a similar way. Also, I don't think Hokies' premise that a team has to have a P5 nonconference win to be a "candidate" is correct in absolute terms. Baylor, for example, cannot have a P5 nonconference win because of their schedule. They most certainly will be in if they go undefeated and depending on how everything else plays out, probably have a decent shot with one loss.

I believe JRSEC is correct. If Texas loses to UCLA and Oklahoma loses to Tennessee, it no longer matters what Baylor does at that point because the entire Big XII would be suspect in the eyes of the selection committee (and Baylor can't prove otherwise because it doesn't play any P5 teams out of conference).

(09-01-2014 07:00 AM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  

(09-01-2014 05:41 AM)Frog in the Kitchen Sink Wrote:  

(08-31-2014 11:31 PM)bullet Wrote:  

(08-31-2014 10:14 PM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  Big XII will find it difficult to get a team into the playoff if they don't win some P5 games. ACC and Big Ten only have one candidate so far themselves, but Big XII has none.

2 teams projected to be in the bottom half of the Big 12 lost 33-23 at #2 and 37-31 to #1 at a neutral site. These don't hurt the Big 12. If a Big 12 team goes unbeaten they will be in the playoffs. If they have 1 loss they will most likely be in the playoffs. If they have 2 losses, they probably won't be. Nothing has changed.

Was going to respond in a similar way. Also, I don't think Hokies' premise that a team has to have a P5 nonconference win to be a "candidate" is correct in absolute terms. Baylor, for example, cannot have a P5 nonconference win because of their schedule. They most certainly will be in if they go undefeated and depending on how everything else plays out, probably have a decent shot with one loss.

I believe JRSEC is correct. If Texas loses to UCLA and Oklahoma loses to Tennessee, it no longer matters what Baylor does at that point because the entire Big XII would be suspect in the eyes of the selection committee (and Baylor can't prove otherwise because it doesn't play any P5 teams out of conference).

It's not that simple. Sure how leagues do nonconference is important, but nothing is in a vacuum. The committee will take into account SOS, MOV, injuries, late performances, conference titles. There will be hundreds of other what-ifs. To boil the season down to a few games' results early in the season is too simplistic.

(09-01-2014 08:33 AM)Frog in the Kitchen Sink Wrote:  

(09-01-2014 07:00 AM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  

(09-01-2014 05:41 AM)Frog in the Kitchen Sink Wrote:  

(08-31-2014 11:31 PM)bullet Wrote:  

(08-31-2014 10:14 PM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  Big XII will find it difficult to get a team into the playoff if they don't win some P5 games. ACC and Big Ten only have one candidate so far themselves, but Big XII has none.

2 teams projected to be in the bottom half of the Big 12 lost 33-23 at #2 and 37-31 to #1 at a neutral site. These don't hurt the Big 12. If a Big 12 team goes unbeaten they will be in the playoffs. If they have 1 loss they will most likely be in the playoffs. If they have 2 losses, they probably won't be. Nothing has changed.

Was going to respond in a similar way. Also, I don't think Hokies' premise that a team has to have a P5 nonconference win to be a "candidate" is correct in absolute terms. Baylor, for example, cannot have a P5 nonconference win because of their schedule. They most certainly will be in if they go undefeated and depending on how everything else plays out, probably have a decent shot with one loss.

I believe JRSEC is correct. If Texas loses to UCLA and Oklahoma loses to Tennessee, it no longer matters what Baylor does at that point because the entire Big XII would be suspect in the eyes of the selection committee (and Baylor can't prove otherwise because it doesn't play any P5 teams out of conference).

It's not that simple. Sure how leagues do nonconference is important, but nothing is in a vacuum. The committee will take into account SOS, MOV, injuries, late performances, conference titles. There will be hundreds of other what-ifs. To boil the season down to a few games' results early in the season is too simplistic.

Not really. If you lose your key OOC games the perception that generates kills your image. If one of your schools loses to an FCS team then any win they have in conference only diminishes that perception more. What do you think SOS is built upon? With a greatly diminished conference image how much weight do you think your champion will have? Truthfully those OOC games are weighted more than they should be, but only because they are the only real, but extremely limited way to size up the conferences by comparison.

The Big 12 has some key games remaining and some risky games. Texas/BYU is risky (like last year). Auburn/Kansas State and Tennessee/Oklahoma are important but not totally crucial. For instance if Auburn and Oklahoma win everyone will say, "well that played out about right" and think nothing of it. If however a Kansas State or Tennessee victory happens then a major shift in perception could still occur. I doubt that Miss State/Texas Tech has a big impact either way. So far I agree that the ways in which OSU and WVU lost did not hurt the Big 12 and in the end could even be on the plus side depending on how things break. But make no mistake there is a lot riding on these big OOC games.

(09-01-2014 03:33 PM)JRsec Wrote:  

(09-01-2014 08:33 AM)Frog in the Kitchen Sink Wrote:  

(09-01-2014 07:00 AM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  

(09-01-2014 05:41 AM)Frog in the Kitchen Sink Wrote:  

(08-31-2014 11:31 PM)bullet Wrote:  2 teams projected to be in the bottom half of the Big 12 lost 33-23 at #2 and 37-31 to #1 at a neutral site. These don't hurt the Big 12. If a Big 12 team goes unbeaten they will be in the playoffs. If they have 1 loss they will most likely be in the playoffs. If they have 2 losses, they probably won't be. Nothing has changed.

Was going to respond in a similar way. Also, I don't think Hokies' premise that a team has to have a P5 nonconference win to be a "candidate" is correct in absolute terms. Baylor, for example, cannot have a P5 nonconference win because of their schedule. They most certainly will be in if they go undefeated and depending on how everything else plays out, probably have a decent shot with one loss.

I believe JRSEC is correct. If Texas loses to UCLA and Oklahoma loses to Tennessee, it no longer matters what Baylor does at that point because the entire Big XII would be suspect in the eyes of the selection committee (and Baylor can't prove otherwise because it doesn't play any P5 teams out of conference).

It's not that simple. Sure how leagues do nonconference is important, but nothing is in a vacuum. The committee will take into account SOS, MOV, injuries, late performances, conference titles. There will be hundreds of other what-ifs. To boil the season down to a few games' results early in the season is too simplistic.

Not really. If you lose your key OOC games the perception that generates kills your image. If one of your schools loses to an FCS team then any win they have in conference only diminishes that perception more. What do you think SOS is built upon? With a greatly diminished conference image how much weight do you think your champion will have? Truthfully those OOC games are weighted more than they should be, but only because they are the only real, but extremely limited way to size up the conferences by comparison.

The Big 12 has some key games remaining and some risky games. Texas/BYU is risky (like last year). Auburn/Kansas State and Tennessee/Oklahoma are important but not totally crucial. For instance if Auburn and Oklahoma win everyone will say, "well that played out about right" and think nothing of it. If however a Kansas State or Tennessee victory happens then a major shift in perception could still occur. I doubt that Miss State/Texas Tech has a big impact either way. So far I agree that the ways in which OSU and WVU lost did not hurt the Big 12 and in the end could even be on the plus side depending on how things break. But make no mistake there is a lot riding on these big OOC games.

I agree that nonconference performance in important, but individual game results typically get overstated by fans of opposing conferences. In the end, every league is going to have a few "whoops" losses to FCS/ lower FBS teams in nonconference play. Similarly all of the power leagues are going to have a few good wins to hang their hat on. Sure, if the Big 12 pulls an O-fer against tough competition in nonconference play that will hurt, but that would basically be unprecedented. Historically, if you look at the power conferences, even the worst down years in terms of nonconference play haven't been that bad- the #5 power conference typically still has a SOS in shouting distance of the the others and a few good nonconference wins. I think disparate league nonconference performance could be a big deal if you have a couple of a closely rated teams fighting for the 4th spot, but that's about it.

You want your conference-mates to win these P5 games if you're Baylor, else you risk being the Big XII champion "in a down year." It wouldn't necessarily block Baylor from the playoffs if undefeated, but if Baylor winds up 11-1, Big XII champ, and the rest of the conference puts up duds in the non-conference P5 games, no way are they getting in.

Quite honestly, I'm more worried for Florida State than I am Baylor. Wake's embarrassment, NCSU's, Syracuse's, GT's, and UNC's near embarrassments...FSU could run away with that conference, and maybe they should, but it forces FSU no slack in basically needing an undefeated season in order to participate in the playoffs.

A lot of B1G in P5 v P5 week 4
Indiana at Missouri
Auburn at KSU
Iowa at Pittsburg
Miami at Nebraska
Maryland at Syracuse
Utah at Michigan

Week 1 results for posterity:

(08-31-2014 09:29 PM)CommuterBob Wrote:  ACC: 1-2 vs P5, 2-1 vs nonP5, 3-3 vs FBS, 6-0 vs FCS, 9-3 overall
American: 1-2 vs P5, 0-2 vs nonP5, 1-4 vs FBS, 3-0 vs FCS, 4-4 overall
XII: 0-2 vs P5, 3-0 vs nonP5, 3-2 vs FBS, 3-1 vs FCS, 6-3 overall
B1G: 1-2 vs P5, 5-0 vs nonP5, 6-2 vs FBS, 6-0 vs FCS, 12-2 overall
CUSA: 0-5 vs P5, 5-0 vs nonP5, 5-5 vs FBS, 2-1 vs FCS, 7-6 overall
MAC: 0-2 vs P5, 0-2 vs nonP5, 0-4 vs FBS, 7-0 vs FCS, 7-4 overall
MWC: 1-5 vs P5, 0-1 vs nonP5, 1-6 vs FBS, 5-0 vs FCS, 6-6 overall
PAC: 2-1 vs P5, 3-1 vs nonP5, 5-2 vs FBS, 5-0 vs FCS, 10-2 overall
SEC: 3-0 vs P5, 3-1 vs nonP5, 6-1 vs FBS, 2-0 vs FCS, 8-1 overall
SBC: 1-2 vs P5, 0-1 vs nonP5, 1-3 vs FBS, 5-0 vs FCS, 6-3 overall


P5 vs nonP5: 17-3

P5 at home: 13-2
Neutral site: 2-0
P5 on the road: 2-1

Week 2 results:

ACC: 1-0 vs P5, 4-0 vs nonP5, 5-0 vs FBS, 6-0 vs FCS, 11-0 overall
American: 0-5 vs P5, 0-2 vs nonP5, 0-7 vs FBS, 2-0 vs FCS, 2-7 overall
XII: 0-0 vs P5, 2-1 vs nonP5, 2-1 vs FBS, 4-0 vs FCS, 6-1 overall
B1G: 0-3 vs P5, 5-2 vs nonP5, 5-5 vs FBS, 3-0 vs FCS, 8-5 overall
CUSA: 0-7 vs P5, 2-0 vs nonP5, 2-7 vs FBS, 3-0 vs FCS, 5-7 overall
MAC: 2-6 vs P5, 0-2 vs nonP5, 2-8 vs FBS, 1-1 vs FCS, 3-9 overall
MWC: 1-5 vs P5, 0-0 vs nonP5, 1-5 vs FBS, 2-0 vs FCS, 3-5 overall
PAC: 1-0 vs P5, 6-1 vs nonP5, 7-1 vs FBS, 2-0 vs FCS, 9-1 overall
SEC: 0-0 vs P5, 8-0 vs nonP5, 8-0 vs FBS, 3-0 vs FCS, 11-0 overall
SBC: 0-2 vs P5, 1-1 vs nonP5, 1-3 vs FBS, 2-0 vs FCS, 3-3 overall


P5 vs nonP5: 25-4

P5 at home: 15-3
Neutral site: 0-0
P5 on the road: 10-1

(08-31-2014 09:29 PM)CommuterBob Wrote:  I kept track of this last year and I'll update each week again this year. This is through week 2:

ACC: 2-2 vs P5, 6-1 vs nonP5, 8-3 vs FBS, 12-0 vs FCS, 20-3 overall
American: 1-7 vs P5, 0-4 vs nonP5, 1-11 vs FBS, 5-0 vs FCS, 6-11 overall
XII: 0-2 vs P5, 5-1 vs nonP5, 5-3 vs FBS, 7-1 vs FCS, 12-4 overall
B1G: 1-5 vs P5, 10-2 vs nonP5, 11-7 vs FBS, 9-0 vs FCS, 20-7 overall
CUSA: 0-12 vs P5, 7-0 vs nonP5, 7-12 vs FBS, 5-1 vs FCS, 12-13 overall
MAC: 2-8 vs P5, 0-4 vs nonP5, 2-12 vs FBS, 8-1 vs FCS, 10-13 overall
MWC: 2-10 vs P5, 0-1 vs nonP5, 2-11 vs FBS, 7-0 vs FCS, 9-11 overall
PAC: 3-1 vs P5, 9-2 vs nonP5, 12-3 vs FBS, 7-0 vs FCS, 19-3 overall
SEC: 3-0 vs P5, 11-1 vs nonP5, 14-1 vs FBS, 5-0 vs FCS, 19-1 overall
SBC: 1-4 vs P5, 1-2 vs nonP5, 2-6 vs FBS, 7-0 vs FCS, 9-6 overall


P5 vs nonP5: 42-7

P5 at home: 28-5
Neutral site: 2-0
P5 on the road: 12-2

Posterity

You're falling down on the job, Bob. But perhaps the B1G's futility has gotten you down. The Pac and ACC took a big hit yesterday too.

Although I must say that BC looked great last night. Either that, or USC looked very bad. It looked like Lane Kiffin was still their coach.