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Top of SEC looks weak!
Alabama in a death struggle with WV?

Auburn fighting for its life against Arkansas?

This isn't your two-year older brother's dominant SEC.

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wvu IS TRYING to lose this game
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(08-30-2014 05:31 PM)john01992 Wrote:  wvu IS TRYING to lose this game

It apears that way. Blowing chance after chance.

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Totally forgot that Lane Kiffin is the new OC at Alabama. That guy keeps getting premier jobs.
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I like his play calling. Simms just isn't executing.
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(08-30-2014 05:22 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  Alabama in a death struggle with WV?

Auburn fighting for its life against Arkansas?

This isn't your two-year older brother's dominant SEC.

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Not as weak as USF looks....
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Georgia looks pretty good.
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The game was a lot closer than the score would suggest.
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And people thought I was crazy when I predicted 0 SEC schools to reach the four team playoff.

Then again, we can't judge a league after one week of action.
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(08-30-2014 09:42 PM)ClairtonPanther Wrote:  And people thought I was crazy when I predicted 0 SEC schools to reach the four team playoff.

Then again, we can't judge a league after one week of action.

Too early to predict but watching the LSU vs Wisconsin game, it is pretty obvious that the SEC is given far too much credit each year due to previous seasons.

First South Carolina and now LSU.

Actually I think a stronger across the board SEC is more likely to get blanked in the playoff than a weaker SEC. A weaker SEC means it is more likely for one of the teams to run the table or go with just one loss. A more equalized SEC means the nightmare scenario could happen for the SEC where teams knock each other off, leading to having every team end with 2 or more losses.
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(08-30-2014 09:42 PM)ClairtonPanther Wrote:  And people thought I was crazy when I predicted 0 SEC schools to reach the four team playoff.

Then again, we can't judge a league after one week of action.

You shouldn't judge them by halftime either. Auburn's Defense which was non existent last year, shut Arkansas out in the second half. Georgia's defense also stepped it up in the second half. In the first game of a season guys that is called making adjustments since every school changes approaches in the off season.

Alabama looked lethargic throughout and on both sides of the ball. L.S.U. so for is horrid. There's your legitimate beef.

As far as the rest goes Missouri and Kentucky beat lesser opponents. Ole Miss woke up in the second half. A&M was much better than anyone thought they could be after their personnel losses from last year and South Carolina missed Conner Shaw and Clowney much more than they knew.

Florida and Tennessee we don't know about yet. Mississippi State did just fine against an in state rival and Vanderbilt wreaked as we all know.

But let's talk about some of the other P5 conferences shall we.

The ACC has two standard bearers. The Noles didn't look like a national champion against a game Cowboys squad and Clemson laid an egg as far as title hopes go. Who besides Clemson and F.S.U. had the guts to take on a decent school in week #1? Virginia and they lost a close one to U.C.L.A. It sure wasn't U.N.C. vs Liberty! N.C. State vs Georgia Southern? That whopping big victory for Syracuse? Wake losing to U.L.M.? If there was a big loser in prestige in week #1 it was the ACC. But to even say that is a gross overstatement. I'm sure F.S.U. will improve just like Ohio State and Alabama.

The Big 12 rolled at the top and stumbled at the bottom and played competitively in the middle.

The Big 10 had Whisky and Sparty looking strong and Ohio State really playing poorly. Everyone else played well below their strength except for Rutgers which did well with a school of relatively equal standing from the PAC.

I haven't seen enough of the PAC to make a call. U.C.L.A.'s win could be great, or weak. We won't know until we know what Virginia has. Washington was struggling with Hawaii. The Arizonas beat up on less viable squads and U.S.C. devastated Fresno so it's hard to say.

What I have seen so far this season is typical first game stuff. We really won't know who is good or not for a few weeks. No conference looked dominant and each conference had some good wins and in each conference we have some new faces making early noise. But if the standard bearers of the SEC are Alabama and Auburn well both won. If was South Carolina and Georgia in the East then the Gamecocks lost only to a conference school and Georgia looked good. If for the Big 10 it was the usual suspects then Ohio State, Penn State, Michigan, Michigan State, and Nebraska all won and at the time of this writing Wisconsin holds a 13 point lead on L.S.U.. So the Big 10 is fine. The Big 12 had Oklahoma and Texas winning big and Oklahoma State giving #1 all they wanted. So no surprises there either. Oregon, U.S.C. and U.C.L.A. all won and I bet Washington pulls it out. So the PAC is intact.

Only the ACC lost one of its standard bearers in an OOC game while also having their top school look very beatable in week one (however last year it was the SEC in this position due to Clemson's win and yet the SEC still put a school in the finals), but then it is week one. So cut the crap and the trolling and wait until we are in about week #5 to make your declarations of doom and gloom and thump your chests with "I told you so's". This was a very typical first week for both the P5 and G5.

Well L.S.U. 28 Wisconsin 24. That's L.S.U. for you. They are the most unpredictable and bizarre football team in the SEC. Wisconsin still looked good. I just hope for the Badger's that their injuries aren't too serious.
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Wow my friend... I've been one of the few people on here that's pumped up the SEC the past 5-7 years on this site. I just feel they're due for a down year. Even I said that we can't judge any league based on one week of action.
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(08-30-2014 11:12 PM)ClairtonPanther Wrote:  Wow my friend... I've been one of the few people on here that's pumped up the SEC the past 5-7 years on this site. I just feel they're due for a down year. Even I said that we can't judge any league based on one week of action.

C.P. I just tagged onto your last post. The comments were directed to the tenor of the thread in general more than to your remarks. I just kind of get tired of the chirpiness. Most times I want to ask these posters if they ever played the game. My suspicion is that many of them are pencil pushers and slide-rule jockeys (dated terminology there) who are living vicariously through the accomplishments, or lack thereof, of their associations. I've always found that those guys who spent time playing are much more reasonable to talk to about sports because they know the joy of simply playing and while they may not like a loss, they don't take it personally either.
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(08-30-2014 05:22 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  This isn't your two-year older brother's dominant SEC.

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LSU wins, end of the day SEC has 1 OOC loss this weekend- Vandy vs Temple. That's it. 2 top 25 opponents and they would have won both of them. And that would be the only 2 top 25 losses ooc in week 1.

Like what was said before- the ACC looked really weak. Clemson lost by 24 and FSU barely held on vs Oklahoma St.

Big Ten end of the day- 6 FCS wins (of 12 total), and really only 2 wins vs teams that got any votes in the polls this week(Navy and UCF). If they had done any less, it'd be a major concern quite frankly. Next week reality check for Big Ten with Ohio St, Michigan St, and Michigan playing good teams.
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So every SEC team wins OOC except Vandy with a new coach, but you chose to jump on that horse on Thursday. Idiot. SEC hater gonna hate...
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(08-30-2014 11:56 PM)LSUtah Wrote:  So every SEC team wins OOC and you rode the Vandy horse early. Idiot. SEC hater gonna hate...[/b]

It really did turn in to a dominant day for the SEC:

Win over ranked, B1G Wisconsin
Win over ranked, ACC Clemson
Win over Big 12 West Virginia

And other SEC teams went 3-0 vs G5 competition.

Have to admit, 6-0 OOC is a pretty impressive day. 07-coffee3
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(08-30-2014 11:43 PM)stever20 Wrote:  LSU wins, end of the day SEC has 1 OOC loss this weekend- Vandy vs Temple. That's it. 2 top 25 opponents and they would have won both of them. And that would be the only 2 top 25 losses ooc in week 1.

Like what was said before- the ACC looked really weak. Clemson lost by 24 and FSU barely held on vs Oklahoma St.

Yes, the ACC looked very soft this opening weekend. Losses by Virginia, Clemson, and Wake, and North Carolina State and Syracuse squeaked by really lousy opponents.
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(08-31-2014 12:01 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  
(08-30-2014 11:56 PM)LSUtah Wrote:  So every SEC team wins OOC and you rode the Vandy horse early. Idiot. SEC hater gonna hate...[/b]

It really did turn in to a dominant day for the SEC:

Win over ranked, B1G Wisconsin
Win over ranked, ACC Clemson
Win over Big 12 West Virginia

And other SEC teams went 3-0 vs G5 competition.

Have to admit, 6-0 OOC is a pretty impressive day. 07-coffee3

actually it's only 5-1 OOC.
Georgia over Clemson
Vandy loses to Temple
Alabama over West Va
LSU over Wisconsin
Mississippi over Boise St
Miss St over Southern Miss

still got 1 left tomorrow with Tennessee and Utah St

Had 2 other FCS games and then the 2 conference games. Florida's game got ppd.
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I have stated on the SEC board that my preseason prediction was for every SEC school to have two losses. That statement says nothing about the relative strength of any other team in the nation, but rather is an observation of several factors.

1. Most SEC schools are replacing their starting quarterback. Rarely have I seen as many top teams having to replace their signal caller. Given the inexperience of the replacements, I have assumed that there will be some unexpected losses due to the lack of experience at quarterback. Each of the teams mentioned as having trouble today (with the exception of Auburn) started a new quarterback.

2. I believe the SEC has more very good teams than anyone, but I'm not sure that any of them are truly great. We shall see. But when you have as many very good teams as the SEC has, the opportunity for upsets increases.

3. Strength of schedule. In spite of some of the comments of the SEC haters on here, playing an SEC schedule is incredibly difficult and getting through it unscathed is nearly unimaginable. Objectively look at Auburn's schedule and tell me how you think any other team in the nation would fare. Do you even think mighty Florida State, Ohio State or Oregon could run that gauntlet without a stumble? It's possible, but I don't believe likely.

Given these factors, among others, I just think it will be a possibility that each team will have at least two losses. Does that make the SEC less of a conference or "overrated?" Hardly. In fact, I believe the SEC West Division is stronger than any other conference's top seven teams. Heck, it might be better than the top seven non-SEC schools in the country. Who knows? Let's let them play the games before we toss dirt on anyone. Alabama came back to win (although if West Virginia had a second WR who could catch, they wouldn't have), Auburn blew Arkansas out in the second half, Georgia scored 31 unanswered points in pulling away from Clemson, LSU looked dominant in the second half in beating Wisconsin and Ole Miss blew open a close game with Boise State with a huge fourth quarter. If these SEC schools all play consistently like they did in the second half of their games, I could be wrong about there not being any great team in the conference.
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