Quote:NEW YORK — Airline passengers have come to expect a tiny escape from the confined space of today's packed planes: the ability to recline their seat a few inches. When one passenger was denied that bit of personal space Sunday, it led to a heated argument and the unscheduled landing of their plane.
The fight started on a Denver-bound United Airlines flight because one passenger in the economy-plus seating was using the Knee Defender, a $21.95 gadget that attaches to a passenger's tray table and prevents the person in front of them from reclining.
The Federal Aviation Administration leaves it up to individual airlines to set rules about the device. United said it prohibits use of the device, like all major U.S. airlines.
The dispute on Flight 1462 from Newark, N.J., escalated to the point where the plane decided to divert to Chicago's O'Hare International Airport, according to Transportation Security Administration spokesman Ross Feinstein.
Chicago police and TSA officers met the flight, spoke to the passengers — a man and a woman, both 48 — and "deemed it a customer service issue," Feinstein said.
The plane then continued to Denver without them, arriving 1 hour and 38 minutes late, according to the airline's website.
RE: Denver flight diverted after fight breaks out over "Knee Defender"
I can empathize with the guy behind the seat. It's hard for us tall folks to fit in those seats. When someone reclines it can make for a miserable flight. I'd never use one of those "Knee Defender" devices but I have put my knees up. Sooner or later the person in front figures it out.
RE: Denver flight diverted after fight breaks out over "Knee Defender"
(08-26-2014 11:53 AM)VA49er Wrote: I can empathize with the guy behind the seat. It's hard for us tall folks to fit in those seats. When someone reclines it can make for a miserable flight. I'd never use one of those "Knee Defender" devices but I have put my knees up. Sooner or later the person in front figures it out.
+1
I try not to be a jerk about it, but I do get irritated when the person in front of you just plows into your knees.
RE: Denver flight diverted after fight breaks out over "Knee Defender"
I have long legs and used to travel more often (usually getting my first-class upgrade), and it sucked when someone would just plow back into you. I had one guy that rocked the row 1 first class chair so hard, it broke and fell into my lap. I think part of the problem is airlines squishing people and part of it is common courtesy...you can turn around make sure someone doesn't have their laptop out or has long legs before you just plow your seat back.
RE: Denver flight diverted after fight breaks out over "Knee Defender"
(08-26-2014 10:22 PM)smn1256 Wrote: If a flight gets diverted because of an incident in the air then someone needs to be arrested, be it the passengers or the pilots.
You can't get arrested unless you break a law. The new "rules" put the flight crew in charge of a lot of things and they can decide to divert to drop off "unruly" passengers, even if they've broken no laws.
RE: Denver flight diverted after fight breaks out over "Knee Defender"
I was always taught to ask the person behind me if it was alright to recline my chair. Guess people just don't have any common decency to be polite and look out for others as well anymore.
RE: Denver flight diverted after fight breaks out over "Knee Defender"
(08-26-2014 09:44 PM)Fo Shizzle Wrote: Im for eliminating ALL reclining seats....period in Coach. From what is being reported?....that is the coming trend.
RE: Denver flight diverted after fight breaks out over "Knee Defender"
(08-26-2014 10:36 PM)Doctor Krieger Wrote:
(08-26-2014 09:44 PM)Fo Shizzle Wrote: Im for eliminating ALL reclining seats....period in Coach. From what is being reported?....that is the coming trend.
The future of airlines...
That will never happen as long as Congress flies home using commercial airlines.
RE: Denver flight diverted after fight breaks out over "Knee Defender"
(08-26-2014 10:26 PM)pharaoh0 Wrote:
(08-26-2014 10:22 PM)smn1256 Wrote: If a flight gets diverted because of an incident in the air then someone needs to be arrested, be it the passengers or the pilots.
You can't get arrested unless you break a law. The new "rules" put the flight crew in charge of a lot of things and they can decide to divert to drop off "unruly" passengers, even if they've broken no laws.
Causing a disturbance on a plane is a crime. So is lying about one.
RE: Denver flight diverted after fight breaks out over "Knee Defender"
(08-26-2014 09:41 PM)Smaug Wrote: If United prohibits it, why did it escalate to this point? Why didn't someone tell the person with it to put it away?
I think that they did.
I would have slap the **** out of knee defender dude.