A look at how both programs have changed since they got their invitations to their respective conferences.

On October 28, 2011, UofL’s athletics world was turned upside down as WVU won the two-horse Big 12 race and got what most thought was the last ticket to “Big Boy” power conference football. The networks wanted WVU over UofL primarily because of football, so the ‘eers got the call. After a messy Big East divorce, WVU had to pay the league $20 million to leave and become a member of the Big 12 by July 1, 2012. West Virginia started off like gang busters in early 2012, going 5-0 and ranked in the top 10 after beating Texas and Baylor. However, WVU fell off the map losing six of their last eight games to finish 7-6. This past season they were even worse, failing to secure a winning season at 4-8.

In the middle of WVU’s meltdown, Louisville got a much needed and well deserved break. The Big Ten was expanding again and took Maryland from the ACC. Tom Jurich and President James Ramsey went all in for the ACC in hopes of an invite and on November 28, 2012 – one year and one month from WVU’s Big 12 invite – UofL got their golden ticket from the ACC. That officially kicked off the Year of the Cardinal as UofL won big in football, men’s and women’s hoops, and in baseball. Our friends from Morgantown? Well, let’s just say that they haven’t had much success in pretty much anything outside of their women’s basketball team going 30-5 last season. (However, their rifle team is supposedly elite on an annual basis.) UofL fans would like to thank the Big 12 for their small vision for the future. Their lack of leadership made it possible for the ACC to act....

Read it all HERE.

The ACC definitely made the right call, and the Big 12 the wrong one.

Good taking-a-sh*t reading. I'll bring my laptop to the john in a bit.

I'm happy. We had Zero recruiting in the Texahoma area and not sure how that would have worked out in years to come. I feel WVU will bounce back in a few Years but it will require new recruiting bases . Louisville is No stranger to the ACC as in the past been in various conferences with many ACC schools as well as facing most in regular season competition or playoffs many times. Easy road trips to and from most schools. WVU not as lucky but had WVU stayed in Big East , They or Us would have made trips to Texas or Oklahoma with the additions currently there in the AAC .

(08-24-2014 10:03 PM)Ole Blue Wrote:  The ACC definitely made the right call, and the Big 12 the wrong one.

What choice did the ACC have?

And while UL has more revenue due to their basketball arena setup, WVU likely would've fared well in the ACC also. No argument that UL, monetarily, is better positioned for the future though.

I think UL would've even struggled somewhat with the Big 12 if they were the only eastern member. That's why most FSU fans that were interested in the Big 12 were also saying they'd want at least 2 of Clemson, GT and UM to go with.

(08-24-2014 10:23 PM)Marge Schott Wrote:  

(08-24-2014 10:03 PM)Ole Blue Wrote:  The ACC definitely made the right call, and the Big 12 the wrong one.

What choice did the ACC have?

And while UL has more revenue due to their basketball arena setup, WVU likely would've fared well in the ACC also. No argument that UL, monetarily, is better positioned for the future though.

I think UL would've even struggled somewhat with the Big 12 if they were the only eastern member. That's why most FSU fans that were interested in the Big 12 were also saying they'd want at least 2 of Clemson, GT and UM to go with.

Not doing something stupid like the Big 12 did in recruiting WVU instead of someone who fits in better. That would have been like the ACC recruiting UConn or Cincy, two moderately OK overall athletics programs (UConn's bball balances its horrific football and Cincy's basketball is decent and their football isn't too bad either).

(08-25-2014 09:38 PM)Ole Blue Wrote:  

(08-24-2014 10:23 PM)Marge Schott Wrote:  

(08-24-2014 10:03 PM)Ole Blue Wrote:  The ACC definitely made the right call, and the Big 12 the wrong one.

What choice did the ACC have?

And while UL has more revenue due to their basketball arena setup, WVU likely would've fared well in the ACC also. No argument that UL, monetarily, is better positioned for the future though.

I think UL would've even struggled somewhat with the Big 12 if they were the only eastern member. That's why most FSU fans that were interested in the Big 12 were also saying they'd want at least 2 of Clemson, GT and UM to go with.

Not doing something stupid like the Big 12 did in recruiting WVU instead of someone who fits in better. That would have been like the ACC recruiting UConn or Cincy, two moderately OK overall athletics programs (UConn's bball balances its horrific football and Cincy's basketball is decent and their football isn't too bad either).

Big XII had 3 realistic options - BYU, Louisville, and WVU - they chose WVU

ACC had 3 realistic options - UConn, Louisville, and Cincinnati - they chose Louisville.

Given the options, the ACC made the better decision, IMO.

i always thought that the big 12-4+2 should have invited byu to get to 10 teams (and just make it work with no sunday games). it would have made a lot more sense.

(08-26-2014 08:25 AM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  

(08-25-2014 09:38 PM)Ole Blue Wrote:  

(08-24-2014 10:23 PM)Marge Schott Wrote:  

(08-24-2014 10:03 PM)Ole Blue Wrote:  The ACC definitely made the right call, and the Big 12 the wrong one.

What choice did the ACC have?

And while UL has more revenue due to their basketball arena setup, WVU likely would've fared well in the ACC also. No argument that UL, monetarily, is better positioned for the future though.

I think UL would've even struggled somewhat with the Big 12 if they were the only eastern member. That's why most FSU fans that were interested in the Big 12 were also saying they'd want at least 2 of Clemson, GT and UM to go with.

Not doing something stupid like the Big 12 did in recruiting WVU instead of someone who fits in better. That would have been like the ACC recruiting UConn or Cincy, two moderately OK overall athletics programs (UConn's bball balances its horrific football and Cincy's basketball is decent and their football isn't too bad either).

Big XII had 3 realistic options - BYU, Louisville, and WVU - they chose WVU

ACC had 3 realistic options - UConn, Louisville, and Cincinnati - they chose Louisville.

Given the options, the ACC made the better decision, IMO.

Just thankful that UofL ended up in the ACC...Game Week....The U vs. L1C4....the continued Beatdown from the Russell Athletic Bowl...

UL still hasn't played a game in the ACC yet. Wait 2 years and see where your respective programs are.

(08-26-2014 09:26 AM)mlb Wrote:  UL still hasn't played a game in the ACC yet. Wait 2 years and see where your respective programs are.

Basketball no real worries...11 Final Fours and 3 National Titles...Rick Pitino as the Head Coach and one the verge of Back to Back Top 5 Recruiting Classes in Basketball-(2013-2014 and 2014-2015) and coming from the Old BIG EAST with Current ACC-(Syracuse, Pitt & Notre Dame)...Football wait and see...

(08-26-2014 08:42 AM)ren.hoek Wrote:  i always thought that the big 12-4+2 should have invited byu to get to 10 teams (and just make it work with no sunday games). it would have made a lot more sense.

(08-26-2014 08:25 AM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  

(08-25-2014 09:38 PM)Ole Blue Wrote:  

(08-24-2014 10:23 PM)Marge Schott Wrote:  

(08-24-2014 10:03 PM)Ole Blue Wrote:  The ACC definitely made the right call, and the Big 12 the wrong one.

What choice did the ACC have?

And while UL has more revenue due to their basketball arena setup, WVU likely would've fared well in the ACC also. No argument that UL, monetarily, is better positioned for the future though.

I think UL would've even struggled somewhat with the Big 12 if they were the only eastern member. That's why most FSU fans that were interested in the Big 12 were also saying they'd want at least 2 of Clemson, GT and UM to go with.

Not doing something stupid like the Big 12 did in recruiting WVU instead of someone who fits in better. That would have been like the ACC recruiting UConn or Cincy, two moderately OK overall athletics programs (UConn's bball balances its horrific football and Cincy's basketball is decent and their football isn't too bad either).

Big XII had 3 realistic options - BYU, Louisville, and WVU - they chose WVU

ACC had 3 realistic options - UConn, Louisville, and Cincinnati - they chose Louisville.

Given the options, the ACC made the better decision, IMO.

"What choice did the ACC have?"
Many Louisville fans are aware that we would not have been the first choice of the ACC had they had other options beside the three mentioned. We are not a coveted addition to the ACC but rather a necessary replacement. Many of you would have preferred that Maryland had not left and you with no other choices but the three mentioned above.