(08-24-2014 12:15 PM)pharaoh0 Wrote:  

(08-24-2014 12:10 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(08-24-2014 12:08 PM)pharaoh0 Wrote:  Okay everyone....let's read the article and analyze the STUPIDITY of the author:

Quote:Applicants have to answer three questions about drug use to get benefits, and if they answer yes to any of them, they get referred to urine testing....

In the month since it began, six people submitted to a drug test and just one tested positive out of the 812 people who applied. Four were turned down for benefits because they refused to participate in drug screening.

In other words, of the 812 applicants, we know 10 people were dumb enough to answer the questions truthfully, given their usage of drugs. And of those, four of them knew what the test would say and one of them thought they could beat the test.

So, unless you're dumb enough to affirmatively answer the drug questions, you are not asked to take the test.

The author simply explained the system...I believe you mean the stupidity of the drug testing system.

Nah...I mean the stupidity of the author and the progressives/liberals that skew information to spread mistruths.

The next step is just to adopt the same system as public housing, based on reasonable suspicion. Anyone being honest with themselves knows how much drug usage goes on with welfare recipients. Now, we just need a system that will catch them and pass legal muster...because I refuse to see my tax dollars go to people that can afford dope, crack, and meth.

800 tested...1 failed.

They tried it in FL...

4,086 tested...108 failed.

Your ASSumption doesn't hold water.

(08-24-2014 12:19 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(08-24-2014 12:17 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  

(08-24-2014 11:58 AM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(08-24-2014 11:57 AM)Smaug Wrote:  25% of the money allotted for actual recipients, with 75% going to pencil-pushers?

You're right, Drew. A private charity operating like this would end up behind bars.

Sounds like our health system...more paper-pushers than doctors.

And the biggest reason for all the paper-pushers? Tons of paperwork created by the nanny state government.

I know, I blame our single payer system...oh wait, we don't have one of those...maybe we should.

We do have Obamcare. Blame that. Its what we have. Man up. (Or boy up)

(08-24-2014 11:57 AM)Smaug Wrote:  25% of the money allotted for actual recipients, with 75% going to pencil-pushers?

You're right, Drew. A private charity operating like this would end up behind bars.

Smaug, there is probably MORE abuse in charities than in the government.

(08-24-2014 12:27 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:  

(08-24-2014 12:19 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(08-24-2014 12:17 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  

(08-24-2014 11:58 AM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(08-24-2014 11:57 AM)Smaug Wrote:  25% of the money allotted for actual recipients, with 75% going to pencil-pushers?

You're right, Drew. A private charity operating like this would end up behind bars.

Sounds like our health system...more paper-pushers than doctors.

And the biggest reason for all the paper-pushers? Tons of paperwork created by the nanny state government.

I know, I blame our single payer system...oh wait, we don't have one of those...maybe we should.

We do have Obamcare. Blame that. Its what we have. Man up. (Or boy up)

Yes, the socialist, commie Obamacare...that gives us an exchange to shop lots of PRIVATE health insurance plans.

Worst Commie EVER!

(08-24-2014 12:12 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(08-24-2014 12:11 PM)smn1256 Wrote:  

(08-24-2014 11:29 AM)Ole Blue Wrote:  http://thinkprogress.org/economy/2014/08...-positive/

Out of over 800 tested in my great state of TN, only one has tested positive...

1. This proves that getting people to take drug tests to get Welfare actually works in getting them to stop taking drugs.

2. So one person failed. How many men around the country got Obamacare mammograms?

So your contention is they were all on drugs before...then they found out about the questions...and they all decided to stop drugs?



Wow.

Where did I say they were all on drugs? Don't you feel better knowing these people passed a health test? You do approve of health tests like blood pressure, cholesterol, etc, don't you?

(08-24-2014 12:29 PM)smn1256 Wrote:  

(08-24-2014 12:12 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(08-24-2014 12:11 PM)smn1256 Wrote:  

(08-24-2014 11:29 AM)Ole Blue Wrote:  http://thinkprogress.org/economy/2014/08...-positive/

Out of over 800 tested in my great state of TN, only one has tested positive...

1. This proves that getting people to take drug tests to get Welfare actually works in getting them to stop taking drugs.

2. So one person failed. How many men around the country got Obamacare mammograms?

So your contention is they were all on drugs before...then they found out about the questions...and they all decided to stop drugs?



Wow.

Where did I say they were all on drugs? Don't you feel better knowing these people passed a health test? You do approve of health tests like blood pressure, cholesterol, etc, don't you?

A piss test for drugs doesn't tell you jack or s$&t about blood pressure or cholesterol.

(08-24-2014 12:29 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(08-24-2014 12:27 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:  

(08-24-2014 12:19 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(08-24-2014 12:17 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  

(08-24-2014 11:58 AM)UofMemphis Wrote:  Sounds like our health system...more paper-pushers than doctors.

And the biggest reason for all the paper-pushers? Tons of paperwork created by the nanny state government.

I know, I blame our single payer system...oh wait, we don't have one of those...maybe we should.

We do have Obamcare. Blame that. Its what we have. Man up. (Or boy up)

Yes, the socialist, commie Obamacare...that gives us an exchange to shop lots of PRIVATE health insurance plans.

Worst Commie EVER!

Really, so two, sometimes one choice is LOTS OF CHOICES?

(08-24-2014 12:22 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(08-24-2014 12:15 PM)pharaoh0 Wrote:  

(08-24-2014 12:10 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(08-24-2014 12:08 PM)pharaoh0 Wrote:  Okay everyone....let's read the article and analyze the STUPIDITY of the author:

Quote:Applicants have to answer three questions about drug use to get benefits, and if they answer yes to any of them, they get referred to urine testing....

In the month since it began, six people submitted to a drug test and just one tested positive out of the 812 people who applied. Four were turned down for benefits because they refused to participate in drug screening.

In other words, of the 812 applicants, we know 10 people were dumb enough to answer the questions truthfully, given their usage of drugs. And of those, four of them knew what the test would say and one of them thought they could beat the test.

So, unless you're dumb enough to affirmatively answer the drug questions, you are not asked to take the test.

The author simply explained the system...I believe you mean the stupidity of the drug testing system.

Nah...I mean the stupidity of the author and the progressives/liberals that skew information to spread mistruths.

The next step is just to adopt the same system as public housing, based on reasonable suspicion. Anyone being honest with themselves knows how much drug usage goes on with welfare recipients. Now, we just need a system that will catch them and pass legal muster...because I refuse to see my tax dollars go to people that can afford dope, crack, and meth.

800 tested...1 failed.

They tried it in FL...

4,086 tested...108 failed.

Your ASSumption doesn't hold water.

And, that is a lie. Not even your propaganda says that. So, I suspect your Florida numbers are just as suspect.

Before you start showing how ignorant you are by cursing and lying, you need to get your numbers correct and then make a reasoned argument.

Which one of you moonbat liberals wants to bet me a significant sum of money that random drug testing, without prescreening questions, would result in more than 1 in 800 tests being positive?

(08-24-2014 12:32 PM)pharaoh0 Wrote:  

(08-24-2014 12:22 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(08-24-2014 12:15 PM)pharaoh0 Wrote:  

(08-24-2014 12:10 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(08-24-2014 12:08 PM)pharaoh0 Wrote:  Okay everyone....let's read the article and analyze the STUPIDITY of the author:


In other words, of the 812 applicants, we know 10 people were dumb enough to answer the questions truthfully, given their usage of drugs. And of those, four of them knew what the test would say and one of them thought they could beat the test.

So, unless you're dumb enough to affirmatively answer the drug questions, you are not asked to take the test.

The author simply explained the system...I believe you mean the stupidity of the drug testing system.

Nah...I mean the stupidity of the author and the progressives/liberals that skew information to spread mistruths.

The next step is just to adopt the same system as public housing, based on reasonable suspicion. Anyone being honest with themselves knows how much drug usage goes on with welfare recipients. Now, we just need a system that will catch them and pass legal muster...because I refuse to see my tax dollars go to people that can afford dope, crack, and meth.

800 tested...1 failed.

They tried it in FL...

4,086 tested...108 failed.

Your ASSumption doesn't hold water.

And, that is a lie. Not even your propaganda says that. So, I suspect your Florida numbers are just as suspect.

Before you start showing how ignorant you are by cursing and lying, you need to get your numbers correct and then make a reasoned argument.

I wouldn't want to violate your virgin ears, so I'll just post facts.

http://www.tampabay.com/news/courts/flor...ws/1225721

(08-24-2014 12:19 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(08-24-2014 12:17 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  

(08-24-2014 11:58 AM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(08-24-2014 11:57 AM)Smaug Wrote:  25% of the money allotted for actual recipients, with 75% going to pencil-pushers?

You're right, Drew. A private charity operating like this would end up behind bars.

Sounds like our health system...more paper-pushers than doctors.

And the biggest reason for all the paper-pushers? Tons of paperwork created by the nanny state government.

I know, I blame our single payer system...oh wait, we don't have one of those...maybe we should.

Perhaps you should be drug tested if you think involving the government even more in healthcare would mean less paperwork.

(08-24-2014 12:31 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:  

(08-24-2014 12:29 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(08-24-2014 12:27 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:  

(08-24-2014 12:19 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(08-24-2014 12:17 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  And the biggest reason for all the paper-pushers? Tons of paperwork created by the nanny state government.

I know, I blame our single payer system...oh wait, we don't have one of those...maybe we should.

We do have Obamcare. Blame that. Its what we have. Man up. (Or boy up)

Yes, the socialist, commie Obamacare...that gives us an exchange to shop lots of PRIVATE health insurance plans.

Worst Commie EVER!

Really, so two, sometimes one choice is LOTS OF CHOICES?

I see a lot more than two on there...

(08-24-2014 12:35 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  

(08-24-2014 12:19 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(08-24-2014 12:17 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  

(08-24-2014 11:58 AM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(08-24-2014 11:57 AM)Smaug Wrote:  25% of the money allotted for actual recipients, with 75% going to pencil-pushers?

You're right, Drew. A private charity operating like this would end up behind bars.

Sounds like our health system...more paper-pushers than doctors.

And the biggest reason for all the paper-pushers? Tons of paperwork created by the nanny state government.

I know, I blame our single payer system...oh wait, we don't have one of those...maybe we should.

Perhaps you should be drug tested if you think involving the government even more in healthcare would mean less paperwork.

I've been drug tested 3 times in 4 years...I always pass...It comes with carrying a gun for a living.

I agree with drug testing for welfare recipients. NOT because I have a suspicion that they're all on drugs, but because welfare is meant to get you on your feet and doing drugs defeats that purpose.

(08-24-2014 12:35 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(08-24-2014 12:31 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:  

(08-24-2014 12:29 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(08-24-2014 12:27 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:  

(08-24-2014 12:19 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  I know, I blame our single payer system...oh wait, we don't have one of those...maybe we should.

We do have Obamcare. Blame that. Its what we have. Man up. (Or boy up)

Yes, the socialist, commie Obamacare...that gives us an exchange to shop lots of PRIVATE health insurance plans.

Worst Commie EVER!

Really, so two, sometimes one choice is LOTS OF CHOICES?

I see a lot more than two on there...

Given your reading comprehension, that probably explains why you think you see so many. There are some states that only have one. Learn to read.

(08-24-2014 12:39 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:  

(08-24-2014 12:35 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(08-24-2014 12:31 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:  

(08-24-2014 12:29 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(08-24-2014 12:27 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:  We do have Obamcare. Blame that. Its what we have. Man up. (Or boy up)

Yes, the socialist, commie Obamacare...that gives us an exchange to shop lots of PRIVATE health insurance plans.

Worst Commie EVER!

Really, so two, sometimes one choice is LOTS OF CHOICES?

I see a lot more than two on there...

Given your reading comprehension, that probably explains why you think you see so many. There are some states that only have one. Learn to read.

I don't live in some states...

(08-24-2014 12:37 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(08-24-2014 12:35 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  

(08-24-2014 12:19 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(08-24-2014 12:17 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  

(08-24-2014 11:58 AM)UofMemphis Wrote:  Sounds like our health system...more paper-pushers than doctors.

And the biggest reason for all the paper-pushers? Tons of paperwork created by the nanny state government.

I know, I blame our single payer system...oh wait, we don't have one of those...maybe we should.

Perhaps you should be drug tested if you think involving the government even more in healthcare would mean less paperwork.

I've been drug tested 3 times in 4 years...I always pass...It comes with carrying a gun for a living.

That's not real comforting as with your posting history here I would be more comfortable with the possibility that you posted high on your off-time. Now we know that at least one company in Memphis thinks it is a good idea to give a moron a gun.

(08-24-2014 12:42 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  

(08-24-2014 12:37 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(08-24-2014 12:35 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  

(08-24-2014 12:19 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(08-24-2014 12:17 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  And the biggest reason for all the paper-pushers? Tons of paperwork created by the nanny state government.

I know, I blame our single payer system...oh wait, we don't have one of those...maybe we should.

Perhaps you should be drug tested if you think involving the government even more in healthcare would mean less paperwork.

I've been drug tested 3 times in 4 years...I always pass...It comes with carrying a gun for a living.

That's not real comforting as with your posting history here I would be more comfortable with the possibility that you posted high on your off-time. Now we know that at least one company in Memphis thinks it is a good idea to give a moron a gun.

I could always quit and go on welfare...

(08-24-2014 12:42 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(08-24-2014 12:39 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:  

(08-24-2014 12:35 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(08-24-2014 12:31 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:  

(08-24-2014 12:29 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  Yes, the socialist, commie Obamacare...that gives us an exchange to shop lots of PRIVATE health insurance plans.

Worst Commie EVER!

Really, so two, sometimes one choice is LOTS OF CHOICES?

I see a lot more than two on there...

Given your reading comprehension, that probably explains why you think you see so many. There are some states that only have one. Learn to read.

I don't live in some states...

No, you live in one. The state of delusion.

(08-24-2014 12:34 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(08-24-2014 12:32 PM)pharaoh0 Wrote:  

(08-24-2014 12:22 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(08-24-2014 12:15 PM)pharaoh0 Wrote:  

(08-24-2014 12:10 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  The author simply explained the system...I believe you mean the stupidity of the drug testing system.

Nah...I mean the stupidity of the author and the progressives/liberals that skew information to spread mistruths.

The next step is just to adopt the same system as public housing, based on reasonable suspicion. Anyone being honest with themselves knows how much drug usage goes on with welfare recipients. Now, we just need a system that will catch them and pass legal muster...because I refuse to see my tax dollars go to people that can afford dope, crack, and meth.

800 tested...1 failed.

They tried it in FL...

4,086 tested...108 failed.

Your ASSumption doesn't hold water.

And, that is a lie. Not even your propaganda says that. So, I suspect your Florida numbers are just as suspect.

Before you start showing how ignorant you are by cursing and lying, you need to get your numbers correct and then make a reasoned argument.

I wouldn't want to violate your virgin ears, so I'll just post facts.

http://www.tampabay.com/news/courts/flor...ws/1225721

You just lied about TN saying 800 people were tested, when it was just 6.

As to FL, you get 2 out of 4 Pinocchios. The article says:

Quote:Of the 4,086 applicants who scheduled drug tests while the law was enforced, 108 people, or 2.6 percent, failed, most often testing positive for marijuana. About 40 people scheduled tests but canceled them, according to the Department of Children and Families, which oversees Temporary Assistance for Needy Families, known as the TANF program.

What this means is that not all applicants were tested. Additionally, it says "scheduled"...not "tested". That means when you apply, you can schedule the test and then you simply miss the date. 40 people were good enough to cancel because they probably knew they would be dirty. Some people probably didn't even schedule to start with (because the article would just say "applicants" and not add a qualifier, "who scheduled drug tests").

So, that's one solid lie and one half lie.