(08-22-2014 02:10 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(08-22-2014 01:54 PM)gdunn Wrote:  You got links to back that up?

Sure...here's the case from Newton MS. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/10/01...20036.html

Transgender case from Itawamba, the same year as the Candace McMillian episode... http://slog.thestranger.com/slog/archive...in-january

Moss Point school case http://blog.gulflive.com/mississippi-pre..._harr.html

Mississippi Ag Center case http://www.clarionledger.com/article/201...105150001/

Hattiesburg Deputy Fired for being Gay and the victim of a crime http://www.sgn.org/sgnnews38_43/mobile/page17.cfm

Want more?

Huffpost-- Same magazine that earlier this week confused ear plugs for rubber bullets.

SLOG? WTF is that, is that a blog?

Moss point case-- That's easy.. That's stupidity on the teacher not the state.

The Ag Museum.. Gay marriage is not legal in MS, so the Ag Museum, which is funded by the state, won't allow a ceremony that's not legal.

The SGN, really what is Seattle's fascination with Mississippi..

Funny how none of these are on CNN, MSNBC, or even the Daily Show.

With all the noise made by the gays one would think they represented a hell of a lot larger portion of our society than 1.6% - or whatever the figure is.


Posted from the shallow recesses of my feeble mind.

(08-22-2014 02:54 PM)MemphisTiger15 Wrote:  

(08-22-2014 01:53 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  In January, a transgender student was hounded out of the school. In April, Candace McMillian was subjected to county-wide abuse because she wished to express herself at the public school prom. The entire parents of Itawamba County Mississippi sought to humiliate her (and by proxy - any one who is Gay) as well as the developmentally disabled students of the county by going on a witch hunt. It was sickening to see parents behave like that.

The Itawamba case was proof positive as to why HRC needs to be in Mississippi. And ensuring that even worse cases of community abuse of its LGBT population (like a current case in Moss Point) needs to be publicized.

Mississippi has a bad reputation for a reason. It has earned it and continues to do so.

How exactly were her rights violated? The school had their prom. She went. It just so happened, the parents had a PRIVATE party for the other kids that she wasn't invited to. She got her prom. The other kids didn't have to attend with her. Whether you homo's want to believe it or not, everyone doesn't accept your lifestyle and there's way around having it forced on you.

Oh, and no matter what you think about folks from Mississippi, the people of Mississippi don't care what you think about them.

First, there was the issue of the school board cancelling the prom in order to prevent a student from attending. And that was after a ton of abuse heaped on a child - not just by kids - but by adults.

Secondly, there was the gloating of the parents, who organized a party to exclude the one Lesbian at the school. Very Christian of them. And if you read the comments in Itawamba 360, you'd see the pure hate coming from the parents.

And that has to be seen within the context of a community so hateful that they want to block a Lesbian from opening a bar in NE Mississippi. Anywhere in NE Mississippi. And the hometown of the American Family Association. But the good news is that the taxpayers will end up paying that lady a lot of money, as well as the legal fees of the Southern Poverty Law Center which will use that money to pay for ... more lawsuits!

The real problem that the bigots in Mississippi haven't considered, or simply don't care about, is that the victims of that discrimination aren't Gay activists in San Francisco, but their own LGBT citizens. But then again, 'personhood' doesn't apply to people that are Gay there.

Not everyone in Mississippi is an anti-gay bigot. But way too many are. That is unfortunate. But where it goes from unfortunate to unconstitutional is when (as Mississippi has done repeatedly) those bigots use the state to discriminate against its own citizens.

Its not the "Hospitality State", but the "Mean State".

We get it. Mississippi will do the right thing. 30 years after they should have been doing it. Sullenly. And under the threat of a court order.

There's a reason why Mississippi is dead last in just about every economic metric. The state is run not just for the benefit of upper middle class or wealthier white, straight, Christians, but to the exclusion of all others. That's why there are more descendents of Mississippi grandparents in Chicago/Los Angeles than there are in all of Mississippi. That's why no matter how 'pro-business' Mississippi gets, they can't seem to attract knowledge jobs. People just leave. And have been doing so for decades.

But not everyone leaves. Nor should they have to. But Mississippi does its hardest to push everyone who isn't part of the Fox News nation out.

(08-22-2014 02:54 PM)MemphisTiger15 Wrote:  

(08-22-2014 01:53 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  In January, a transgender student was hounded out of the school. In April, Candace McMillian was subjected to county-wide abuse because she wished to express herself at the public school prom. The entire parents of Itawamba County Mississippi sought to humiliate her (and by proxy - any one who is Gay) as well as the developmentally disabled students of the county by going on a witch hunt. It was sickening to see parents behave like that.

The Itawamba case was proof positive as to why HRC needs to be in Mississippi. And ensuring that even worse cases of community abuse of its LGBT population (like a current case in Moss Point) needs to be publicized.

Mississippi has a bad reputation for a reason. It has earned it and continues to do so.

How exactly were her rights violated? The school had their prom. She went. It just so happened, the parents had a PRIVATE party for the other kids that she wasn't invited to. She got her prom. The other kids didn't have to attend with her. Whether you homo's want to believe it or not, everyone doesn't accept your lifestyle and there's way around having it forced on you.

Oh, and no matter what you think about folks from Mississippi, the people of Mississippi don't care what you think about them.

I don't care if someone wants to accept something or not...if you wish to argue with the gay couple up the street over the validity of their marriage, go for it....it's about equal rights under the law.

That's like a Baptist telling a Methodist that they aren't really married because only Baptists interpret the bible correctly...who cares as long as they have equal rights?

(08-22-2014 03:19 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(08-22-2014 02:54 PM)MemphisTiger15 Wrote:  

(08-22-2014 01:53 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  In January, a transgender student was hounded out of the school. In April, Candace McMillian was subjected to county-wide abuse because she wished to express herself at the public school prom. The entire parents of Itawamba County Mississippi sought to humiliate her (and by proxy - any one who is Gay) as well as the developmentally disabled students of the county by going on a witch hunt. It was sickening to see parents behave like that.

The Itawamba case was proof positive as to why HRC needs to be in Mississippi. And ensuring that even worse cases of community abuse of its LGBT population (like a current case in Moss Point) needs to be publicized.

Mississippi has a bad reputation for a reason. It has earned it and continues to do so.

How exactly were her rights violated? The school had their prom. She went. It just so happened, the parents had a PRIVATE party for the other kids that she wasn't invited to. She got her prom. The other kids didn't have to attend with her. Whether you homo's want to believe it or not, everyone doesn't accept your lifestyle and there's way around having it forced on you.

Oh, and no matter what you think about folks from Mississippi, the people of Mississippi don't care what you think about them.

I don't care if someone wants to accept something or not...if you wish to argue with the gay couple up the street over the validity of their marriage, go for it....it's about equal special rights under the re-written law.

That's like a Baptist telling a Methodist that they aren't really married because only Baptists interpret the bible correctly...who cares as long as they have equal rights? Redacted, due to being a false allegory.

FIFY

People keep using this word "equality," it isn't being used correctly.

They want to redefine marriage then let them attempt to the democratic way. I have no problem accepting that.

As it is, this whole thing is about degenerates that hate the society that rejected them getting even.

It's all rather childish and we as a society suffer.

(08-22-2014 03:26 PM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  People keep using this word "equality," it isn't being used correctly.

They want to redefine marriage then let them attempt to the democratic way. I have no problem accepting that.

As it is, this whole thing is about degenerates that hate the society that rejected them getting even.

It's all rather childish and we as a society suffer.

You mean like let the masses vote like they did in California.

Anyone remember how the vote turned out and then what happened next? I do.. The proposition did not pass and instead of waiting and trying again, they went to the Supreme Court.

Not trying to shove it down anyone's throat.. No that is.. Again, open the Pandora Box and when it's wide open, you cannot blame anyone but yourself.

(08-22-2014 03:16 PM)gdunn Wrote:  

(08-22-2014 02:10 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(08-22-2014 01:54 PM)gdunn Wrote:  You got links to back that up?

Sure...here's the case from Newton MS. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/10/01...20036.html

Transgender case from Itawamba, the same year as the Candace McMillian episode... http://slog.thestranger.com/slog/archive...in-january

Moss Point school case http://blog.gulflive.com/mississippi-pre..._harr.html

Mississippi Ag Center case http://www.clarionledger.com/article/201...105150001/

Hattiesburg Deputy Fired for being Gay and the victim of a crime http://www.sgn.org/sgnnews38_43/mobile/page17.cfm

Want more?

Huffpost-- Same magazine that earlier this week confused ear plugs for rubber bullets.

SLOG? WTF is that, is that a blog?

Moss point case-- That's easy.. That's stupidity on the teacher not the state.

The Ag Museum.. Gay marriage is not legal in MS, so the Ag Museum, which is funded by the state, won't allow a ceremony that's not legal.

The SGN, really what is Seattle's fascination with Mississippi..

Funny how none of these are on CNN, MSNBC, or even the Daily Show.

Yea, laugh at the Huff Post all you will, but more people read it everyday than live in Mississippi. The article is dead on accurate. And Newton, MS is going to lose that case - hard and will end up paying the SPLC a ton of money in legal fees. But how about the case at hand. Town allows straight bars but not one owned by a Gay person? How is that fair or even economically smart?

If you want to know what set Candace McMillian off, it was the transgendered case in Itawamba in January. That case, which sadly was not pursued due to the fact that the child's guardian feared for her SAFETY, was that the public schools of Itawamba County barred all education for transgendered students complying with the medical and psychologically correct advice as to how to comport oneself if one is Transgendered.

The Moss Point case also involved a refusal by some 'religious' school administrator to protect the student. And insults by those adminstrators to the victim of the bullying. Moss Point will also be paying the SPLC some legal fees.

So the state of Mississippi can rent facilities to straight persons for any purpose but not to Gay ones? Exactly where is it ILLEGAL for a Gay couple to hold a commitment ceremony? The homophobes running the Ag Museum just made up the law. Here's the Christian Broadcasting Network on the Miss Ag Museum case. http://www.cbn.com/cbnnews/us/2012/Augus...it-Threat/ Jim Hood, while a Democrat, is not pro-Gay. Note that the AG immediately ordered the Museum to rent facilities without discrimination because he, a lawyer, rightfully saw that the state was going to lose that case.

The Hattiesburg case was on CNN. http://www.cnn.com/2013/03/22/opinion/su...tion-lgbt/

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Here's the reality of Mississippi for LGBT persons.

1) You have no right to open and operate a business complying with all of Mississippi's laws. You aren't violating any law, but they'll just deny you a license because you are Gay

2) You can't shop at certain businesses, use the public restrooms while shopping, and are denied public accommodations

3) You can't count on being able to use state assets, simply because you are LGBT

4) You can't count on the police to protect you from violence, investigate crimes against you. In fact, in Hattiesburg, you can pretty much count on Sheriff McGee to persecute you for being Gay.

5) You can't work at 50% of Mississippi's taxpayer supported hospitals as an openly Gay person in management

6) If the legislature is debating legislation targeting your freedoms, you can't protest or assemble in front of your capitol to make your voices heard. You'll get no freedom of protest or petition. They'll make you pay a 'freedom tax' in order to protest not charged to other groups.

7) If you are bullied at school, the school will not protect you because you are Gay and therefore 'deserve it'.

So basically, you have limited economic opportunities, significant safety issues, etc.

No wonder the streets of Atlanta, Nashville, and Houston are filled with Mississippi refugees.

(08-22-2014 03:26 PM)DefCONNOne Wrote:  

(08-22-2014 03:19 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(08-22-2014 02:54 PM)MemphisTiger15 Wrote:  

(08-22-2014 01:53 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  In January, a transgender student was hounded out of the school. In April, Candace McMillian was subjected to county-wide abuse because she wished to express herself at the public school prom. The entire parents of Itawamba County Mississippi sought to humiliate her (and by proxy - any one who is Gay) as well as the developmentally disabled students of the county by going on a witch hunt. It was sickening to see parents behave like that.

The Itawamba case was proof positive as to why HRC needs to be in Mississippi. And ensuring that even worse cases of community abuse of its LGBT population (like a current case in Moss Point) needs to be publicized.

Mississippi has a bad reputation for a reason. It has earned it and continues to do so.

How exactly were her rights violated? The school had their prom. She went. It just so happened, the parents had a PRIVATE party for the other kids that she wasn't invited to. She got her prom. The other kids didn't have to attend with her. Whether you homo's want to believe it or not, everyone doesn't accept your lifestyle and there's way around having it forced on you.

Oh, and no matter what you think about folks from Mississippi, the people of Mississippi don't care what you think about them.

I don't care if someone wants to accept something or not...if you wish to argue with the gay couple up the street over the validity of their marriage, go for it....it's about equal special rights under the re-written law.

That's like a Baptist telling a Methodist that they aren't really married because only Baptists interpret the bible correctly...who cares as long as they have equal rights? Redacted, due to being a false allegory.

FIFY

Altering someones words....how tolerant.

"Tolerance is the last virtue of a dying society"

Aristotle

(08-22-2014 03:26 PM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  People keep using this word "equality," it isn't being used correctly.

They want to redefine marriage then let them attempt to the democratic way. I have no problem accepting that.

As it is, this whole thing is about degenerates that hate the society that rejected them getting even.

It's all rather childish and we as a society suffer.

When the definition of marriage is unconstitutional, it's the courts duty to strike it down. (see section III, DOMA)

(08-22-2014 03:44 PM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  "Tolerance is the last virtue of a dying society"

Aristotle

"Nothing lasts forever"

Me

(08-22-2014 03:46 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(08-22-2014 03:44 PM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  "Tolerance is the last virtue of a dying society"

Aristotle

"Nothing lasts forever"

Me

One of the greatest minds of all time or a community college dropout?

Easy choice

(08-22-2014 03:48 PM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  

(08-22-2014 03:46 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(08-22-2014 03:44 PM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  "Tolerance is the last virtue of a dying society"

Aristotle

"Nothing lasts forever"

Me

One of the greatest minds of all time or a community college dropout?

Easy choice

Why not both?

I believe Steve Jobs and Bill Gates are both college dropouts...

(08-22-2014 03:40 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  Yea, laugh at the Huff Post all you will, but more people read it everyday than live in Mississippi. The article is dead on accurate.

So since more people watch FOX NEWS than live in Mississippi, you're saying that it's dead on accurate too? Good to know.

(08-22-2014 03:40 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(08-22-2014 03:16 PM)gdunn Wrote:  

(08-22-2014 02:10 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(08-22-2014 01:54 PM)gdunn Wrote:  You got links to back that up?

Sure...here's the case from Newton MS. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/10/01...20036.html

Transgender case from Itawamba, the same year as the Candace McMillian episode... http://slog.thestranger.com/slog/archive...in-january

Moss Point school case http://blog.gulflive.com/mississippi-pre..._harr.html

Mississippi Ag Center case http://www.clarionledger.com/article/201...105150001/

Hattiesburg Deputy Fired for being Gay and the victim of a crime http://www.sgn.org/sgnnews38_43/mobile/page17.cfm

Want more?

Huffpost-- Same magazine that earlier this week confused ear plugs for rubber bullets.

SLOG? WTF is that, is that a blog?

Moss point case-- That's easy.. That's stupidity on the teacher not the state.

The Ag Museum.. Gay marriage is not legal in MS, so the Ag Museum, which is funded by the state, won't allow a ceremony that's not legal.

The SGN, really what is Seattle's fascination with Mississippi..

Funny how none of these are on CNN, MSNBC, or even the Daily Show.

Yea, laugh at the Huff Post all you will, but more people read it everyday than live in Mississippi. The article is dead on accurate. And Newton, MS is going to lose that case - hard and will end up paying the SPLC a ton of money in legal fees. But how about the case at hand. Town allows straight bars but not one owned by a Gay person? How is that fair or even economically smart?

If you want to know what set Candace McMillian off, it was the transgendered case in Itawamba in January. That case, which sadly was not pursued due to the fact that the child's guardian feared for her SAFETY, was that the public schools of Itawamba County barred all education for transgendered students complying with the medical and psychologically correct advice as to how to comport oneself if one is Transgendered.

The Moss Point case also involved a refusal by some 'religious' school administrator to protect the student. And insults by those adminstrators to the victim of the bullying. Moss Point will also be paying the SPLC some legal fees.

So the state of Mississippi can rent facilities to straight persons for any purpose but not to Gay ones? Exactly where is it ILLEGAL for a Gay couple to hold a commitment ceremony? The homophobes running the Ag Museum just made up the law. Here's the Christian Broadcasting Network on the Miss Ag Museum case. http://www.cbn.com/cbnnews/us/2012/Augus...it-Threat/ Jim Hood, while a Democrat, is not pro-Gay. Note that the AG immediately ordered the Museum to rent facilities without discrimination because he, a lawyer, rightfully saw that the state was going to lose that case.

The Hattiesburg case was on CNN. http://www.cnn.com/2013/03/22/opinion/su...tion-lgbt/

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Here's the reality of Mississippi for LGBT persons.

1) You have no right to open and operate a business complying with all of Mississippi's laws. You aren't violating any law, but they'll just deny you a license because you are Gay-- bull****

2) You can't shop at certain businesses, use the public restrooms while shopping, and are denied public accommodations-- bull****

3) You can't count on being able to use state assets, simply because you are LGBT-- bull****

4) You can't count on the police to protect you from violence, investigate crimes against you. In fact, in Hattiesburg, you can pretty much count on Sheriff McGee to persecute you for being Gay.-- Not sure on this one.

5) You can't work at 50% of Mississippi's taxpayer supported hospitals as an openly Gay person in management-- bull****

6) If you are bullied at school, the school will not protect you because you are Gay and therefore 'deserve it'.-- bull****

So basically, you have limited economic opportunities, significant safety issues, etc.

No wonder the streets of Atlanta, Nashville, and Houston are filled with Mississippi refugees.

You ever leave mama and daddy's basement and see the world? I've lived in MS for most of my life and I've never seen or heard any of that.. Which makes it laughable.. Usually when people in MS get the ACLU or SPLC involved it's because they didn't get exactly what they wanted...

Most of these stories are bunk.. Huff Post, while read by many, still doesn't make up for the fact that they're wrong and are very left leaning. Many people read this message board every day, and there's a ton of mistruth presented here on an hourly basis..

Gay people are not some special needs case.. You don't think most of those papers don't have an agenda, the only ones I can say for sure are the one from the Clarion Ledger and the Gulfpost Blog.. And funny who when I brought up something to make you look like the doofus you are, you skimmed over and want to talk about my home state like you've sweated in the hot MS sun for one hour or dropped an ounce of your blood in her soil.. Believe it or not Mississippi is more accepting of Gays than what your little articles lead you to believe.. There are gay communities I know for sure around the Jackson area and the Hattiesburg area.. I have a friend from HS that lives in Hattiesburg, and I've never once heard him complain about any treatment from anyone there but the men he's seeing.

So please get off your soap box and quit talking about things for which you have no understanding.. This whoa is me bull**** don't fly especially when you talk about my homestate and you've probably only stopped there for a minute if anything.. You say they hate gays there, sh*t I've stopped in places where they hated me and I'm a straight white man.. Hate is everywhere.. And right now you're spewing just as much as anyone.

(08-22-2014 03:40 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  No wonder the streets of Atlanta, Nashville, and Houston are filled with Mississippi refugees.

so everyone should be happy then.... the gays move somewhere more accepting and the normal folks in Miss can get on with their lives.

(08-22-2014 03:39 PM)gdunn Wrote:  

(08-22-2014 03:26 PM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  People keep using this word "equality," it isn't being used correctly.

They want to redefine marriage then let them attempt to the democratic way. I have no problem accepting that.

As it is, this whole thing is about degenerates that hate the society that rejected them getting even.

It's all rather childish and we as a society suffer.

You mean like let the masses vote like they did in California.

Anyone remember how the vote turned out and then what happened next? I do.. The proposition did not pass and instead of waiting and trying again, they went to the Supreme Court.

Not trying to shove it down anyone's throat.. No that is.. Again, open the Pandora Box and when it's wide open, you cannot blame anyone but yourself.

If 50% + 1 can remove someone's basic rights via referendum, then effectively no one has any rights.

(08-22-2014 03:53 PM)MemphisTiger15 Wrote:  

(08-22-2014 03:40 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  No wonder the streets of Atlanta, Nashville, and Houston are filled with Mississippi refugees.

so everyone should be happy then.... the gays move somewhere more accepting and the normal folks in Miss can get on with their lives.

Not everyone is happy. Not everyone can leave. Not everyone wants to leave. They shouldn't have to.

(08-22-2014 03:54 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(08-22-2014 03:39 PM)gdunn Wrote:  

(08-22-2014 03:26 PM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  People keep using this word "equality," it isn't being used correctly.

They want to redefine marriage then let them attempt to the democratic way. I have no problem accepting that.

As it is, this whole thing is about degenerates that hate the society that rejected them getting even.

It's all rather childish and we as a society suffer.

You mean like let the masses vote like they did in California.

Anyone remember how the vote turned out and then what happened next? I do.. The proposition did not pass and instead of waiting and trying again, they went to the Supreme Court.

Not trying to shove it down anyone's throat.. No that is.. Again, open the Pandora Box and when it's wide open, you cannot blame anyone but yourself.

If 50% + 1 can remove someone's basic rights via referendum, then effectively no one has any rights.

So wait, we vote on something, don't get what we like, we can challenge it.

Well in that case, I want to call in the last two presidential elections, I didn't get the results I wanted.