If Wilson shot a surrendering boy, then wouldn't a well trained veteran cop have hit center mass with most of his shots? Would a cop have emptied his gun into a boy knowing there had to be witnesses? Would a cop have taken several shots, hit the boy in the arm, and say to himself to keep shooting because nothing will happen to him and finally hit him in the head?

You add up the busted face, the boy possibly being concerned he was dimed out in a strong arm robbery, and the fact that a cop emptied his gun rather than take a single executioner's shot, and it looks like the cop was in fear of his life.

I know if I was planning to shoot someone, I wouldn't empty my gun. I'd leave something left in case I needed them.

Is it possible that the two fought. Brown went for his gun and lost. Tried to run as one shot grazed his arm. Stopped cold and turned. Then got shot multiple times.ls that possible? Could that have happened?

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(08-20-2014 11:44 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  Is it possible that the two fought. Brown went for his gun and lost. Tried to run as one shot grazed his arm. Stopped cold and turned. Then got shot multiple times.ls that possible? Could that have happened?

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Still trying to find a way to hang the cop who has no history of violence while defending a person who displayed violence 5 minutes before he died, aren't you?

Fit, I'll do you one better.

While popping a pimple in his police car the cop collapsed his skull and was then met by a guy 100 pounds heavier than him and who had just committed a violent crime. The cop, concerned about his pimple, fired a warning shot in his car and that scared the boy off. Putting aside his smashed in face, the cop then told the boy to stop running away, and miracles of miracles HE ACTUALLY DID. The cop then, for no reason, started shooting and the boy stood still while the cop emptied his gun into him. Oh, you think the boy ran? Then he must have ran backwards while he was being shot at, because the shots hit him in the front.

Can you answer the question? Or have you already made your decision? Is it possible.

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But in your mind, the teen beat the the crap out of him and got away, but then decided to charge him once the cop regained consciousness and drew his gun? Lol

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(08-21-2014 12:02 AM)smn1256 Wrote:  Fit, I'll do you one better.

While popping a pimple in his police car the cop collapsed his skull and was then met by a guy 100 pounds heavier than him and who had just committed a violent crime. The cop, concerned about his pimple, fired a warning shot in his car and that scared the boy off. Putting aside his smashed in face, the cop then told the boy to stop running away, and miracles of miracles HE ACTUALLY DID. The cop then, for no reason, started shooting and the boy stood still while the cop emptied his gun into him. Oh, you think the boy ran? Then he must have ran backwards while he was being shot at, because the shots hit him in the front.

your honor, the persecution rests.

(08-21-2014 12:22 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  Can you answer the question? Or have you already made your decision? Is it possible.

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The evidence that this was an unjust shooting is down to two people who talked to the press after. Even the other guy walking with Brown has now changed his story.

You drew lines on this very early with comments like "looks like first degree murder" (read premeditated murder)... Most everyone else in the forum, even Mach said from the beginning lets see what evidence comes out.

Day by day this looks more and more like a justified shooting. Unfortunatly folks like you are so intent on hanging a cop for all the racial injustice of the world its a certainty he will be convicted of something regardless of where the facts take us.

(08-21-2014 12:25 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  But in your mind, the teen beat the the crap out of him and got away, but then decided to charge him once the cop regained consciousness and drew his gun? Lol

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Nice try.. Nobody said he lost consciousness. What was said was he was *nearly* beaten unconscious. Maybe Brown was stoned out of his mind and was not reasoning so that when the officer followed protocol and pursued a suspect who tried to take his gun Brown snapped.

Is that possible Fit?

A lot of assumptions on both sides

(08-21-2014 01:06 AM)ODUChm Wrote:  A lot of assumptions on both sides

True but we live in a legal system of reasonable doubt not racial revenge. The damning thing for those who are inclined to believe this was murder is that the narrative has been falling apart by the day, but John Q Public people are too fixated on the riots to notice.

Fact - Brown was a good kid who never caused trouble and was just walking home with a friend
Oops - Brown just stole from a store and when confronted threw an employee to the ground and made terroristic threats. He was also high at the time.
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Fact - The Cop hit brown with a door, put him in a headlock, threatened to shoot him and then after brown had a chance to run due to an accidental discharge the cop short brown in the back causing him to surrender. The cop then shot him multiple times in an exectution manner.
Oops - There was a fight, the cop had his eye socket broken before Brwn began to run. Brown was not shot in the back and the execution style killing involved six hits, only two were critical shots.

Fit wants so badly for this cop to go to jail.

(08-21-2014 12:22 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  Can you answer the question? Or have you already made your decision? Is it possible.

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Not according to the the witnesses that state. MB was taunting Wilson and then Charged at him.


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(08-21-2014 06:49 AM)Smaug Wrote:  Fit wants so badly for this cop to go to jail.

So desperate for this to happen ,..is he not !?

I wonder why this is?


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According to him, the Civil War isn't over.

(08-21-2014 06:49 AM)Smaug Wrote:  Fit wants so badly for this cop to go to jail.

So do the protesters. Evidence be damned.

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(08-21-2014 12:22 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  Can you answer the question? Or have you already made your decision? Is it possible.

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Not according to the the witnesses that state. MB was taunting Wilson and then Charged at him.


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True but according to other witnesses, it is.

(08-21-2014 10:40 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(08-21-2014 07:03 AM)South Carolina Duke Wrote:  

(08-21-2014 12:22 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  Can you answer the question? Or have you already made your decision? Is it possible.

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Not according to the the witnesses that state. MB was taunting Wilson and then Charged at him.


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True but according to other witnesses, it is.

Whose version does the physical evidence support?

(08-21-2014 10:46 AM)Smaug Wrote:  

(08-21-2014 10:40 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(08-21-2014 07:03 AM)South Carolina Duke Wrote:  

(08-21-2014 12:22 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  Can you answer the question? Or have you already made your decision? Is it possible.

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Not according to the the witnesses that state. MB was taunting Wilson and then Charged at him.


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True but according to other witnesses, it is.

Whose version does the physical evidence support?

I think both. Regardless of what happened before he was shot, the physical evidence shows that he was shot at a distance.

All you have to do is listen to both stories. One of them actually makes sense and can be easily repeated because of its consistency (the officer's). The other story is inconsistent and unable to be repeated with accuracy (Mr. Brown's friend and accomplice). The forensic evidence does not match up with it and the story makes no sense once you think it through.

To me, you have to ask two very important questions:
1. Does the officer have a record of abusing his authority against the people he polices (have there been any complaints against him, including in his personal capacity)? No. Because if such things existed, the DoJ, Governor, and media would have released this and talked about it endlessly.
2. Does Mr. Brown have a record of intimidating or assaulting others and/or showing a disregard for authority? Yes. He just committed strong arm robbery and assault and then, according to his friend, disobeyed a lawful order to get out of the street.

Does this prove 100% what happened? no. But, what it does show is that the narrative of Mr. Brown's supporters does not match the history of the officer in question. Whereas, the officer's account (as relayed by others) is consistent with the prior conduct of Mr. Brown.