(08-19-2014 03:35 PM)perimeterpost Wrote:  

(08-19-2014 03:27 PM)No Bull Wrote:  

(08-19-2014 02:24 PM)Policiious Wrote:  http://www.usatoday.com/staff/2525/paul-myerberg/

Can't agree with his choice but it is his blog. 19 Non Entitled 5 teams are in the top 64 which is 30% of the total!

Here are the Non Entitled 10 top teams by ranking
Marshall 20
Boise State 25
UCF 30
BYU 34
BGSU 36
Houston 38
NIU 39
LaLafayette 40
UT ST 46
Navy 48

It's crap. Cincy, Houston, ECU, and UCF would beat Marshall hands down... not to mention Boise St...

loved it when ECU destroyed Marshall last year, makes since to think they'd do it again this year.

Marshall is a good team and they will probably go undefeated. Their OOC is weak and will hold them back IMO. Plus CUSA is terrible now. They can't control their weak conference but they can control who they play OOC.

They could compete this year in the AAC with Cato he is a very good QB. They would not win the AAC but they could compete very well.

(08-19-2014 06:14 PM)First Mate Wrote:  

(08-19-2014 03:35 PM)perimeterpost Wrote:  

(08-19-2014 03:27 PM)No Bull Wrote:  

(08-19-2014 02:24 PM)Policiious Wrote:  http://www.usatoday.com/staff/2525/paul-myerberg/

Can't agree with his choice but it is his blog. 19 Non Entitled 5 teams are in the top 64 which is 30% of the total!

Here are the Non Entitled 10 top teams by ranking
Marshall 20
Boise State 25
UCF 30
BYU 34
BGSU 36
Houston 38
NIU 39
LaLafayette 40
UT ST 46
Navy 48

It's crap. Cincy, Houston, ECU, and UCF would beat Marshall hands down... not to mention Boise St...

loved it when ECU destroyed Marshall last year, makes since to think they'd do it again this year.

Marshall is a good team and they will probably go undefeated. Their OOC is weak and will hold them back IMO. Plus CUSA is terrible now. They can't control their weak conference but they can control who they play OOC.

They could compete this year in the AAC with Cato he is a very good QB. They would not win the AAC but they could compete very well.

And we would beat them for the 436th time in a row. Cato is very good though


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(08-19-2014 05:48 PM)blunderbuss Wrote:  

(08-19-2014 03:33 PM)EarthBoundMisfit Wrote:  

(08-19-2014 03:29 PM)BigHouston Wrote:  LOL... The better programs leave CUSA and all of the sudden Marshall is better then everyone in this league.

lot of quality transfers from what I understand. (SEC & ACC caliber transfer players)
They do have some talent....but their schedule is so bad....that no one will pay any serious attention to them because of it

Yeah..... um..... that's one way of putting it.

Exactly…They take giving a kid another chance to entirely new level. There is no doubt they have some of the best talent in the "G5" but they have an Athletic and Academic Administration that has decided to win at any cost. Holliday can sign any kid he wants and many of these kids have no other FBS options. Somehow they are able to get all their recruits enrolled and then find a way to get most of them qualified after a year.

Sour grapes aside you do have to give Holliday some credit for the quality of the academically qualified kids he is able to sign as well. Add his ability to recruit qualified kids with the ability to take the Power 5 cast offs and you have a recipe for a damn good roster.

no point in ripping Marshall. They very well may have a GREAT team. As for their schedule...all you can do is beat the teams you have scheduled. It's not like the Herd players don't want to play a big boy schedule...it's not their fault.

(08-19-2014 05:00 PM)No Bull Wrote:  

(08-19-2014 03:40 PM)ncbeta Wrote:  

(08-19-2014 03:35 PM)perimeterpost Wrote:  

(08-19-2014 03:27 PM)No Bull Wrote:  

(08-19-2014 02:24 PM)Policiious Wrote:  http://www.usatoday.com/staff/2525/paul-myerberg/

Can't agree with his choice but it is his blog. 19 Non Entitled 5 teams are in the top 64 which is 30% of the total!

Here are the Non Entitled 10 top teams by ranking
Marshall 20
Boise State 25
UCF 30
BYU 34
BGSU 36
Houston 38
NIU 39
LaLafayette 40
UT ST 46
Navy 48

It's crap. Cincy, Houston, ECU, and UCF would beat Marshall hands down... not to mention Boise St...

loved it when ECU destroyed Marshall last year, makes since to think they'd do it again this year.

That makes no sense

sarcasm.

But ECU would still beat the pants off Marshall this year.

I appreciate the confidence you have in ECU but I am not so sure about that…Marshall has a lot of quality experienced talent. The game we had with them last year was just "one of those games". I am not going to make excuses but there were some extenuating circumstances involved in that deal. If we were to play them this year I would expect a very hard fought game and I would be happy to escape with a win. Marshall would be in the top 3rd of the AAC this season…If they could figure out how to win on the road against decent teams they would probably be in the running for the Championship.

(08-19-2014 08:05 PM)Bearcats#1 Wrote:  no point in ripping Marshall. They very well may have a GREAT team. As for their schedule...all you can do is beat the teams you have scheduled. It's not like the Herd players don't want to play a big boy schedule...it's not their fault.

I agree when it comes to their conference schedule but they do have some control over their OOC schedule. They will tell you that they are having a hard time scheduling quality OOC opponents and that is true, but there is a reason a lot teams do not want to play them and that reason is well within their control.

(08-19-2014 08:11 PM)ECU-DMB Fanatic Wrote:  

(08-19-2014 08:05 PM)Bearcats#1 Wrote:  no point in ripping Marshall. They very well may have a GREAT team. As for their schedule...all you can do is beat the teams you have scheduled. It's not like the Herd players don't want to play a big boy schedule...it's not their fault.

I agree when it comes to their conference schedule but they do have some control over their OOC schedule. They will tell you that they are having a hard time scheduling quality OOC opponents and that is true, but there is a reason a lot teams do not want to play them and that reason is well within their control.

I don't know...UC has a heck of a time getting good OOC and that's a fact.

No love loss between ECU and UCF fans but I can say without a shadow of doubt having watched the UCF vs Houston game last year in Orlando and watching ECU get curb stomped by Marshall that UCF would destroy Marshall. I have little doubt that Houston would also drop the hammer on Marshall. Cato is a great QB but Marshall is not good on the road and if you can get to Cato they are screwed. The UCF Defense is flat out nasty and even without Bortles and Johnson would give Marshall all kinds of problems. I know Marshall fans love the beat down of ECU last year and they should. We crapped the bed in monumental fashion after crushing NCST on the road. Shane Carden was injured and we just came out flat but no excuses, we got crushed in a game to determine the CUSA Champ.

Marshall might have the worst schedule in history and still not go undefeated. It is a hell of an expectation to put on your team that the schedule is so god awful that anything less than an undefeated season is a disappointment.

The real intent was to show how many AAC, CUSA, MAC, MWC and Sunbelt teams are highly ranked this year. The Entitled 5's notion that they are far superior to anything that the rest of D1A football has to offer is not bought into by the USA Today. I don't put that much value into the coaches poll, it' s an old boy network, not one AAC, CUSA, MAC, MWC or Sunbelt team was in that poll.

The number of Entitled 5 teams in the bottom half (65 to 128) is nearly equal to 2 entire conferences of the 5.

I hope Marshall loses its first 3 games in a row

(08-19-2014 11:42 PM)JDTulane Wrote:  I hope Marshall loses its first 3 games in a row

Well, they lost to MTSU and Rice and nearly lost to FAU. I don't think they'll go undefeated.

(08-19-2014 03:29 PM)BigHouston Wrote:  LOL... The better programs leave CUSA and all of the sudden Marshall is better then everyone in this league.

+1! My thoughts exactly!

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What's the fascination with Marshall?

I think Marshall has a good chance of winning CUSA, but I don't know about going undefeated. How is their defense?

A lot would have to go their way a la Houston in 2011, but I think a Cincy or Houston with one loss should easily beat out a 1-loss Marshall. The schedule strength is not even close.

(08-20-2014 08:18 PM)Pony94 Wrote:  What's the fascination with Marshall?

The weakest Champion. Thus an easy kill for the Paltry 5.

You didn't actually think the Paltry 5 wanted to play a team that may actually be able to win, did you?

Just a quick question... What year is the baseline for which a team can neither improve or decline? Is every team forever destined to be stuck at its 2008 performance level forever? Does having one of the top non-entitled recruiting classes three years in a row not play a factor?

Let's play a few downs of football and have some tailgating food before everyone gets crazy.

(08-20-2014 08:40 PM)CoachMaclid Wrote:  Just a quick question... What year is the baseline for which a team can neither improve or decline? Is every team forever destined to be stuck at its 2008 performance level forever? Does having one of the top non-entitled recruiting classes three years in a row not play a factor?

Let's play a few downs of football and have some tailgating food before everyone gets crazy.

Why so mad? My post was spot on.

(08-20-2014 08:40 PM)CoachMaclid Wrote:  Just a quick question... What year is the baseline for which a team can neither improve or decline? Is every team forever destined to be stuck at its 2008 performance level forever? Does having one of the top non-entitled recruiting classes three years in a row not play a factor?

Let's play a few downs of football and have some tailgating food before everyone gets crazy.

Nope. Recruiting classes are meaningless. i.e. Tennessee consistent top 25-15 recruiting classes, yet not even close to that level of play, or even Florida top 10, yet they play as a top 65 team.

Marshall opened the flood gate toNQ players. They get students admitted and some how pay for their own 1st year tuition in very mysterious ways. No joke.