(08-20-2014 02:54 PM)Kruciff Wrote:  

(08-20-2014 02:51 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(08-20-2014 02:11 PM)Kruciff Wrote:  So MAC goes from 100k per team per year to 600k.

Apples to Apples, if the AAC got the same rate, we're sitting at 12 mil per team per year.

If you go by Average TV rating per conference, we only have a 23.1% bonus over the MAC, but have substantially more games aired (last year) which would net us in the range of only 2.5 mill per year.

If you weight it by team rank, UCF(40) was ~20 ranks higher than the MAC's highest (59), probably good for a very rough +30%, or $2.6 Million.

Soooo....

Unless we lockdown the ratings and the At Large spot, and sneak a team into the CFP... we're looking at MAYBE $4 mill (inflation) per year per team. Our absolute max is $12 mill under perfect conditions and long term.

My gut says 6-8 is the sweet spot.

I think if we can lure Army and BYU, we can hit that $12 mill per year per team mark. Fingers crossed.

I want to know, when Army joined CUSA, how much higher did the value of that contract go?

(08-20-2014 03:08 PM)Redvolution Wrote:  

(08-20-2014 02:54 PM)Kruciff Wrote:  

(08-20-2014 02:51 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(08-20-2014 02:11 PM)Kruciff Wrote:  So MAC goes from 100k per team per year to 600k.

Apples to Apples, if the AAC got the same rate, we're sitting at 12 mil per team per year.

If you go by Average TV rating per conference, we only have a 23.1% bonus over the MAC, but have substantially more games aired (last year) which would net us in the range of only 2.5 mill per year.

If you weight it by team rank, UCF(40) was ~20 ranks higher than the MAC's highest (59), probably good for a very rough +30%, or $2.6 Million.

Soooo....

Unless we lockdown the ratings and the At Large spot, and sneak a team into the CFP... we're looking at MAYBE $4 mill (inflation) per year per team. Our absolute max is $12 mill under perfect conditions and long term.

My gut says 6-8 is the sweet spot.

I think if we can lure Army and BYU, we can hit that $12 mill per year per team mark. Fingers crossed.

I want to know, when Army joined CUSA, how much higher did the value of that contract go?

Markets weren't view as they are now, Redvolution... The new negotiations methods for increasing tv revenue are markets... I believe this time an Army type program could help a league like the AAC.

(08-20-2014 01:42 PM)Redvolution Wrote:  

(08-20-2014 01:11 PM)perimeterpost Wrote:  to put the MAC's $124 million/13yr deal into context, based on the terms of the CFP contract with ESPN, over the next 12 years each P5 conference will receive at least $180m more than all of the G5 conferences combined.

And with the successful inaugural season (Fiesta Bowl win vs B12 champion, Men's and Women's Nat'l championships), the midway point look-in (after year 3) looks more promising for a big jump as time goes on.

We may get a jump, but those who think 10 mil plus are crazy. It isn't going to happen. If we are lucky we double the current deal.

(08-20-2014 03:24 PM)BigHouston Wrote:  

(08-20-2014 03:08 PM)Redvolution Wrote:  

(08-20-2014 02:54 PM)Kruciff Wrote:  

(08-20-2014 02:51 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(08-20-2014 02:11 PM)Kruciff Wrote:  So MAC goes from 100k per team per year to 600k.

Apples to Apples, if the AAC got the same rate, we're sitting at 12 mil per team per year.

If you go by Average TV rating per conference, we only have a 23.1% bonus over the MAC, but have substantially more games aired (last year) which would net us in the range of only 2.5 mill per year.

If you weight it by team rank, UCF(40) was ~20 ranks higher than the MAC's highest (59), probably good for a very rough +30%, or $2.6 Million.

Soooo....

Unless we lockdown the ratings and the At Large spot, and sneak a team into the CFP... we're looking at MAYBE $4 mill (inflation) per year per team. Our absolute max is $12 mill under perfect conditions and long term.

My gut says 6-8 is the sweet spot.

I think if we can lure Army and BYU, we can hit that $12 mill per year per team mark. Fingers crossed.

I want to know, when Army joined CUSA, how much higher did the value of that contract go?

Markets weren't view as they are now, Redvolution... The new negotiations methods for increasing tv revenue are markets... I believe this time an Army type program could help a league like the AAC.

Possibly. But then the question that would need to be answered is "Does Army football prompt ESPN to give the American $156 million more on its current contract?" because it would take that much to bring us at $12 million per school/year. Even if we want to get bumped up to $10 million a year, would Army football bring enough value for ESPN to shell out $130 million more to our league?

(08-20-2014 05:38 PM)goodknightfl Wrote:  

(08-20-2014 01:42 PM)Redvolution Wrote:  

(08-20-2014 01:11 PM)perimeterpost Wrote:  to put the MAC's $124 million/13yr deal into context, based on the terms of the CFP contract with ESPN, over the next 12 years each P5 conference will receive at least $180m more than all of the G5 conferences combined.

And with the successful inaugural season (Fiesta Bowl win vs B12 champion, Men's and Women's Nat'l championships), the midway point look-in (after year 3) looks more promising for a big jump as time goes on.

We may get a jump, but those who think 10 mil plus are crazy. It isn't going to happen. If we are lucky we double the current deal.

I've never claimed the $10 million/team/year number that you might see around here.

ESPN will tear the league apart again before we even start negotiating the next deal.

(08-20-2014 05:38 PM)goodknightfl Wrote:  

(08-20-2014 01:42 PM)Redvolution Wrote:  

(08-20-2014 01:11 PM)perimeterpost Wrote:  to put the MAC's $124 million/13yr deal into context, based on the terms of the CFP contract with ESPN, over the next 12 years each P5 conference will receive at least $180m more than all of the G5 conferences combined.

And with the successful inaugural season (Fiesta Bowl win vs B12 champion, Men's and Women's Nat'l championships), the midway point look-in (after year 3) looks more promising for a big jump as time goes on.

We may get a jump, but those who think 10 mil plus are crazy. It isn't going to happen. If we are lucky we double the current deal.

espn was willing to offer a league with WVU, pitt rutgers & louisville as football headliners a 15mil per a year deal. you can argue thats better but a 2mil to 15mil difference?.. especially counting inflation.. that you think they are worth 15 mil in the mid 2000's and we are worth 4mil in 2020

an 8 to 10mil per goal isnt that crazy if we are stable and handle business on the field.. in the next 4 to 5 years start making ucf/ecu/usf a more household name, reintroduce, smu/houston/tulane to the world and raise the football profiles of uconn, memphis and temple with the very good oamount of exposure from our current deal..i see no reason why that is "crazy"..

look at the acc remove fsu , vt and clemson on a tv interest value our tv rating (if they are given the same type of slots) would get similar ratings to the rest of the ACC..if you think those 3 teams are big enough to carry the 22mil to 280mil a year difference i dont know what to tell you..
getting to a 100-150 range isnt that crazy to me (if we win)

if we can semi-replicate last years results over the next 4 years, i wouldn't be surprised to see 8 to 10 mil per..maybe more if we get some playoff teams