I'm starting to think that they like Maddie's running and are hoping he'll pull together enough in the passing game that they can choose him.

(08-19-2014 03:35 PM)NIU007 Wrote:  I'm starting to think that they like Maddie's running and are hoping he'll pull together enough in the passing game that they can choose him.

I wonder if there is some temptation brought on by the ghost of Lynch. It might be hard to let go of that crutch Lynch provided for so long, perhaps its a bit overwhelming for the coaches. Not seeing any of the practices, hearing people's accounts of what they saw, the personnel you have returning on this team, my gut tells me Hare is the best fit.

(08-19-2014 09:55 PM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote:  

(08-19-2014 03:35 PM)NIU007 Wrote:  I'm starting to think that they like Maddie's running and are hoping he'll pull together enough in the passing game that they can choose him.

I wonder if there is some temptation brought on by the ghost of Lynch. It might be hard to let go of that crutch Lynch provided for so long, perhaps its a bit overwhelming for the coaches. Not seeing any of the practices, hearing people's accounts of what they saw, the personnel you have returning on this team, my gut tells me Hare is the best fit.

Solid point about the potential "ghost of Lynch" phenomenon.

(08-19-2014 09:55 PM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote:  

(08-19-2014 03:35 PM)NIU007 Wrote:  I'm starting to think that they like Maddie's running and are hoping he'll pull together enough in the passing game that they can choose him.

I wonder if there is some temptation brought on by the ghost of Lynch. It might be hard to let go of that crutch Lynch provided for so long, perhaps its a bit overwhelming for the coaches. Not seeing any of the practices, hearing people's accounts of what they saw, the personnel you have returning on this team, my gut tells me Hare is the best fit.

Or the fact they want a mobile QB....?

(08-20-2014 07:25 AM)7 Wrote:  

(08-19-2014 09:55 PM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote:  

(08-19-2014 03:35 PM)NIU007 Wrote:  I'm starting to think that they like Maddie's running and are hoping he'll pull together enough in the passing game that they can choose him.

I wonder if there is some temptation brought on by the ghost of Lynch. It might be hard to let go of that crutch Lynch provided for so long, perhaps its a bit overwhelming for the coaches. Not seeing any of the practices, hearing people's accounts of what they saw, the personnel you have returning on this team, my gut tells me Hare is the best fit.

Or the fact they want a mobile QB....?

That does appear to be the system they are running in the DeKalb.

Also, Jordan Lynch's ghost could still truck you.

(08-18-2014 04:00 PM)HuskieJWN Wrote:  

(08-18-2014 03:57 PM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote:  

(08-18-2014 03:54 PM)HuskieJWN Wrote:  If you guys don't think Carey can evaluate talent you're morons. They have a plan. It's not their fault nobody is outplaying each other especially since they don't have almost any live game to go off.

Teams in high school, college, and the NFL take time to announce their starter. I can think of at least 5 schools offhand that haven't named a starter yet or literally just named one Saturday.

It comes off as a coach who cant make a decision, it really does. But the bigger drawback to me is that essentially the things that should have been done in the summer are going to work themselves out in week 1 and 2 and it just puts everyone behind the power curve.

Oh so coaches can't make a decision? You know how half the coaches don't name starters within 10 days of the first game? It doesn't happen perfectly like you guys think.

****, coaches make QB changes in the middle of the season all the time. The dude can make decisions. You're basically saying Bob Cole and Carey have no clue at making a choice and running with it.

Some hack coach named Nick Saban has not selected a starting QB yet either. Clearly this guy cant make a decision or evaluate players.

Alabama’s quarterback battle is far from being decided. There’s a chance the competition won’t be over until after the season opener. Like last week, Saban said Sims and Coker will continue their rotation of taking one practice as the starter and the next as the backup. Saban added he is confident in both players.
“Somebody has got to take the job,” Saban said. “One day one guy plays really well and you say, ‘Well, that looks like that might be it.’ And the next day the other guy plays really well. I think the good news is we have two guys that I would feel very comfortable playing. I think this competition has helped us develop several players.”

http://www.annistonstar.com/sports/artic...963f4.html

The longer this goes on to me the better are Hare's chances of winning the position. It's easy to say at this point McIntosh despite being with the team the longest just hasn't overwhelmed.

With Hare being the worst runner of the bunch, I think it spilling over into the Hoes game gives him the worst shot of all 3. That would probably favor Maddie the most.

http://www.startribune.com/sports/gopher...66901.html

Wisconsin is waiting until its opener to announce their QB. Seems to be a thing this year.

(08-20-2014 01:42 PM)NIU1981 Wrote:  http://www.startribune.com/sports/gopher...66901.html

Wisconsin is waiting until its opener to announce their QB. Seems to be a thing this year.

It's an issue for different teams every year. We just never noticed it because we had Jordan F***** Lynch and before that Chandler F***** Harnish.

Maddie's a strong kid....

Reps 315 lbs. 6 times

(08-20-2014 01:39 PM)7 Wrote:  With Hare being the worst runner of the bunch, I think it spilling over into the Hoes game gives him the worst shot of all 3. That would probably favor Maddie the most.

I agree with your logic, 7.

Let me add this...
I believe the coaches put a premium on QB mobility and are allowing Maddie (the most mobile of the three) the maximum amount of time to fine tune his passing game so when then announce him, he demonstrates his best passing capability to an on-looking universe of fans. On the flip side, if Maddie can't make the cut in the passing department, they have the peace of mind knowing they gave him every opportunity to fine tune his passing game.

In the end, the NIU program wins because the competition has elevated all 3 of them.

(08-20-2014 02:36 PM)NIU8484 Wrote:  Maddie's a strong kid....

Reps 315 lbs. 6 times

Would be curious to know how much Lynch benched as a Sophomore...

(08-19-2014 12:33 PM)7 Wrote:  

(08-19-2014 12:21 PM)timxlydon Wrote:  

(08-19-2014 11:43 AM)klake87 Wrote:  Does the fact that, by what we hear,(not always the truth), that because none of the three is a clear cut winner, If Root is a stud (don't know this to be true), he might start next year if his talent and ability is superior to the other three?

Unless this year's QB plays like Lynch or Harnish, I think Root will be given a chance to compete for the starting job next season.

Why? Root was a good recruit, but why is he being treated like a high school All-American on here? You're gonna tell me if Mcintosh is named the starter, has a solid year, and is going to be a senior next year they're gonna open up a QB competition? Not a chance. Or if Maddie comes in, throws for 2500 yards, runs for 750, they're going to let Root have a chance and not see if Maddie takes a step forward as a Junior?

No way. It's going to a take a cluster**** of multiple QBs playing mediocre for Root to have a chance at the job next year. Pretty much a worst case thing.

Root's ceiling is at a completely different level than the three competing right now

(08-20-2014 04:41 PM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote:  

(08-19-2014 12:33 PM)7 Wrote:  

(08-19-2014 12:21 PM)timxlydon Wrote:  

(08-19-2014 11:43 AM)klake87 Wrote:  Does the fact that, by what we hear,(not always the truth), that because none of the three is a clear cut winner, If Root is a stud (don't know this to be true), he might start next year if his talent and ability is superior to the other three?

Unless this year's QB plays like Lynch or Harnish, I think Root will be given a chance to compete for the starting job next season.

Why? Root was a good recruit, but why is he being treated like a high school All-American on here? You're gonna tell me if Mcintosh is named the starter, has a solid year, and is going to be a senior next year they're gonna open up a QB competition? Not a chance. Or if Maddie comes in, throws for 2500 yards, runs for 750, they're going to let Root have a chance and not see if Maddie takes a step forward as a Junior?

No way. It's going to a take a cluster**** of multiple QBs playing mediocre for Root to have a chance at the job next year. Pretty much a worst case thing.

Root's ceiling is at a completely different level than the three competing right now

How do you know this with fact? You've never seen an entire game with Root, especially at this level?

When did Kansas become a powerhouse football state? Was he absolutely dominant?

Please base your opinion with some sort of logic or fact behind it. Are you just stating this because he was a 3 star?

(08-20-2014 05:12 PM)HuskieJWN Wrote:  

(08-20-2014 04:41 PM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote:  

(08-19-2014 12:33 PM)7 Wrote:  

(08-19-2014 12:21 PM)timxlydon Wrote:  

(08-19-2014 11:43 AM)klake87 Wrote:  Does the fact that, by what we hear,(not always the truth), that because none of the three is a clear cut winner, If Root is a stud (don't know this to be true), he might start next year if his talent and ability is superior to the other three?

Unless this year's QB plays like Lynch or Harnish, I think Root will be given a chance to compete for the starting job next season.

Why? Root was a good recruit, but why is he being treated like a high school All-American on here? You're gonna tell me if Mcintosh is named the starter, has a solid year, and is going to be a senior next year they're gonna open up a QB competition? Not a chance. Or if Maddie comes in, throws for 2500 yards, runs for 750, they're going to let Root have a chance and not see if Maddie takes a step forward as a Junior?

No way. It's going to a take a cluster**** of multiple QBs playing mediocre for Root to have a chance at the job next year. Pretty much a worst case thing.

Root's ceiling is at a completely different level than the three competing right now

How do you know this with fact? You've never seen an entire game with Root, especially at this level?

When did Kansas become a powerhouse football state? Was he absolutely dominant?

Please base your opinion with some sort of logic or fact behind it. Are you just stating this because he was a 3 star?

I am predicting that Root will have a chance at competing for the job next year based on what has been said about him from the practices and the fact that there is no clear cut guy. Multiple people (who aren't MD) said Root looked like the best QB during the drills. Now there is a lot of football to be played, so anything could happen. If one of the current guys plays lights out, then there would be no reason to think twice.

I also acknowledge that Root may never start a game for the Huskies and could be a real scrub when given his shot.

(08-20-2014 05:31 PM)timxlydon Wrote:  

(08-20-2014 05:12 PM)HuskieJWN Wrote:  

(08-20-2014 04:41 PM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote:  

(08-19-2014 12:33 PM)7 Wrote:  

(08-19-2014 12:21 PM)timxlydon Wrote:  Unless this year's QB plays like Lynch or Harnish, I think Root will be given a chance to compete for the starting job next season.

Why? Root was a good recruit, but why is he being treated like a high school All-American on here? You're gonna tell me if Mcintosh is named the starter, has a solid year, and is going to be a senior next year they're gonna open up a QB competition? Not a chance. Or if Maddie comes in, throws for 2500 yards, runs for 750, they're going to let Root have a chance and not see if Maddie takes a step forward as a Junior?

No way. It's going to a take a cluster**** of multiple QBs playing mediocre for Root to have a chance at the job next year. Pretty much a worst case thing.

Root's ceiling is at a completely different level than the three competing right now

How do you know this with fact? You've never seen an entire game with Root, especially at this level?

When did Kansas become a powerhouse football state? Was he absolutely dominant?

Please base your opinion with some sort of logic or fact behind it. Are you just stating this because he was a 3 star?

I am predicting that Root will have a chance at competing for the job next year based on what has been said about him from the practices and the fact that there is no clear cut guy. Multiple people (who aren't MD) said Root looked like the best QB during the drills. Now there is a lot of football to be played, so anything could happen. If one of the current guys plays lights out, then there would be no reason to think twice.

I also acknowledge that Root may never start a game for the Huskies and could be a real scrub when given his shot.

Saying he's the best in drills in everything is one thing. The day I went, he was not.

To say his ceiling is higher than anyone else's and it's at a whole different level, is quite another.

To be honest, I thought he was more of a pocket passer prospect, which isn't going to give you the highest ceiling in this offense.

If this kid was Gatorade player of the year in Texas or Florida and absolutely dominated, then you could say his ceiling is at a whole different level. He's never even taken a live college snap, and people have been throwing around crazy references (the manning and Brady ones sarcastic or not)

(08-20-2014 04:11 PM)3OrangeWhips Wrote:  

(08-20-2014 02:36 PM)NIU8484 Wrote:  Maddie's a strong kid....

Reps 315 lbs. 6 times

Would be curious to know how much Lynch benched as a Sophomore...

They wouldn't let him... It would have f*^&ed up Earth's gravitational field.

I'm not gonna poke fun at MD's Root love because the kid does look damn good, but Maddie was a 3-star too with just-as-impressive highlights. I'm hoping Maddie is so good that Root has to transfer or wait 3 years to play.

(08-21-2014 02:01 PM)cawoo22 Wrote:  

(08-20-2014 04:11 PM)3OrangeWhips Wrote:  

(08-20-2014 02:36 PM)NIU8484 Wrote:  Maddie's a strong kid....

Reps 315 lbs. 6 times

Would be curious to know how much Lynch benched as a Sophomore...

They wouldn't let him... It would have f*^&ed up Earth's gravitational field.

How many times could he bench Chuck Norris?