(08-19-2014 09:41 AM)emu steve Wrote:  

(08-19-2014 09:33 AM)Miami (Oh) Yeah ! Wrote:  Ralph D. Russo ‏@ralphDrussoAP 2m
Hearing MAC deal is 9 figures.Safe to assume it's closer to $100 million than $900 million. Previous deal paid about $1 million per yr.Raise

Assuming 12 team league:

1M / year per school would be: 12 (teams) x 13 (years) x 1M (per team) or $156M.

Will it be 1M / school for the next year or two or three? I doubt it.

I can see say 500K then 750K and then 1M and then say 'inflationary' increases thereafter.

I definitely assume it will be 1M+ / school by say the 4th year (the first 'new' year of the contract).

I'm hoping USA Today or some other paper which is good at covering sports television will get the scoop. :)

what about this comment ?"lthough the continuation of the MAC’s deal with ESPN in no way rivals the mega-TV deals of SEC, Big Ten and other major conferences, it does favorably position the MAC ahead of the other schools in the Group of Five conferences (the American, Conference USA, Mountain West, Sun Belt and MAC)." i guess this is not really true then

(08-19-2014 09:38 AM)BobL Wrote:  

(08-19-2014 09:37 AM)Miami (Oh) Yeah ! Wrote:  

(08-19-2014 09:34 AM)forphase1 Wrote:  8 million a year or so is what's being tweeted now.

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Source?

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Brett McMurphy ‏@McMurphyESPN 4m
New MAC 13-year deal w/ESPN worth over $100M, about $8M/year industry sources told @ESPN #MACtion

I can say I was disappointed when McMurphy broke the news on the AAC numbers. The AAC board assumed that this included only first tier rights. Turned out McMurphy was right. Unfortunately, he is usually correct. When they say 8 million a year, that's an average, Industry standard is to back load the deal, so it's likely is well under 8 million early in the deal and well over by the end of the deal. Still, the average will be 8 million a year--which is what gets reported. Maybe there are performance clauses that could bump up the numbers---but an 8 fold increase is not bad.

(08-19-2014 09:57 AM)cmufanatic Wrote:  

(08-19-2014 09:41 AM)emu steve Wrote:  

(08-19-2014 09:33 AM)Miami (Oh) Yeah ! Wrote:  Ralph D. Russo ‏@ralphDrussoAP 2m
Hearing MAC deal is 9 figures.Safe to assume it's closer to $100 million than $900 million. Previous deal paid about $1 million per yr.Raise

Assuming 12 team league:

1M / year per school would be: 12 (teams) x 13 (years) x 1M (per team) or $156M.

Will it be 1M / school for the next year or two or three? I doubt it.

I can see say 500K then 750K and then 1M and then say 'inflationary' increases thereafter.

I definitely assume it will be 1M+ / school by say the 4th year (the first 'new' year of the contract).

I'm hoping USA Today or some other paper which is good at covering sports television will get the scoop. :)

what about this comment ?"lthough the continuation of the MAC’s deal with ESPN in no way rivals the mega-TV deals of SEC, Big Ten and other major conferences, it does favorably position the MAC ahead of the other schools in the Group of Five conferences (the American, Conference USA, Mountain West, Sun Belt and MAC)." i guess this is not really true then

The article was edited later to remove a "the" from that statement so that it indicates the 'MAC is front of other schools in the G5' rather than 'MAC is in front of THE other schools of the G5'. Then it was edited again and the wording was completely changed to ---

Although the continuation of the MAC’s deal with ESPN in no way rivals the mega-TV deals of SEC, Big Ten and other major conferences, it does favorably position the MAC along with the other peer members of the Group of Five (the American, Conference USA, Mountain West, Sun Belt and MAC), at least until those conferences renegotiate their deals. One source said the MAC's new agreement will be worth around “nine figures” over the length of the deal.

$8million??

Good Crain's article on the new deal with some key comments.

http://www.crainscleveland.com/article/2...ough-2027#

"The contract guarantees that every football game will be available on ESPN3, as well as select men’s and women’s basketball contests, and Olympic sports."

"Steinbrecher said he expects ESPN’s TV coverage of MAC football would “continue to be in the November midweek window” in future years. “We don’t anticipate going beyond there,” Steinbrecher said."

"Mangus said the “sublicensing part” of the agreement is “noteworthy. We can go to regional carriers and sell programming. It runs through ESPN, and we’ve shown great flexibility and relationships with other carriers.”

(08-19-2014 10:31 AM)HuskieTap22 Wrote:  Good Crain's article on the new deal with some key comments.

http://www.crainscleveland.com/article/2...ough-2027#

"The contract guarantees that every football game will be available on ESPN3, as well as select men’s and women’s basketball contests, and Olympic sports."

"Steinbrecher said he expects ESPN’s TV coverage of MAC football would “continue to be in the November midweek window” in future years. “We don’t anticipate going beyond there,” Steinbrecher said."

"Mangus said the “sublicensing part” of the agreement is “noteworthy. We can go to regional carriers and sell programming. It runs through ESPN, and we’ve shown great flexibility and relationships with other carriers.”

i am sorry not a fan, i am sure steinbrecher could have reached out to another network so as not to sell the MAC out to play damn novemebr weeknight games. It looks ridiculous on tv and the paying ticket holders cannot go to the damn games

(08-19-2014 10:31 AM)HuskieTap22 Wrote:  Good Crain's article on the new deal with some key comments.

http://www.crainscleveland.com/article/2...ough-2027#

"The contract guarantees that every football game will be available on ESPN3, as well as select men’s and women’s basketball contests, and Olympic sports."

"Steinbrecher said he expects ESPN’s TV coverage of MAC football would “continue to be in the November midweek window” in future years. “We don’t anticipate going beyond there,” Steinbrecher said."

"Mangus said the “sublicensing part” of the agreement is “noteworthy. We can go to regional carriers and sell programming. It runs through ESPN, and we’ve shown great flexibility and relationships with other carriers.”

something interesting is ESPN prohibited your commish from talking about it, meaning they want to keep certain details secret

and with every AAC game and now every Mac game atleast on espn3, the amount of announcers required for espn is getting up their especially adding the SEC network and plans to make the ACC network

but looks like the selling point for the contract was espn3 and its dramatically expanded coverage of mac games revenue and non revenue sports which your commish seems most excited about

(08-19-2014 10:34 AM)cmufanatic Wrote:  

(08-19-2014 10:31 AM)HuskieTap22 Wrote:  Good Crain's article on the new deal with some key comments.

http://www.crainscleveland.com/article/2...ough-2027#

"The contract guarantees that every football game will be available on ESPN3, as well as select men’s and women’s basketball contests, and Olympic sports."

"Steinbrecher said he expects ESPN’s TV coverage of MAC football would “continue to be in the November midweek window” in future years. “We don’t anticipate going beyond there,” Steinbrecher said."

"Mangus said the “sublicensing part” of the agreement is “noteworthy. We can go to regional carriers and sell programming. It runs through ESPN, and we’ve shown great flexibility and relationships with other carriers.”

i am sorry not a fan, i am sure steinbrecher could have reached out to another network so as not to sell the MAC out to play damn novemebr weeknight games. It looks ridiculous on tv and the paying ticket holders cannot go to the damn games

Sorry, I disagree with you.

I doubt we'll ever see MAC sports on multiple networks (e.g., ESPN family and say Fox Sports 1 or the CBS or NBC sports networks.)

Normally these deals are for all the marbles, i.e., rights to ALL (home) games, i.e., ALL MAC games and all MAC home OOC games.

I think ESPN is paying big (if the bucks are big) FOR THOSE NOVEMBER NIGHT GAMES. [They aren't paying for EMU/Kent on an already full October Saturday afternoon.]

Those November mid-week games are the MAC's niche.

I don't get the animosity to ESPN3. That said, maybe a B1G game at say Toledo, NIU, etc. can be sold to a local channel for a few bucks.

E.g., in 2020, MSU will visit EMU (at Rynearson or maybe [???] Ford Field) and that game could be 'sold' to say Fox Sports Detroit to get it on television.

More deets on the new deal:

http://www.cleveland.com/sports/college/...cart_river

"It is understood, as the deal plays out, the ability to get regional providers (such as Time Warner Cable, STO) to broadcast games will play a big part in that exposure."

"There is a self-production component to this," Steinbrecher said. "Within four years all men's basketball games will be shown on an ESPN platform.''

"ESPN and the MAC are clearly banking on technology being able to integrate both TV and the internet into one, so ESPN3"

"We are using football to drive basketball. For this year, at least, there will be a Friday night ESPN TV component during the conference season.

(08-19-2014 12:10 PM)HuskieTap22 Wrote:  <snip>
"There is a self-production component to this," Steinbrecher said. "Within four years all men's basketball games will be shown on an ESPN platform.''

"ESPN and the MAC are clearly banking on technology being able to integrate both TV and the internet into one, so ESPN3"
<snip>

I'm guessing when he says "an ESPN platform", he isn't talking about the existing ESPN networks. And obviously, if 4 MAC basketball games are all going on at 7PM on a Thursday night, they're not all going on ESPN3.

I wouldn't be surprised to see ESPN do something like the B1G Ten Network, and have ESPN-MAC, with a regional footprint, with important games moving up to other ESPN networks. It'll help box out other sports networks from the content.

(08-19-2014 12:25 PM)Slinkin Street Flash Wrote:  

(08-19-2014 12:10 PM)HuskieTap22 Wrote:  <snip>
"There is a self-production component to this," Steinbrecher said. "Within four years all men's basketball games will be shown on an ESPN platform.''

"ESPN and the MAC are clearly banking on technology being able to integrate both TV and the internet into one, so ESPN3"
<snip>

I'm guessing when he says "an ESPN platform", he isn't talking about the existing ESPN networks. And obviously, if 4 MAC basketball games are all going on at 7PM on a Thursday night, they're not all going on ESPN3.

I wouldn't be surprised to see ESPN do something like the B1G Ten Network, and have ESPN-MAC, with a regional footprint, with important games moving up to other ESPN networks. It'll help box out other sports networks from the content.

I think its more likely that they continue to grow the ESPN-3 brand. Didn't they reorganize ESPN-3 to create conference specific "networks". My guess is that most of the MAC basketball will be on ESPN-3 "MAC Network". Some of the bigger MAC basketball games might make their way to an ESPN cable network like ESPN-U or ESPN-News.

This deal is about half what the MAC is worth. And that's at the present time. How bad will this look ten years from now? It's a repeat of the previous deal, locked into a stupidly low rate for a stupidly long period of time.

The A10 gets 5 M per year for bb. So does MAC BB have any value. Say 7.5M Football and 500K for BB


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(08-19-2014 02:09 PM)uakronkid Wrote:  This deal is about half what the MAC is worth. And that's at the present time. How bad will this look ten years from now? It's a repeat of the previous deal, locked into a stupidly low rate for a stupidly long period of time.

That's what I was thinking. If we aren't already, several years from now we'll be wondering how the heck we ended up being tied to such a low amount for so long. Just like last time.

The market speaks.

(08-19-2014 02:16 PM)NIU007 Wrote:  

(08-19-2014 02:09 PM)uakronkid Wrote:  This deal is about half what the MAC is worth. And that's at the present time. How bad will this look ten years from now? It's a repeat of the previous deal, locked into a stupidly low rate for a stupidly long period of time.

That's what I was thinking. If we aren't already, several years from now we'll be wondering how the heck we ended up being tied to such a low amount for so long. Just like last time.

Here is what I think may have tipped the balance--the long extension is what was needed to draw ESPN into renegotiation talks (remember, the current agreement has 3 more years, ESPN didn't need to do anything). With new P5 autonomous expenses just around the bend, the MAC was interested in getting extra funds NOW. The extra 600K+ will pay for virtually all the new stipends and the 1 million per team CFP money will allow the MAC to maybe match some of the other P5 benefits (for instance, maybe offering travel for the family of players to bowl games). Getting that money now (plus getting better exposure for basketball) was maybe more important to the schools than seeing a marginally better contract amount by waiting.

(08-19-2014 02:33 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(08-19-2014 02:16 PM)NIU007 Wrote:  

(08-19-2014 02:09 PM)uakronkid Wrote:  This deal is about half what the MAC is worth. And that's at the present time. How bad will this look ten years from now? It's a repeat of the previous deal, locked into a stupidly low rate for a stupidly long period of time.

That's what I was thinking. If we aren't already, several years from now we'll be wondering how the heck we ended up being tied to such a low amount for so long. Just like last time.

Here is what I think may have tipped the balance--the long extension is what was needed to draw ESPN into renegotiation talks (remember, the current agreement has 3 more years, ESPN didn't need to do anything). With new P5 autonomous expenses just around the bend, the MAC was interested in getting extra funds NOW. The extra 600K+ will pay for virtually all the new stipends and the 1 million per team CFP money will allow the MAC to maybe match some of the other P5 benefits (for instance, maybe offering travel for the family of players to bowl games). Getting that money now (plus getting better exposure for basketball) was maybe more important to the schools than seeing a marginally better contract amount by waiting.

Yea, you're probably right.

(08-19-2014 02:33 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(08-19-2014 02:16 PM)NIU007 Wrote:  

(08-19-2014 02:09 PM)uakronkid Wrote:  This deal is about half what the MAC is worth. And that's at the present time. How bad will this look ten years from now? It's a repeat of the previous deal, locked into a stupidly low rate for a stupidly long period of time.

That's what I was thinking. If we aren't already, several years from now we'll be wondering how the heck we ended up being tied to such a low amount for so long. Just like last time.

Here is what I think may have tipped the balance--the long extension is what was needed to draw ESPN into renegotiation talks (remember, the current agreement has 3 more years, ESPN didn't need to do anything). With new P5 autonomous expenses just around the bend, the MAC was interested in getting extra funds NOW. The extra 600K+ will pay for virtually all the new stipends and the 1 million per team CFP money will allow the MAC to maybe match some of the other P5 benefits (for instance, maybe offering travel for the family of players to bowl games). Getting that money now (plus getting better exposure for basketball) was maybe more important to the schools than seeing a marginally better contract amount by waiting.

I agree with your points. College sports are going to get more expenses for everyone, UofMichigan and Eastern Michigan.

I can see the 600K toward funding this new prospective expense and the additional funds from the college football playoffs (versus BCS) will allow MAC schools to schedule more home and home vs. G5 schools and less of those 'body bag' games vs. Florida, Alabama, LSU, OSU, etc.

(08-18-2014 07:33 PM)BruceMcF Wrote:  

(08-18-2014 06:40 PM)emu steve Wrote:  MAC, ESPN agree to new deal

Updated: August 18, 2014, 5:15 PM ET

By Brett McMurphy | ESPN

Insider

The Mid-American Conference and ESPN have agreed to a new 13-year media rights deal through 2026-27, an industry source told ESPN.

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I love stories like this one. ;-)

An industry source told ESPN that ESPN has agreed to a new media rights contract with the MAC.

So ESPN is sourcing someone else as to what ESPN is doing...

Who said it was someone else? Brett McMurphey is on the way back to his office/cubicle from the coffee machine, and Joe yells over, "Hey, Brett, we've got agreement with the MAC. You want some copy?" There you go, Joe in the next office/cubicle over is his "Industry Source".

Actually, you could be right. ESPN could be the source with deniability.

I'm sure a White House staffer will tell AP (or another new outlet) something 'off the record' and it will be circulated.

Then someone else in the White House will quote the AP report when discussing the topic and AP becomes the source (even though they were really a conduit for the leak).

That is how information moves with unnamed sources.

Does that new contract include the CCG?