The crybaby Pitt fan is crying again? Oh lawd...

(08-11-2014 06:53 AM)Ragu Wrote:  

(08-10-2014 09:03 PM)Dr. Isaly von Yinzer Wrote:  

(08-10-2014 08:57 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  We would need to get Kleenex to become a major sponsor in order to keep enough around for all the whining you would do.

And does FSU and Florida State just use the outcome of their spring game or do they have to have an intra-squad scrimmage during the regular season?

1. The first part is an incredibly ironic statement considering it's source. That's sort of like being called a douche by Justin Bieber.

2. I always thought FSU and Florida State were one and the same. Joining this league has certainly been a learning process and an exercise in patience.

I think he's referring to you listing Florida State twice in your arrangement.

Once again, you cry as much as anyone on here and whining about the whiners is ironic to say the least.

Pitt fans don't need to complain because they have what they want right now .You have said that many of times and that is why you complain on hypothetical arrangements that you dont see as beneficial to Pitt.

Don't forget the classic "everything Pitt gave up" to join the ACC sob story.

The dastardly ACC just went in and snatched poor, innocent Pitt away from the comforting bosom of the Big East and forbid them from ever playing any of their traditional rivals again.

If we keep but rearrange the divisions I dont think you can break them down into north/south or east/west and make a majority of fans happy. Why not a line up like this;

FSU Miami
Clemson UL
GT BC
Virg VT
NC NC St
Duke WF
Pitt Syr

I prefer dropping divisions & playing 3 set "rivals" & 5 rotating or even 5 "rivals" & 4 rotating.

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As far as the original OP, no.

I do like the 3-5-5 concept. I also like the concept of a 3-game scheduling agreement (Navy?) to compliment NDs 5 games. ND & Navy would not count as conference games but it might help with scheduling.

(08-16-2014 11:34 AM)Wolfman Wrote:  As far as the original OP, no.

I do like the 3-5-5 concept. I also like the concept of a 3-game scheduling agreement (Navy?) to compliment NDs 5 games. ND & Navy would not count as conference games but it might help with scheduling.

IMO, if there was going to be another scheduling agreement, it would need to be for 9 more games (5+9=14).

Such an arrangement could be with the Big XII conference (along with one Notre Dame vs. Big XII game) like this:


[Could an ACC-Notre Dame-Big XII alliance work?]
__________

Or, you could simply have a voluntary but informal scheduling agreement with the Big Ten, which is basically what we have coming up over the next few years anyway in the Coastal division (though I wouldn't really call that an "agreement"):

Coastal Division OOC Games 2014-16

Atlantic Division OOC Games 2014-16

(08-10-2014 11:09 AM)ren.hoek Wrote:  How would everyone feel about these divisions and crossovers? It's roughly north-south, and is admittedly heavy on the south
BC-Clemson
Syracuse-Miami
Pitt-GT
Louisville-FSU
UVA-VT
UNC-NCSU
Duke-WF

You've split up:
GT-Duke
GT-UNC
BC-Miami

If you take the bottom three and flip 'em ... and swap crossovers between Miami and Clemson ... you may be in business.

3-5-5?

3 rivals ... 5 ? ... 5 ?

(08-16-2014 09:22 PM)georgia_tech_swagger Wrote:  3-5-5?

3 rivals ... 5 ? ... 5 ?

3 permanent rivals, 5 teams on one rotation 5 teams on another. You play every team in the conference home and home every four years.

(08-16-2014 10:57 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  

(08-16-2014 09:22 PM)georgia_tech_swagger Wrote:  3-5-5?

3 rivals ... 5 ? ... 5 ?

3 permanent rivals, 5 teams on one rotation 5 teams on another. You play every team in the conference home and home every four years.

My favorite link:
http://sportspolitico.com/2014/02/15/no-divisions/

explains this concept perfectly.

I like the divisions as are but would like to see a true North/South line up in the future with expansion of two teams.

North
Boston College
Syracuse
Pitt
Virginia
Virginia Tech
Louisville
Cincinnati
Notre Dame/WVU

South
Wake Forest
Duke
UNC
NC State
Clemson
Georgia Tech
FSU
Miami

For future reference only but very good balance across the board. This would also be the start of 10 conference football games.

(08-17-2014 12:26 PM)cardshouse Wrote:  I like the divisions as are but would like to see a true North/South line up in the future with expansion of two teams.

North
Boston College
Syracuse
Pitt
Virginia
Virginia Tech
Louisville
Cincinnati
Notre Dame/WVU

South
Wake Forest
Duke
UNC
NC State
Clemson
Georgia Tech
FSU
Miami

For future reference only but very good balance across the board. This would also be the start of 10 conference football games.

UVA would end up in the b1g. They would hate that setup. Need to keep them, UNC and duke together.




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Virginia would still get to play those teams just about every other year. It might be possible to switch Virginia and Wake. There are possibilities and I would assume Virginia would gain more revenue by playing the likes of Va. Tech, Pitt, ND/WVU. Things change.

(08-11-2014 06:53 AM)Ragu Wrote:  

(08-10-2014 09:03 PM)Dr. Isaly von Yinzer Wrote:  

(08-10-2014 08:57 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  We would need to get Kleenex to become a major sponsor in order to keep enough around for all the whining you would do.

And does FSU and Florida State just use the outcome of their spring game or do they have to have an intra-squad scrimmage during the regular season?

1. The first part is an incredibly ironic statement considering it's source. That's sort of like being called a douche by Justin Bieber.

2. I always thought FSU and Florida State were one and the same. Joining this league has certainly been a learning process and an exercise in patience.

I think he's referring to you listing Florida State twice in your arrangement.

Once again, you cry as much as anyone on here and whining about the whiners is ironic to say the least.

Pitt fans don't need to complain because they have what they want right now .You have said that many of times and that is why you complain on hypothetical arrangements that you dont see as beneficial to Pitt.

Here's the difference, chief. You are whining because you aren't getting EVERYTHING you want. My concerns are over all of the proposals that don't seem to give us ANYTHING that we want.

Not. One. Thing.

Surely, you can reconcile that difference, can't you?

We didn't have anything to do with the current alignment. We were told where to report and when and we did so dutifully.

We're just not cool with now changing things so that some schools get everything they want (for now - more demands are sure to follow) because if they don't get what they want in its entirety, they'll kick and scream and piss and moan about it. I say let them cry.

You have said on more than one occasion that Pitt should get all 3 rivals that they want in these arrangements because they sacrificed oh so much for the ACC to have the honor of adding them....

Wanting to play the team closest to the school in the league is not an unreasonable expectation. The ACC is the only league where these things are an issue.

Does it really matter who your three set rivals are if you are playing the entire conference every other year? Especially if the traditional rivalries are preserved.

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Okay, that is fine. Then let's make a simple trade where everyone wins. Let's keep the divisions as they are except that we will give you Georgia Tech in exchange for Louisville.

Atlantic / Coastal
Boston College / Virginia
Clemson / Virginia Tech
Florida State / Miami
Georgia Tech / Louisville
NC State / North Carolina
Syracuse / Pitt
Wake Forest / Duke

That way everyone wins. You get the team that is closest to you geographically and the Coastal Division gets something of real value in return. It is also good for the fans of the Yellow Jackets and the Cardinals as these games fit in better with their natural geography as well.

So, how does that sound? I ask that knowing full well that the overwhelming odds are that you are going to balk at that more than fair proposal because it doesn't give you everything. If I have learned nothing else about dealing with you folks it is that you guys want everything and you don't want to give up anything. Well, you cannot have everything. If you don't like it, you really should go talk to the yokels over in the Big 12. I am positive that Texas and Oklahoma will give you everything you want, all you have to do is ask.

(08-18-2014 08:44 AM)Dr. Isaly von Yinzer Wrote:  Okay, that is fine. Then let's make a simple trade where everyone wins. Let's keep the divisions as they are except that we will give you Georgia Tech in exchange for Louisville.

Atlantic / Coastal
Boston College / Virginia
Clemson / Virginia Tech
Florida State / Miami
Georgia Tech / Louisville
NC State / North Carolina
Syracuse / Pitt
Wake Forest / Duke

That way everyone wins. You get the team that is closest to you geographically and the Coastal Division gets something of real value in return. It is also good for the fans of the Yellow Jackets and the Cardinals as these games fit in better with their natural geography as well.

So, how does that sound? I ask that knowing full well that the overwhelming odds are that you are going to balk at that more than fair proposal because it doesn't give you everything. If I have learned nothing else about dealing with you folks it is that you guys want everything and you don'st want to give up anything. Well, you cannot have everything. If you don't like it, you really should go talk to the yokels over in the Big 12. I am positive that Texas and Oklahoma will give you everytz
hing you want, all you have to do is ask.

I would be fine with that, I can see Miami & VT being rivals for us. As I have said, I would rather play the entire conference more often than just once every six years or so but if it doesnt happen I'm not going to whine or cry about it. We knew the division set up when we came in. What would you like to see happen?

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(08-17-2014 12:26 PM)cardshouse Wrote:  I like the divisions as are but would like to see a true North/South line up in the future with expansion of two teams.

North
Boston College
Syracuse
Pitt
Virginia
Virginia Tech
Louisville
Cincinnati
Notre Dame/WVU

South
Wake Forest
Duke
UNC
NC State
Clemson
Georgia Tech
FSU
Miami

For future reference only but very good balance across the board. This would also be the start of 10 conference football games.

There's so much "no" in this post.

At 16 teams there is zero point in keeping traditional divisions. And 10 conference games?

(08-18-2014 08:44 AM)Dr. Isaly von Yinzer Wrote:  Okay, that is fine. Then let's make a simple trade where everyone wins. Let's keep the divisions as they are except that we will give you Georgia Tech in exchange for Louisville.

Atlantic / Coastal
Boston College / Virginia
Clemson / Virginia Tech
Florida State / Miami
Georgia Tech / Louisville
NC State / North Carolina
Syracuse / Pitt
Wake Forest / Duke

That way everyone wins. You get the team that is closest to you geographically and the Coastal Division gets something of real value in return. It is also good for the fans of the Yellow Jackets and the Cardinals as these games fit in better with their natural geography as well.

So, how does that sound? I ask that knowing full well that the overwhelming odds are that you are going to balk at that more than fair proposal because it doesn't give you everything. If I have learned nothing else about dealing with you folks it is that you guys want everything and you don't want to give up anything. Well, you cannot have everything. If you don't like it, you really should go talk to the yokels over in the Big 12. I am positive that Texas and Oklahoma will give you everything you want, all you have to do is ask.

It's not FSU fans that would complain on that. It is the UNC/UVA/Duke crowd that would balk at losing GT for Louisville.

Also Syracuse/BC and UVA/Va Tech need to be split if you want a true zipper.

Pitt is going to get Syracuse and probably Miami or VT for sure. If you dont get the other, you get them every other year. Plus good matchups with FSU/Clemson every other year too. Pitt would survive.

the gt for lou swap is probably the easiest solution. better answer is 3-3-5. for clemson, i would want fsu, gt and ncsu every year. i can live with every other year for the rest. kap and i disagree on the ncsu pick...and a host of other issues too

(08-18-2014 08:44 AM)Dr. Isaly von Yinzer Wrote:  Okay, that is fine. Then let's make a simple trade where everyone wins. Let's keep the divisions as they are except that we will give you Georgia Tech in exchange for Louisville.

Atlantic / Coastal
Boston College / Virginia
Clemson / Virginia Tech
Florida State / Miami
Georgia Tech / Louisville
NC State / North Carolina
Syracuse / Pitt
Wake Forest / Duke

That way everyone wins. You get the team that is closest to you geographically and the Coastal Division gets something of real value in return. It is also good for the fans of the Yellow Jackets and the Cardinals as these games fit in better with their natural geography as well.

So, how does that sound? I ask that knowing full well that the overwhelming odds are that you are going to balk at that more than fair proposal because it doesn't give you everything. If I have learned nothing else about dealing with you folks it is that you guys want everything and you don't want to give up anything. Well, you cannot have everything. If you don't like it, you really should go talk to the yokels over in the Big 12. I am positive that Texas and Oklahoma will give you everything you want, all you have to do is ask.