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RE: Pot Use Among Colorado Teens Appears to Drop After Legalization
(08-08-2014 04:44 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  
(08-08-2014 04:34 PM)Smaug Wrote:  
(08-08-2014 04:30 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  
(08-08-2014 04:25 PM)Smaug Wrote:  
(08-08-2014 04:21 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  Wow, just wow.

Bow out Smaug. You don't understand. I'm sure in your mind you have made some kind of earth shattering point. WTF personal responsibility. Helping create a healthy society is my responsibility. Yours as well. Stop neglecting your responsibility Smaug.

Pot has already pacified many, and it will increase.

Study the Romans over the weekend. Broaden your understanding. Stop relying so much on the Gary Johnson talking points.

Not another word out of your pie hole about personal responsibility.

Go ahead Smaug. Enlighten me on how pot is helpful with all the dumb ass decisions this country is making...

I never said it was. But as unpleasant a prospect it is for you, adults in this country get to decide what's best for them, and you don't.

Sorry pal, that's not how a nation of laws work. This is not an anarchy.

It's my responsibility to promote and fight for a healthy society. It is your responsibility as well. Stop neglecting your personal responsibility, Smaug.

Once again, you clearly cannot comprehend how the govt actually controls you more by legalizing illicit drugs. You are what is refereed to as a useful idiot. Or a smart fool.

"Useful idiot"? Hell, at least I'm useful. You're just an idiot.

I'll type this slowly.

Here in America, you don't get to tell other people what to do. I know how much that must piss you off, but as soon as you settle in with that fact, the happier you'll be.

You're right about one thing: We are a nation of laws, and the law in Colorado is that pot is legal.

Don't like it? Don't smoke pot in Colorado.
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RE: Pot Use Among Colorado Teens Appears to Drop After Legalization
(08-08-2014 04:48 PM)Smaug Wrote:  
(08-08-2014 04:44 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  
(08-08-2014 04:34 PM)Smaug Wrote:  
(08-08-2014 04:30 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  
(08-08-2014 04:25 PM)Smaug Wrote:  Not another word out of your pie hole about personal responsibility.

Go ahead Smaug. Enlighten me on how pot is helpful with all the dumb ass decisions this country is making...

I never said it was. But as unpleasant a prospect it is for you, adults in this country get to decide what's best for them, and you don't.

Sorry pal, that's not how a nation of laws work. This is not an anarchy.

It's my responsibility to promote and fight for a healthy society. It is your responsibility as well. Stop neglecting your personal responsibility, Smaug.

Once again, you clearly cannot comprehend how the govt actually controls you more by legalizing illicit drugs. You are what is refereed to as a useful idiot. Or a smart fool.

"Useful idiot"? Hell, at least I'm useful. You're just an idiot.

I'll type this slowly.

Here in America, you don't get to tell other people what to do. I know how much that must piss you off, but as soon as you settle in with that fact, the happier you'll be.

You're right about one thing: We are a nation of laws, and the law in Colorado is that pot is legal.

Don't like it? Don't smoke pot in Colorado.

I'll type this even slower. I am not telling anyone what to do.

Stay on point. Your thought process is very chaotic and scattered.

I am suggesting that you stop neglecting your personal responsibility by promoting a toxic society. We have enough zombies. We don't need any more drugged zombies.
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RE: Pot Use Among Colorado Teens Appears to Drop After Legalization
(08-08-2014 04:51 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  
(08-08-2014 04:48 PM)Smaug Wrote:  
(08-08-2014 04:44 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  
(08-08-2014 04:34 PM)Smaug Wrote:  
(08-08-2014 04:30 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  Go ahead Smaug. Enlighten me on how pot is helpful with all the dumb ass decisions this country is making...

I never said it was. But as unpleasant a prospect it is for you, adults in this country get to decide what's best for them, and you don't.

Sorry pal, that's not how a nation of laws work. This is not an anarchy.

It's my responsibility to promote and fight for a healthy society. It is your responsibility as well. Stop neglecting your personal responsibility, Smaug.

Once again, you clearly cannot comprehend how the govt actually controls you more by legalizing illicit drugs. You are what is refereed to as a useful idiot. Or a smart fool.

"Useful idiot"? Hell, at least I'm useful. You're just an idiot.

I'll type this slowly.

Here in America, you don't get to tell other people what to do. I know how much that must piss you off, but as soon as you settle in with that fact, the happier you'll be.

You're right about one thing: We are a nation of laws, and the law in Colorado is that pot is legal.

Don't like it? Don't smoke pot in Colorado.

I'll type this even slower. I am not telling anyone what to do.

Stay on point. Your thought process is very chaotic and scattered.

I am suggesting that you stop neglecting your personal responsibility by promoting a toxic society. We have enough zombies. We don't need any more drugged zombies.

I haven't promoted a damn thing. You're projecting again.

I'm personally responsible. I don't smoke pot. Now, saddle up with the nanny staters, because this thread makes you their poster child.
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RE: Pot Use Among Colorado Teens Appears to Drop After Legalization
(08-08-2014 06:05 PM)Smaug Wrote:  
(08-08-2014 04:51 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  
(08-08-2014 04:48 PM)Smaug Wrote:  
(08-08-2014 04:44 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  
(08-08-2014 04:34 PM)Smaug Wrote:  I never said it was. But as unpleasant a prospect it is for you, adults in this country get to decide what's best for them, and you don't.

Sorry pal, that's not how a nation of laws work. This is not an anarchy.

It's my responsibility to promote and fight for a healthy society. It is your responsibility as well. Stop neglecting your personal responsibility, Smaug.

Once again, you clearly cannot comprehend how the govt actually controls you more by legalizing illicit drugs. You are what is refereed to as a useful idiot. Or a smart fool.

"Useful idiot"? Hell, at least I'm useful. You're just an idiot.

I'll type this slowly.

Here in America, you don't get to tell other people what to do. I know how much that must piss you off, but as soon as you settle in with that fact, the happier you'll be.

You're right about one thing: We are a nation of laws, and the law in Colorado is that pot is legal.

Don't like it? Don't smoke pot in Colorado.

I'll type this even slower. I am not telling anyone what to do.

Stay on point. Your thought process is very chaotic and scattered.

I am suggesting that you stop neglecting your personal responsibility by promoting a toxic society. We have enough zombies. We don't need any more drugged zombies.

I haven't promoted a damn thing. You're projecting again.

I'm personally responsible. I don't smoke pot. Now, saddle up with the nanny staters, because this thread makes you their poster child.

Smaug, you took us down this path. If you want to address how big governments use intoxicant to gain more control over a society, I'm all ears. I'm suggesting you don't understand the concept and suggested you study the fall of Rome. You can bet your sweet liberal ass that people will be reading about the fall of America a thousand years from now and pacification will be part of the reading material.

It will talk about how humans are too stupid to learn from the past. This is so much bigger than your silly Ron Paul bullschit.
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RE: Pot Use Among Colorado Teens Appears to Drop After Legalization
(08-08-2014 06:21 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  
(08-08-2014 06:05 PM)Smaug Wrote:  
(08-08-2014 04:51 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  
(08-08-2014 04:48 PM)Smaug Wrote:  
(08-08-2014 04:44 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  Sorry pal, that's not how a nation of laws work. This is not an anarchy.

It's my responsibility to promote and fight for a healthy society. It is your responsibility as well. Stop neglecting your personal responsibility, Smaug.

Once again, you clearly cannot comprehend how the govt actually controls you more by legalizing illicit drugs. You are what is refereed to as a useful idiot. Or a smart fool.

"Useful idiot"? Hell, at least I'm useful. You're just an idiot.

I'll type this slowly.

Here in America, you don't get to tell other people what to do. I know how much that must piss you off, but as soon as you settle in with that fact, the happier you'll be.

You're right about one thing: We are a nation of laws, and the law in Colorado is that pot is legal.

Don't like it? Don't smoke pot in Colorado.

I'll type this even slower. I am not telling anyone what to do.

Stay on point. Your thought process is very chaotic and scattered.

I am suggesting that you stop neglecting your personal responsibility by promoting a toxic society. We have enough zombies. We don't need any more drugged zombies.

I haven't promoted a damn thing. You're projecting again.

I'm personally responsible. I don't smoke pot. Now, saddle up with the nanny staters, because this thread makes you their poster child.

Smaug, you took us down this path. If you want to address how big governments use intoxicant to gain more control over a society, I'm all ears. I'm suggesting you don't understand the concept and suggested you study the fall of Rome. You can bet your sweet liberal ass that people will be reading about the fall of America a thousand years from now and pacification will be part of the reading material.

It will talk about how humans are too stupid to learn from the past. This is so much bigger than your silly Ron Paul bullschit.

Whatever, chickenlittledixie.

Let me know when to call the government to tuck you in.
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RE: Pot Use Among Colorado Teens Appears to Drop After Legalization
OKlaDixie, you've become just what you claim to hate. Perhaps time to take a break from posting for a few days. Just a suggestion. You seem very angry and confrontational. Insults won't win anybody over to your warped views and they do make you look and sound just like those who you despise.
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RE: Pot Use Among Colorado Teens Appears to Drop After Legalization
(08-08-2014 07:35 PM)MileHighBronco Wrote:  OKlaDixie, you've become just what you claim to hate. Perhaps time to take a break from posting for a few days. Just a suggestion. You seem very angry and confrontational. Insults won't win anybody over to your warped views and they do make you look and sound just like those who you despise.

Makes no sense. It doesn't challenge or disprove anything I've said.

I don't care if you like me or not.

I am more concerned with debating the facts.
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RE: Pot Use Among Colorado Teens Appears to Drop After Legalization
(08-08-2014 07:34 PM)Smaug Wrote:  
(08-08-2014 06:21 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  
(08-08-2014 06:05 PM)Smaug Wrote:  
(08-08-2014 04:51 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  
(08-08-2014 04:48 PM)Smaug Wrote:  "Useful idiot"? Hell, at least I'm useful. You're just an idiot.

I'll type this slowly.

Here in America, you don't get to tell other people what to do. I know how much that must piss you off, but as soon as you settle in with that fact, the happier you'll be.

You're right about one thing: We are a nation of laws, and the law in Colorado is that pot is legal.

Don't like it? Don't smoke pot in Colorado.

I'll type this even slower. I am not telling anyone what to do.

Stay on point. Your thought process is very chaotic and scattered.

I am suggesting that you stop neglecting your personal responsibility by promoting a toxic society. We have enough zombies. We don't need any more drugged zombies.

I haven't promoted a damn thing. You're projecting again.

I'm personally responsible. I don't smoke pot. Now, saddle up with the nanny staters, because this thread makes you their poster child.

Smaug, you took us down this path. If you want to address how big governments use intoxicant to gain more control over a society, I'm all ears. I'm suggesting you don't understand the concept and suggested you study the fall of Rome. You can bet your sweet liberal ass that people will be reading about the fall of America a thousand years from now and pacification will be part of the reading material.

It will talk about how humans are too stupid to learn from the past. This is so much bigger than your silly Ron Paul bullschit.

Whatever, chickenlittledixie.

Let me know when to call the government to tuck you in.

Read up. You'll be able to move past these canned responses you've been shackled to.
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...said the canned response king.

Are there any mirrors in your house?
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(08-08-2014 08:00 PM)Smaug Wrote:  ...said the canned response king.

Are there any mirrors in your house?

Snappy comeback.

If you need the last word, I'll give it to you.

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RE: Pot Use Among Colorado Teens Appears to Drop After Legalization
(08-08-2014 07:58 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  
(08-08-2014 07:35 PM)MileHighBronco Wrote:  OKlaDixie, you've become just what you claim to hate. Perhaps time to take a break from posting for a few days. Just a suggestion. You seem very angry and confrontational. Insults won't win anybody over to your warped views and they do make you look and sound just like those who you despise.

Makes no sense. It doesn't challenge or disprove anything I've said.

I don't care if you like me or not.

I am more concerned with debating the facts.

You're not debating, you're just ranting and calling those who don't jump to your conclusions stupid or telling them they just don't understand.

This isn't about whether or not I "like" you. This isn't facebook. You just seem quite unhinged lately.

You have a real self awareness deficit.
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(08-08-2014 01:20 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  what better way for a government to expand and seize more control over a society than to pacify the people?

Marxism.

Marxism actually hinges on revolution and anger against people who make all of the money but do none of the obvious work. That doesn't mix well with pacification.

Pacification does lead to oligarchy though.
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RE: Pot Use Among Colorado Teens Appears to Drop After Legalization
I'd be interested in usage statistics in a few years. I'm largely anti-drug and I think a shift in strategy could help us better take down more dangerous stuff.
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(08-08-2014 08:46 PM)nomad2u2001 Wrote:  
(08-08-2014 01:20 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  what better way for a government to expand and seize more control over a society than to pacify the people?

Marxism.

Marxism actually hinges on revolution and anger against people who make all of the money but do none of the obvious work. That doesn't mix well with pacification.

Pacification does lead to oligarchy though.

LOL yes it does. Think about what you just typed. Marxism hinges on greater and greater reduction of what you own...what you control. Pacification just calms the angst.
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(08-08-2014 08:44 PM)MileHighBronco Wrote:  
(08-08-2014 07:58 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  
(08-08-2014 07:35 PM)MileHighBronco Wrote:  OKlaDixie, you've become just what you claim to hate. Perhaps time to take a break from posting for a few days. Just a suggestion. You seem very angry and confrontational. Insults won't win anybody over to your warped views and they do make you look and sound just like those who you despise.

Makes no sense. It doesn't challenge or disprove anything I've said.

I don't care if you like me or not.

I am more concerned with debating the facts.

You're not debating, you're just ranting and calling those who don't jump to your conclusions stupid or telling them they just don't understand.

This isn't about whether or not I "like" you. This isn't facebook. You just seem quite unhinged lately.

You have a real self awareness deficit.

Yes I am. With Smaug, I have learned you must take a different angle.
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(08-08-2014 08:57 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  
(08-08-2014 08:46 PM)nomad2u2001 Wrote:  
(08-08-2014 01:20 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  what better way for a government to expand and seize more control over a society than to pacify the people?

Marxism.

Marxism actually hinges on revolution and anger against people who make all of the money but do none of the obvious work. That doesn't mix well with pacification.

Pacification does lead to oligarchy though.

LOL yes it does. Think about what you just typed. Marxism hinges on greater and greater reduction of what you own...what you control. Pacification just calms the angst.

Nope. No country that has ever fallen into Communism or anything like that has done it peacefully. They all also had drug laws, sometimes amongst the strictest in the world.

Where you match up quite well with Marx himself is a strong opposition to drug use. Drug use, along with other consumption taken without concern for your body or mind, was actually an evil of capitalism to him.
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(08-08-2014 08:44 PM)MileHighBronco Wrote:  You have a real self awareness deficit.

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(08-08-2014 12:49 PM)john01992 Wrote:  http://www.usnews.com/news/articles/2014...galization

State data shows Colorado high school kids getting high at lower rate than national average in 2013.

There are a couple of problems with using this to support legalization of Marijuana.

1) 2013 = 12 months
2014 = 8 months in.

2) One year? They're using one year for their study? That's not just bad science, but that's bad statistics.

I will say likely, that the reason is that how can you "rebel" against something that isn't a crime anymore? This was one of the concerns that the anti-legalization crowd said would happen. You legalize marijuana and teens are going to move to find something else illegal, rebellious, and POSSIBLY more dangerous.

Obviously we cant' say that for sure.. But to use the line you used as your primary focus isn't a strong argument.
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(08-08-2014 10:56 PM)DaSaintFan Wrote:  
(08-08-2014 12:49 PM)john01992 Wrote:  http://www.usnews.com/news/articles/2014...galization

State data shows Colorado high school kids getting high at lower rate than national average in 2013.

There are a couple of problems with using this to support legalization of Marijuana.

1) 2013 = 12 months
2014 = 8 months in.

2) One year? They're using one year for their study? That's not just bad science, but that's bad statistics.

I will say likely, that the reason is that how can you "rebel" against something that isn't a crime anymore? This was one of the concerns that the anti-legalization crowd said would happen. You legalize marijuana and teens are going to move to find something else illegal, rebellious, and POSSIBLY more dangerous.

Obviously we cant' say that for sure.. But to use the line you used as your primary focus isn't a strong argument.

It's an every other year survey (odd years). Also, the numbers are not statistically significant, meaning the year over year numbers cannot be proven to actually be higher or lower with regard to other years. Too much error.
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(08-08-2014 10:56 PM)DaSaintFan Wrote:  
(08-08-2014 12:49 PM)john01992 Wrote:  http://www.usnews.com/news/articles/2014...galization

State data shows Colorado high school kids getting high at lower rate than national average in 2013.

There are a couple of problems with using this to support legalization of Marijuana.

1) 2013 = 12 months
2014 = 8 months in.

2) One year? They're using one year for their study? That's not just bad science, but that's bad statistics.

I will say likely, that the reason is that how can you "rebel" against something that isn't a crime anymore? This was one of the concerns that the anti-legalization crowd said would happen. You legalize marijuana and teens are going to move to find something else illegal, rebellious, and POSSIBLY more dangerous.

Obviously we cant' say that for sure.. But to use the line you used as your primary focus isn't a strong argument.

I wish people actually read the articles and not come up with reasons they think it would be wrong based on assumptions that they know nothing about....because they didn't read the damn article

It is not a "total kids smoking per year" poll, it's what % have smoked in the last month. so whether it's March or November the time of year does not matter
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