http://espn.go.com/college-sports/story/...onferences

The power five leagues (the ACC, Big 12, Big Ten, SEC and Pac-12) could begin submitting their own legislation by Oct. 1 and have it enacted at the January 2015 NCAA convention in Washington, D.C. Key early issues are expected to include full cost-of-attendance stipends worth up to $5,000 per player; four-year scholarship guarantees; loosened rules involving contact between players and agents as well as outside career pursuits for players; and travel allowances for players' families to attend postseason games.

If 75 schools from outside the power five conferences vote to override the autonomy legislation in the next 60 days, the measures would be sent back to the board of directors for further consideration. But NCAA officials don't expect that to happen. Power league commissioners have made veiled threats about breaking off to form their own division if autonomy fails.

that is my favorite part...really

Why don't they just break away and get it over with instead of making us suffer a slow death?

(08-07-2014 01:20 PM)bearcatfan Wrote:  Why don't they just break away and get it over with instead of making us suffer a slow death?

Be careful what you wish for....

Rule Change #1 - Create Student Athlete Stipend Up To $5,000

AAC - Ok, no problem.....

Rule Change #2 - Raise Scholarship Limits

AAC - Wait what? Uh Oh......

(08-07-2014 01:20 PM)bearcatfan Wrote:  Why don't they just break away and get it over with instead of making us suffer a slow death?

They essentially did break away if you look at where the best players will go from the date forward. Big TV contracts AND now the big player shoe contracts that go with it.

(08-07-2014 01:25 PM)UConnHusky Wrote:  

(08-07-2014 01:20 PM)bearcatfan Wrote:  Why don't they just break away and get it over with instead of making us suffer a slow death?

Be careful what you wish for....

I'm not wishing for it - I just think it is inevitable.

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FWIW, there’s no built-in mechanism for a conference to become a power conference (AAC requested this). But Board of Directors can modify.

(08-07-2014 01:31 PM)Bearcat2012 Wrote:  Dan WolkenVerified account ‏@DanWolken
FWIW, there’s no built-in mechanism for a conference to become a power conference (AAC requested this). But Board of Directors can modify.

This is what I like to hear. Sounds like we still haven't stopped fighting.

It is unfortunate that Aresco didn't make bigger deal about the whole "power" conference thing back when the other power conferences were planning on removing the Big East/AAC as the 6th power conference. By the time he made a fuss this year, it was too little too late as we were already on the outside looking in. He should have gone postal while we were still IN the rich guy's club.

I hate to say it, but this autonomy approval makes us less of a "tweener" football conference that is between the P5 and G5 and instead lowers us to being more on par with the rest of the G5.

(08-07-2014 01:31 PM)Bearcat2012 Wrote:  Dan WolkenVerified account ‏@DanWolken
FWIW, there’s no built-in mechanism for a conference to become a power conference (AAC requested this). But Board of Directors can modify.

There is no built-in mechanism, because the only quanitative measure for what makes a team or conference "power" is TV revenue and bowl lineup.

(08-07-2014 01:31 PM)Bearcat2012 Wrote:  Dan WolkenVerified account ‏@DanWolken
FWIW, there’s no built-in mechanism for a conference to become a power conference (AAC requested this). But Board of Directors can modify.

That last part to me is what's most compelling.

(08-07-2014 01:36 PM)UConnHusky Wrote:  It is unfortunate that Aresco didn't make bigger deal about the whole "power" conference thing back when the other power conferences were planning on removing the Big East/AAC as the 6th power conference. By the time he made a fuss this year, it was too little too late as we were already on the outside looking in. He should have gone postal while we were still IN the rich guy's club.

I hate to say it, but this autonomy approval makes us less of a "tweener" football conference that is between the P5 and G5 and instead lowers us to being more on par with the rest of the G5.

I know right! When they were taking the power label away, we should have sued the f**k out of them for inclusion. I'm sure our conference would look a little bit different too.

Yesterday, I listened to an interesting forum about "the biggest issues in college sports today," held yesterday by the Big 12 in New York. It is really long, about two hours, but it was much better than expected. Autonomy, Ed O'Bannon, the general purpose of college sports, and more are discussed by a decent cross-section of interested parties. Panelists included Bob Bowlsby, the WVU AD, the Texas AD, the Kansas State AD, Armen Keteyian (sp.?) of CBS Sports, a former rower for Columbia U. who now writes for the New York Times, a former Texas football player, Kevin Blackishaw (Around the Horn and journalism instructor at Maryland), presdient of Baylor Ken Starr, and the president of Sports Management Resources, who had some of the strongest questions directed at the AD's and president of Baylor.

I thought it was very impressive when Dr. Lopiano (Sports Mgmt. Resources) called out the Texas AD and Bowlsby. She showed that while the NCAA Tournament revenue is allocated with a high percentage to academic support, and additional amounts allocated specifically for scholarships and for running championship events for the rest of NCAA sports, College Football Playoff money is allocated directly to the conferences and not necessarily for things that directly benefit athletes. CFP money doesnt have to go to scholarships or academic support. It is up to the schools. Furthermore, she said, CFP is distributed far more venly to the ten FBS conferences than they are to the 32 D1 conferences. She pointed out that if the money from the CFP was split evenly among all 32 conferences, rather than heavily weighted towards five conferences, then all Division 1 full scholarship athletes in all leagues could receive full cost of attendance. Even better, those things could be made possible with an 8 or 16 team playoff. So, in essence, the money is there for all of D1 to provide full cost of attendance, but the Autonomy Five have the leverage to keep it for themselves. Then, she said, they turn around and complain the lesser resource leagues are trying to prevent them from helping their athletes. The Texas AD said that those leagues werent bringing in the revenue, but Loriano reminded him that they are all non-profits, and, again, the greatest number of student athletes would be benefit from even distribution of CFP money. (I also found it curious why no one critiqued Texas for taking in as much money as it does but not sponsoring more sports than the 20 or so that it does, allowing more students to get a free college education.

The video can be streamed from big12sports.com for those who are interested.

(08-07-2014 01:26 PM)Tigers2B1 Wrote:  

(08-07-2014 01:20 PM)bearcatfan Wrote:  Why don't they just break away and get it over with instead of making us suffer a slow death?

They essentially did break away if you look at where the best players will go from the date forward. Big TV contracts AND now the big player shoe contracts that go with it.

That's where they always went. I don't get this Chicken Little crap. Meet the new boss, same as the old boss. At the end of the day nothing really changes in terms of where the talent goes.

We won the bcs game and mens and women's basketball title after it was all decided. Crazy doing all that and not considered a power conference. Doesn't even make sense.

(08-07-2014 01:43 PM)firmbizzle Wrote:  

(08-07-2014 01:36 PM)UConnHusky Wrote:  It is unfortunate that Aresco didn't make bigger deal about the whole "power" conference thing back when the other power conferences were planning on removing the Big East/AAC as the 6th power conference. By the time he made a fuss this year, it was too little too late as we were already on the outside looking in. He should have gone postal while we were still IN the rich guy's club.

I hate to say it, but this autonomy approval makes us less of a "tweener" football conference that is between the P5 and G5 and instead lowers us to being more on par with the rest of the G5.

I know right! When they were taking the power label away, we should have sued the f**k out of them for inclusion. I'm sure our conference would look a little bit different too.

Makes no f--ing difference. You're either willing to match what the P5 are doing or not.

(08-07-2014 01:54 PM)blunderbuss Wrote:  

(08-07-2014 01:43 PM)firmbizzle Wrote:  

(08-07-2014 01:36 PM)UConnHusky Wrote:  It is unfortunate that Aresco didn't make bigger deal about the whole "power" conference thing back when the other power conferences were planning on removing the Big East/AAC as the 6th power conference. By the time he made a fuss this year, it was too little too late as we were already on the outside looking in. He should have gone postal while we were still IN the rich guy's club.

I hate to say it, but this autonomy approval makes us less of a "tweener" football conference that is between the P5 and G5 and instead lowers us to being more on par with the rest of the G5.

I know right! When they were taking the power label away, we should have sued the f**k out of them for inclusion. I'm sure our conference would look a little bit different too.

Makes no f--ing difference. You're either willing to match what the P5 are doing or not.

There in lies the issue. Those that are willing to match don't seem to have the ability to do so according to the powers that be. No specific criteria of what constitutes a "power" conference much less a "power" team exists other than the "name" of the conference.