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Wake Forest Prez Pushes Autonomy Through
Again a lesson for those who do not know why Wake Forest rules. 04-cheers
08-07-2014 12:19 PM
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Story?
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(08-07-2014 12:24 PM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  Story?

http://espn.go.com/college-sports/story/...onferences

Sorry, I got the news before the story.
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(08-07-2014 12:19 PM)lumberpack4 Wrote:  Again a lesson for those who do not know why Wake Forest rules. 04-cheers

Just curious - how does this reflect on Wake Forest?
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(08-07-2014 12:34 PM)ken d Wrote:  
(08-07-2014 12:19 PM)lumberpack4 Wrote:  Again a lesson for those who do not know why Wake Forest rules. 04-cheers

Just curious - how does this reflect on Wake Forest?

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(08-07-2014 12:36 PM)lumberpack4 Wrote:  
(08-07-2014 12:34 PM)ken d Wrote:  
(08-07-2014 12:19 PM)lumberpack4 Wrote:  Again a lesson for those who do not know why Wake Forest rules. 04-cheers

Just curious - how does this reflect on Wake Forest?

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That's what I meant by asking for the story... I didn't read any mention of Hatch (and I'm not in a position to watch/listen to a video)
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(08-07-2014 12:34 PM)ken d Wrote:  
(08-07-2014 12:19 PM)lumberpack4 Wrote:  Again a lesson for those who do not know why Wake Forest rules. 04-cheers

Just curious - how does this reflect on Wake Forest?

Other than being the chairman of the committee it doesn't. With the way the winds were blowing on this issue you could have had anybody at the chair and it would have passed.
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So if the ACC gets screwed in all this we have someone to blame?04-cheers
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What do the Power 5 do with their new power? The assumption is that they give athletes stipends that other conferences can't afford and go to 4 year scholarships. But what will the Power 5 do beyond that? Move rapidly to an 8 or ever 16 team football championship? Revamp the basketball tournament to remove automatic qualifiers, thereby putting more Power 5 teams in the tournament? Revamp the distribution of basketball tournament revenues to give more to schools that advance further in the tournament? Right now you get the same for a round of 64 game as for the national championship game even though the national championship game is probably worth 100 times as much in TV money. Can the Power 5 even force NCAA basketball tournament changes? Do they have to threaten to withdraw to their own tournament? Any change affecting NCAA Basketball Tournament revenues is a very big deal to the ACC.
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(08-07-2014 03:22 PM)Hallcity Wrote:  What do the Power 5 do with their new power? The assumption is that they give athletes stipends that other conferences can't afford and go to 4 year scholarships. But what will the Power 5 do beyond that? Move rapidly to an 8 or ever 16 team football championship? Revamp the basketball tournament to remove automatic qualifiers, thereby putting more Power 5 teams in the tournament? Revamp the distribution of basketball tournament revenues to give more to schools that advance further in the tournament? Right now you get the same for a round of 64 game as for the national championship game even though the national championship game is probably worth 100 times as much in TV money. Can the Power 5 even force NCAA basketball tournament changes? Do they have to threaten to withdraw to their own tournament? Any change affecting NCAA Basketball Tournament revenues is a very big deal to the ACC.

http://www.ncaa.org/about/resources/medi...-structure
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(08-07-2014 03:22 PM)Hallcity Wrote:  What do the Power 5 do with their new power? The assumption is that they give athletes stipends that other conferences can't afford and go to 4 year scholarships. But what will the Power 5 do beyond that? Move rapidly to an 8 or ever 16 team football championship? Revamp the basketball tournament to remove automatic qualifiers, thereby putting more Power 5 teams in the tournament? Revamp the distribution of basketball tournament revenues to give more to schools that advance further in the tournament? Right now you get the same for a round of 64 game as for the national championship game even though the national championship game is probably worth 100 times as much in TV money. Can the Power 5 even force NCAA basketball tournament changes? Do they have to threaten to withdraw to their own tournament? Any change affecting NCAA Basketball Tournament revenues is a very big deal to the ACC.

There will be no change to the NCAA tournament that negatively affects the ACC's wallet, because such a change would also negatively affect the B10's.
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(08-07-2014 03:00 PM)Dasville Wrote:  So if the ACC gets screwed in all this we have someone to blame?04-cheers

Wake Forest is your unseen, silent master. 03-shhhh

As they go, so goes the world. 04-cheers
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(08-07-2014 03:30 PM)lumberpack4 Wrote:  
(08-07-2014 03:00 PM)Dasville Wrote:  So if the ACC gets screwed in all this we have someone to blame?04-cheers

Wake Forest is your unseen, silent master. 03-shhhh

As they go, so goes the world. 04-cheers

Just curious - how long have you had this man crush on Nathan Hatch? 07-coffee3
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(08-07-2014 03:28 PM)lumberpack4 Wrote:  
(08-07-2014 03:22 PM)Hallcity Wrote:  What do the Power 5 do with their new power? The assumption is that they give athletes stipends that other conferences can't afford and go to 4 year scholarships. But what will the Power 5 do beyond that? Move rapidly to an 8 or ever 16 team football championship? Revamp the basketball tournament to remove automatic qualifiers, thereby putting more Power 5 teams in the tournament? Revamp the distribution of basketball tournament revenues to give more to schools that advance further in the tournament? Right now you get the same for a round of 64 game as for the national championship game even though the national championship game is probably worth 100 times as much in TV money. Can the Power 5 even force NCAA basketball tournament changes? Do they have to threaten to withdraw to their own tournament? Any change affecting NCAA Basketball Tournament revenues is a very big deal to the ACC.

There will be no change to the NCAA tournament that negatively affects the ACC's wallet, because such a change would also negatively affect the B10's.

Of course there won't be a change in the NCAA basketball tournament that would negatively affect the ACC because that would also negatively affect the B1G and Big 12. What I'm getting at are changes that would increase the ACC's income at the expense of non-power conferences. Why share so much of the wealth with the MEAC and Mountain West, for instance? They're gone from the tournament before the games that generate the real revenue.
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Autonomy doesn't effect postseason play
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Hall - that might happen with fewer auto bids, or an expansion of the tournament.

Ken - it's not the individual per se, it's the institution - WF would be akin the Knights Templar. :)
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(08-07-2014 05:08 PM)lumberpack4 Wrote:  Hall - that might happen with fewer auto bids, or an expansion of the tournament.

Ken - it's not the individual per se, it's the institution - WF would be akin the Knights Templar. :)

As I recall, things didn't turn out so well for the Knights Templar.
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" Any change affecting NCAA Basketball Tournament revenues is a very big deal to the ACC. "


I am assuming by change in BBall you mean more profit to the schools who produce.....ie similar to what we have in football now.


This would be THE change for the ACC. I am not sure the ACC can compete long term in football/revenue, but if bball is capitalized like football (and less socialized like it is now), it evens things out for the ACC.
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(08-07-2014 05:11 PM)ken d Wrote:  
(08-07-2014 05:08 PM)lumberpack4 Wrote:  Hall - that might happen with fewer auto bids, or an expansion of the tournament.

Ken - it's not the individual per se, it's the institution - WF would be akin the Knights Templar. :)

As I recall, things didn't turn out so well for the Knights Templar.

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No autonomy for postseason tournaments....so can we get rid of our football divisions and still have the conference championship game or not?
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