that fit is telling us are better than doing nothing

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Quote:In an effort to reduce pollution, the United States federal government and all 50 states have passed laws encouraging the use of ethanol-blended gasoline.

The Environmental Protection Agency created regulations for implementation of the Energy Independence and Security Act of 2007. These regulations increase ethanol gasoline production to 36 billion gallons by 2022.

Ethanol molecules are hygroscopic, this means ethanol attracts and absorbs water, including water from the air. The water levels in ethanol-blended gasoline rise based on humidity, temperature and storage containers. However, ethanol is alcohol, which results in corrosion in the fuel system, thus causing metal parts to rust and plastic parts to crack and malform.

Cars built before 2001 are especially vulnerable to ethanol corrosion. All two-stroke gasoline engines are adversely affected, as are yard tools, marine engines and motorcycles.

Although ethanol on its own is not corrosive, its hygroscopic nature is key to the problem of fuel system corrosion. As ethanol attracts and holds water, it is the perfect medium for growing a bacterium known as Acetobacter in the gas tank. One byproduct from Acetobacter is acetic acid, which causes corrosion within the fuel system.

Most ethanol gas is E10, meaning it has no more than 10 percent ethanol. Recently, a few states started selling E85, which is 85 percent ethanol. The damage from E85 is so well-known that the pumps are labeled for flex fuel cars only.

Fuel systems in cars are the least likely to have problems with corrosion from acetic acid as the gasoline is constantly being used and replaced, leaving little time for Acetobacter to grow. However, when gasoline sits for a bit, the bacteria colonies grow and begin to destroy elements of your fuel system.

Not a new topic for this board, I have asked previously if Brazil's heavy investment in EtOH has been penny-wise but pound-foolish. Yeah, the fuel is cheaper, but in the end, the cost of rusted out autos is far more expensive (and harder on the environment) than any savings.

"Vote conservative because we will do nothing" lol

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(08-07-2014 11:35 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  "Vote conservative because we will do nothing" lol

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Yes...and evidence has shown over and over that just "doing something" is often better?

http://whotv.com/2014/03/19/ethanol-stan...t-mandate/

(08-07-2014 11:35 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  "Vote conservative because we will do nothing" lol

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Sometimes the best action is no action at all

I guess you ain't getting any action then. Lol

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E-85 gas is not that great of a fuel from what I've understood either.

It's not cost efficient and the MPGs go waaaay down than with non-ethanol gas or E-10.

(08-07-2014 12:11 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  I guess you ain't getting any action then. Lol

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I get plenty, thank you.

But I find it ironic that the person who was crying so much yesterday about someone else commenting on their personal life would make a comment like that.

Wait.... no I'm not. It's the typical modus operandi of both a liberal and a troll so it's no wonder you follow it so well.

(08-07-2014 11:48 AM)Kaplony Wrote:  

(08-07-2014 11:35 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  "Vote conservative because we will do nothing" lol

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Sometimes the best action is no action at all

This should be put on a recording and broadcast in a loop...over and over in the both the House and Senate.

Just how many fcking laws are necessary?

(08-07-2014 10:52 AM)DrTorch Wrote:  Not a new topic for this board, I have asked previously if Brazil's heavy investment in EtOH has been penny-wise but pound-foolish. Yeah, the fuel is cheaper, but in the end, the cost of rusted out autos is far more expensive (and harder on the environment) than any savings.

This is also why blended gasoline, or just ethanol cannot be shipped via pipeline. Corrosion is too much of an issue.

I wonder what the carbon footprint is of all those ethanol tank trucks?

(08-07-2014 12:14 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  

(08-07-2014 12:11 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  I guess you ain't getting any action then. Lol

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I get plenty, thank you.

But I find it ironic that the person who was crying so much yesterday about someone else commenting on their personal life would make a comment like that.

Wait.... no I'm not. It's the typical modus operandi of both a liberal and a troll so it's no wonder you follow it so well.

I wasn't talking about your sex life.

(08-07-2014 12:29 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(08-07-2014 12:14 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  

(08-07-2014 12:11 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  I guess you ain't getting any action then. Lol

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I get plenty, thank you.

But I find it ironic that the person who was crying so much yesterday about someone else commenting on their personal life would make a comment like that.

Wait.... no I'm not. It's the typical modus operandi of both a liberal and a troll so it's no wonder you follow it so well.

I wasn't talking about your sex life.

Sounds like you were.. I think you owe him a huge apology.

(08-07-2014 12:14 PM)gdunn Wrote:  E-85 gas is not that great of a fuel from what I've understood either.

It's not cost efficient and the MPGs go waaaay down than with non-ethanol gas or E-10.

Thankfully there's no E85's in my neighborhood. I got stuck doing an E85 once and my car did NOT like it. It basically dropped a tank of gas from 400 miles (something like 20.9mpg) to somewhere around 320 miles on one tank (i think the reading at one point said i was Down to 17 mpg) (and that was just ONE time). Took more than a few regular fill-ups of E10 gas to get the mileage back up above 20.

Even the gas cap on my mower has a "NO E85" inscription on it.

(08-07-2014 12:40 PM)gdunn Wrote:  

(08-07-2014 12:29 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(08-07-2014 12:14 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  

(08-07-2014 12:11 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  I guess you ain't getting any action then. Lol

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I get plenty, thank you.

But I find it ironic that the person who was crying so much yesterday about someone else commenting on their personal life would make a comment like that.

Wait.... no I'm not. It's the typical modus operandi of both a liberal and a troll so it's no wonder you follow it so well.

I wasn't talking about your sex life.

Sounds like you were.. I think you owe him a huge apology.

I"m sorry Kaplony if you thought I was talking about your sex life. I was actually talking about the mid term elections and how the conservatives are bound to win both houses.

Since you said taking no action is a good thing, then you should expect to get no action ( from congress) for the next two years.

I didn't mean sex. That would be horrible.