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RE: ESPN: Many Power Five Favor Schedule That Only Includes Power Five
Relax, first of this was coach vote. Coaches have 0 to do with decisions. 2nd the big 20 schools want 7 home games which keeps $$$ rolling. All P5 schedule kills that. and lets be honest most of the top schools always schedule a perceived easy tune up win for week 1.
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RE: ESPN: Many Power Five Favor Schedule That Only Includes Power Five
How many P5 teams are playing at G5 schools ?

That may become the future number of total games .
The P5 playing at a G5 games will be rare.
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(08-07-2014 12:22 PM)wildthing202 Wrote:  
(08-07-2014 11:12 AM)stxrunner Wrote:  The real issue I have about this proposal is the 'you don't have to be a .500 team to be in a bowl' nonsense. Oh yea great, let's tune in to watch 4-8 Purdue play 5-7 Mississippi State. That would completely eliminate any remaining prestige with going to a bowl. The players would hardly even be interested in that at this point, let alone the fans.

Like it makes a difference if they're 6-6 rather than 4-8. It's a worthless bowl game that schools lose money on anyway. You can eliminate 27 bowl games and have a much better product at the end of the year. Top 24 teams only with conference preferences dropped. Top 4 get playoffs while the rest to play each other(5 vs 6, 7 vs 8, etc.). That would be much better than the drek we get now with the "everybody gets a trophy" bowl games.

It's also funny to see people talk about teams losing out on so much money by not having that 7th home game when TV revenue increases alone make up the difference and then some. I'm sure Alabama is really going to go bankrupt with their $40+ million TV and bowl revenue if they don't get their cupcake 7th game. It's more of an excuse not to travel north or just outside the state more than anything.

Alabama makes about $5 million from each home football game. That amount is not "made up" at all, much less "and then some" by their TV contract. If they don't play that game, they lose $5 million, which is equal to 1/4 of the amount they received from the SEC last year. That's a big chunk of money and well-worth protecting.
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RE: ESPN: Many Power Five Favor Schedule That Only Includes Power Five
This year the SEC will play 47 of 56 non conference games at home. If they moved to a P5 only schedule that number would change to 28 of 56. There is no way the SEC, or any other P5 conference, is going to sacrifice the revenue from 19 home games all in the name of SOS.
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(08-08-2014 08:21 AM)goodknightfl Wrote:  Relax, first of this was coach vote. Coaches have 0 to do with decisions. 2nd the big 20 schools want 7 home games which keeps $$$ rolling. All P5 schedule kills that. and lets be honest most of the top schools always schedule a perceived easy tune up win for week 1.

Seriously disagree with this statement.

There are dead coaches in Alabama that have more power than the AD.
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RE: ESPN: Many Power Five Favor Schedule That Only Includes Power Five
The mid-tier power 5 teams might (emphasis on might) make up in TV revenue what they lose in a home gate. The top teams though couldn't come close to that. 80,000-100,000 tickets sold at high prices (plus everything else) just won't be made up for with the TV revenue.

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(08-08-2014 08:21 AM)goodknightfl Wrote:  Relax, first of this was coach vote. Coaches have 0 to do with decisions. 2nd the big 20 schools want 7 home games which keeps $$$ rolling. All P5 schedule kills that. and lets be honest most of the top schools always schedule a perceived easy tune up win for week 1.

Seriously disagree with this statement.

There are dead coaches in Alabama that have more power than the AD.

More popularity and ability to sell things maybe, but not more power. Let's remember Saban has specifically said he'd love to play all power 5 teams and you have yet to see an Alabama schedule that is remotely close to that.

The ADs are in charge of the budgets and thus act very differently.
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(08-09-2014 08:52 AM)TrojanCampaign Wrote:  
(08-08-2014 08:21 AM)goodknightfl Wrote:  Relax, first of this was coach vote. Coaches have 0 to do with decisions. 2nd the big 20 schools want 7 home games which keeps $$$ rolling. All P5 schedule kills that. and lets be honest most of the top schools always schedule a perceived easy tune up win for week 1.

Seriously disagree with this statement.

There are dead coaches in Alabama that have more power than the AD.

Man that is a classic post......and true
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(08-09-2014 06:25 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  
(08-07-2014 12:22 PM)wildthing202 Wrote:  
(08-07-2014 11:12 AM)stxrunner Wrote:  The real issue I have about this proposal is the 'you don't have to be a .500 team to be in a bowl' nonsense. Oh yea great, let's tune in to watch 4-8 Purdue play 5-7 Mississippi State. That would completely eliminate any remaining prestige with going to a bowl. The players would hardly even be interested in that at this point, let alone the fans.

Like it makes a difference if they're 6-6 rather than 4-8. It's a worthless bowl game that schools lose money on anyway. You can eliminate 27 bowl games and have a much better product at the end of the year. Top 24 teams only with conference preferences dropped. Top 4 get playoffs while the rest to play each other(5 vs 6, 7 vs 8, etc.). That would be much better than the drek we get now with the "everybody gets a trophy" bowl games.

It's also funny to see people talk about teams losing out on so much money by not having that 7th home game when TV revenue increases alone make up the difference and then some. I'm sure Alabama is really going to go bankrupt with their $40+ million TV and bowl revenue if they don't get their cupcake 7th game. It's more of an excuse not to travel north or just outside the state more than anything.

Alabama makes about $5 million from each home football game. That amount is not "made up" at all, much less "and then some" by their TV contract. If they don't play that game, they lose $5 million, which is equal to 1/4 of the amount they received from the SEC last year. That's a big chunk of money and well-worth protecting.

I'm going to take a wild guess and say the money could be easily made up from revenue from a certain TV network that is going to be launched next week.

Again I doubt the school is going to go broke because they don't have their cupcake game.
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RE: ESPN: Many Power Five Favor Schedule That Only Includes Power Five
(08-09-2014 10:22 AM)wildthing202 Wrote:  
(08-09-2014 06:25 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  
(08-07-2014 12:22 PM)wildthing202 Wrote:  
(08-07-2014 11:12 AM)stxrunner Wrote:  The real issue I have about this proposal is the 'you don't have to be a .500 team to be in a bowl' nonsense. Oh yea great, let's tune in to watch 4-8 Purdue play 5-7 Mississippi State. That would completely eliminate any remaining prestige with going to a bowl. The players would hardly even be interested in that at this point, let alone the fans.

Like it makes a difference if they're 6-6 rather than 4-8. It's a worthless bowl game that schools lose money on anyway. You can eliminate 27 bowl games and have a much better product at the end of the year. Top 24 teams only with conference preferences dropped. Top 4 get playoffs while the rest to play each other(5 vs 6, 7 vs 8, etc.). That would be much better than the drek we get now with the "everybody gets a trophy" bowl games.

It's also funny to see people talk about teams losing out on so much money by not having that 7th home game when TV revenue increases alone make up the difference and then some. I'm sure Alabama is really going to go bankrupt with their $40+ million TV and bowl revenue if they don't get their cupcake 7th game. It's more of an excuse not to travel north or just outside the state more than anything.

Alabama makes about $5 million from each home football game. That amount is not "made up" at all, much less "and then some" by their TV contract. If they don't play that game, they lose $5 million, which is equal to 1/4 of the amount they received from the SEC last year. That's a big chunk of money and well-worth protecting.

I'm going to take a wild guess and say the money could be easily made up from revenue from a certain TV network that is going to be launched next week.

Again I doubt the school is going to go broke because they don't have their cupcake game.

The network will bring more money, but that money is coming regardless. Honestly, I bet they've already figured out what they want to spend it on. They are unlikely to decide the best use of that money is to give up a home game.

Note: I do think there situations that push the AD offices to agree to limit games, but I do not think that the idea of only power 5 vs. power 5 is one of them. Playing conference mates more is sometimes one (Ohio State for instance will never again have 8 home games in a season, something we used to do every few years). Declining tickets is another (USC and Miami for instance are more open to a lot of bigger match-ups at expense of home games since they have a harder time selling out vs. weaker competition).
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