Information on the schedule is starting to dribble (ouch, can't believe I said that) out.

http://www.mlive.com/wolverines/index.ss...cart_river

Dec 9 at UofM.

It has been long rumored that we have a game in E. Lansing vs. Spartans.

I understand our OOC schedule is nearly complete, but not there yet.

Don't think we'll see all the Dukes, Kentuckys, 'Cuses, etc. this year.

I think Ray Lee said something about the Iceman Classic on twitter, but he deleted it.

Yea I thought he said he's not playing in it.


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Yeah so he's either hurt or suspended or something, but it basically confirmed that we are having it again. I wonder what teams are in it.

(08-06-2014 02:14 PM)EagleSam Wrote:  Yeah so he's either hurt or suspended or something, but it basically confirmed that we are having it again. I wonder what teams are in it.

does this mean we need to rekindle the #FreeRayLee campaign? disappointing to hear that he's going to miss some games to start the season.

http://www.wfmynews2.com/story/sports/lo.../13678153/

We are hosting an "Iceman" tourney again this year.

Looks like UNC-Greensboro, Youngstown, and Longwood.

So I have UofM, MSU, these 3 games, say two non D I opponents.

Here is a good list of tourneys.

http://www.bloggingthebracket.com/2013/1...events-MTE

(08-06-2014 02:14 PM)EagleSam Wrote:  Yeah so he's either hurt or suspended or something, but it basically confirmed that we are having it again. I wonder what teams are in it.

Looks like we're off to a good start for next season. Combs departure is really going to hurt us depth wise. Of course while we wait for the schedule to be completed it would nice to have a roster of next year's team to go along with it.

If Lee is missing time, I'd imagine Price will play a lot of guard. Starting lineup could be Talley-Price-Ward-Okoloji-Ajayi. Lots of length.

The freshmen guards are gonna be relied upon pretty heavily. Not a fan of our backcourt depth...if Talley gets hurt, we are epically screwed.

Yes, its too bad they could not have brought in a JUCO point or scoring guard in this class and redshirted one of the two true frosh guards but they didn't. Not a fan of this year's recruiting class. When you win 22 games and you have four backup center candidates pass you up and you can't get another JUCO, transfer or rated frosh to fill in at guard you really need to question what's going on. I should add in retrospect it would have been better if Ross in addition to Combs hadn't transferred.

I think people are REALLY underestimating the talent level of guys like Price, Bond, and Alvano.
I understand the frustration about the Center position, BUT you have to remember that you're talking about 18-24 year old men. Sometimes they make decisions on things like....
"I don't want to deal with the snow."
"The women I saw on campus weren't cute."
"There is no Chic-Fil-A there."
When that's the decision process, you probably don't want those guys around anyway.

Maybe so, but we failed to get an more backcourt depth we offered Albert and Clyburn and came away empty. We do take transfers but we didn't find anyone?

So in the end Trent Perry became our option. Maybe that's for the best. We'll see.

Don't get me wrong, I think Bond and Alvano are talented and will be solid players, but it's a lot to ask of two freshmen to play lots of minutes right away. Some can handle it, some can't. We will see if they can this year, unfortunately, since there aren't any other options.

I disagree with emu79 on the recruiting class though. Being upset over backup centers (keyword: backup) passing us up just doesn't make sense. Who knows why these kids went elsewhere, but as KPJ said, it could be a multitude of factors, also including playing time. We got a guy, two actually, so that position is settled. We got two solid forward transfers, and two guard prospects that had other mid major offers. I only wish we could've got a JUCO guard, but oh well. I'll settle for hoping that Talley can survive playing 30+ minutes a night.

(08-07-2014 09:01 AM)EagleSam Wrote:  Don't get me wrong, I think Bond and Alvano are talented and will be solid players, but it's a lot to ask of two freshmen to play lots of minutes right away. Some can handle it, some can't. We will see if they can this year, unfortunately, since there aren't any other options.

I disagree with emu79 on the recruiting class though. Being upset over backup centers (keyword: backup) passing us up just doesn't make sense. Who knows why these kids went elsewhere, but as KPJ said, it could be a multitude of factors, also including playing time. We got a guy, two actually, so that position is settled. We got two solid forward transfers, and two guard prospects that had other mid major offers. I only wish we could've got a JUCO guard, but oh well. I'll settle for hoping that Talley can survive playing 30+ minutes a night.

So is your prediction based on this recruiting class that the team will do better than it did last year or take a step backward? Or let me put it another way, so did this recruiting class put us ahead of Toledo and WMU or even NIU?

(08-07-2014 07:39 AM)emu79 Wrote:  Not a fan of this year's recruiting class. When you win 22 games and you have four backup center candidates pass you up and you can't get another JUCO, transfer or rated frosh to fill in at guard you really need to question what's going on.

I'm not sure how anyone here can make such a statement (emphasis mine above) about the four backup center candidates.

Your declarative statement is unequivocal.

I have NO idea what happened with the JUCO prospects. Did they pass on us OR did we pass on them because we took a different prospect (e.g., the big guy from ISU).

I will mention as I did a couple months ago, I had heard his name maybe three weeks before it became public - and even before Super posted about a 'mysterious' 7 footer. The rumor was out there. I had the name.

So the logic that we took player Y AFTER player X rejected us could be logically false if we took player Y before player X committed elsewhere. I'd literally have to do a time line and assume the ISU kid committed say a week before I learned and the Tenn-Martin kid commited say at least a half-week before it got out on Twitter and try to ascertain the temporal order (who committed first, the ISU transfer or the JUCO headed to Tenn-Martin).

P.S. I doubt Ajayi will be the starting center. I think posters here are speculating (of course, my statement, therefore, is also speculation).

I'm a little rusty on my bball recruiting (this is basketball off season for me). Others, may follow hoops throughout the entire year but I've been into World Cup, Tigers, Lions and of course, our FB fall drills.

And guys like Gill, Joseph et al were out there for a fairly long time check the 2014 basketball recruiting thread, if you had the transfer in the bag why even offer them?

But while we're on the topic of speculation Barnes becoming the next Chris Archer would also be speculation yes?

(08-07-2014 09:23 AM)emu79 Wrote:  

(08-07-2014 09:01 AM)EagleSam Wrote:  Don't get me wrong, I think Bond and Alvano are talented and will be solid players, but it's a lot to ask of two freshmen to play lots of minutes right away. Some can handle it, some can't. We will see if they can this year, unfortunately, since there aren't any other options.

I disagree with emu79 on the recruiting class though. Being upset over backup centers (keyword: backup) passing us up just doesn't make sense. Who knows why these kids went elsewhere, but as KPJ said, it could be a multitude of factors, also including playing time. We got a guy, two actually, so that position is settled. We got two solid forward transfers, and two guard prospects that had other mid major offers. I only wish we could've got a JUCO guard, but oh well. I'll settle for hoping that Talley can survive playing 30+ minutes a night.

So is your prediction based on this recruiting class that the team will do better than it did last year or take a step backward? Or let me put it another way, so did this recruiting class put us ahead of Toledo and WMU or even NIU?

It's a recruiting class, so it's hard to tell until we actually see them play. I think the forward transfers we got will be solid from the get-go, especially Okoloji, as he has experience in a better conference. We are probably taking a step backwards with the guards, at least for this year, unless Bond and Alvano are studs right away (probably not).

I don't think we'll be as deep as we we were last year, but I think we will have a very good 7-8 man rotation. I don't believe we did enough to surpass Toledo (who didn't really lose anyone), but we should be up there with WMU and ahead of NIU. But that's my opinion. Yours is different. And that's why none of this speculation matters until we see how the team plays.

(08-07-2014 09:50 AM)emu79 Wrote:  And guys like Gill, Joseph et al were out there for a fairly long time check the 2014 basketball recruiting thread, if you had the transfer in the bag why even offer them?

But while we're on the topic of speculation Barnes becoming the next Chris Archer would also be speculation yes?

95% of posts here are speculation.

Most of the good stuff isn't posted here. It is done off the board.

BTW, I like Qua Barnes. Good kid. Wish him the best.

(08-07-2014 09:50 AM)emu79 Wrote:  And guys like Gill, Joseph et al were out there for a fairly long time check the 2014 basketball recruiting thread, if you had the transfer in the bag why even offer them?

There was a 'lot of moving parts' to this class with a lot of openings and a lot of visitors.

Remember there were MANY graduate eligible and regular transfers who popped up in mid-April and May across the D-I landscape. The landscape was changing almost every day.

I dare say none of us really understand how Murphy had his prospects prioritized and prioritized by position.

This wasn't MSU where Izzo was going to take one or two SGs (Harris and later Forbes).

BTW, instead of mindlessly complaining about lack of EMU men's hoop info I thought I'd do something 'constructive':

I just Tweeted our friend Michael Niziolek, who is covering EMU sports for MLive.com, and asked him if there was any info on roster, schedule, injuries, etc.

He spends a lot of time at Rynearson and the Convo. Let him ask our questions.

Other than a story on the newcomers and the OOC schedule (when it is finalized) this is really OFF SEASON for hoops. I do, however, remember, I think that there is now very limited practice time during August (is it skills training like what used to be done in September and the 1st half of Oct.?). The rules have changed in recent years. Kids do summer school and get some supervision from the staff before fall classes begin.


Sounds like a sensible approach, I'd think... :)

Dear Friends,
Not that this hasn't been interesting reading, but I thought this thread was about scheduling, not recruits. Just asking.