(08-06-2014 12:30 PM)firmbizzle Wrote:  

(08-06-2014 12:18 PM)DrTorch Wrote:  

(08-06-2014 11:35 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(08-06-2014 09:43 AM)GrayBeard Wrote:  

(08-06-2014 09:34 AM)DrTorch Wrote:  "Well why didn't the Republicans propose a better plan?"

Don't do anything was a better plan.

You pretty much summed up the entire Conservative platform.

You should market that into a bumper sticker.

"Vote Conservative
Our plan is to do nothing".

So a plan that makes things worse is better? That's why you're the board's biggest fool.

Only a fool would think the answers to a problem are to do nothing or make it worse.

Ah once again, you can't read.

(08-06-2014 11:35 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(08-06-2014 09:43 AM)GrayBeard Wrote:  

(08-06-2014 09:34 AM)DrTorch Wrote:  "Well why didn't the Republicans propose a better plan?"

Don't do anything was a better plan.

You pretty much summed up the entire Conservative platform.

You should market that into a bumper sticker.

"Vote Conservative
Our plan is to do nothing".

When faced with radical socialism, Conservatives doing nothing is a far better plan.

I can tell you that the used car market is still devastated. Prices are way overinflated still. I can sell my car which I bought used 4 year ago, have since put 40,000 miles on, for a PROFIT. And that doesn't include depreciation. And it'd still easily be a profit even if you factored in inflation.

(08-06-2014 12:21 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  That's what I figured. So then the deal was a benefit to you?

A benefit to me, a detriment to car manufacturers, the environment, taxpayers, and the economy at large. That's what Big Government is all about, and I would much rather that the program and other "free stuff" programs were never implemented to begin with.

(08-06-2014 01:08 PM)georgia_tech_swagger Wrote:  I can tell you that the used car market is still devastated. Prices are way overinflated still. I can sell my car which I bought used 4 year ago, have since put 40,000 miles on, for a PROFIT. And that doesn't include depreciation. And it'd still easily be a profit even if you factored in inflation.

I should've consulted you before I bought a car. What do you drive?

(08-06-2014 01:21 PM)I45owl Wrote:  

(08-06-2014 01:08 PM)georgia_tech_swagger Wrote:  I can tell you that the used car market is still devastated. Prices are way overinflated still. I can sell my car which I bought used 4 year ago, have since put 40,000 miles on, for a PROFIT. And that doesn't include depreciation. And it'd still easily be a profit even if you factored in inflation.

I should've consulted you before I bought a car. What do you drive?

2005 Mazda6 Sport Hatchback. 3.0L V6. Automatic with clutchless manual. Proper suspension so it digs into corners pretty well, despite being FF. It handles better than just about any domestic. Fully independent multilink and dual wishbone.








General recommendations for cars that I would buy ... which must be sort of working class heros. Reasonably priced highly reliable but still well built by a company that understands driving isn't just some boring 9 to 5 working commute. In decreasing order of like:
- Mazdaspeed
- Mazda
- Subaru
- BMW 1 M (you'll likely need to specialty import ... it is BMW 3 M quality at 1 series prices ... it was so good BMW is quiet about it so it won't hurt 3 series sales more than it already has)
- Toyota FT86
- Nissan GT-R/Maxima/370Z
- Honda CR-Z/S2000
- Fords with heavy influence of the Ford European division (Fusion/Fiesta ST/Focus ST)
- Porsche Cayman
- Alfa Romeo 4C (You'll have to specialty import it)
- Abarth
- VW Scirocco



Under no circumstances:
- General Motors ... all brands. Even the Corvette C7 under the pretty body is hideous. Leaf springs? REALLY?????
- Fiat/Chrysler group ... all US based stuff right now with the possible exception of the Abarth Fiat 500. Some of the European stuff is okay.
- Mercedes Benz (Poor build quality for some time now)
- Aging BMW/Audi/Merc ... they are VERY expensive to properly maintain
- Ford Mustang ... even the Rousch/Hennessey/BOSS/Shelby variants all keep the live rear axle. Meaning they are all useless in turns.

(08-06-2014 12:30 PM)firmbizzle Wrote:  Only a fool would think the answers to a problem are to do nothing or make it worse.

Can we agree "Cash for Clunkers" wasn't the answer?

GTS, you placed the Subaru in third place but if you've gotten a Subaru with Turbo you'd have it in first place. My wife drives a Subaru "Forester" with Turbo and if you didn't know it it would leave you eating her dust. It. Is. Fast.

When I play "Driving Miss Daisy" I drive like an old man, when she's not around, watch out, "little old man from Pasadena".