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It’s Happening: Doctors Begin To Refuse Obamacare Patients
Nice job Obama POS.....and you Democrats. What a mess you've made of our Health Care!

My Dr told me awhile ago he'd rather retire than deal with this.

It’s Happening: Doctors Begin To Refuse Obamacare Patients
By Ronak Kallainpur on August 5, 2014


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Obamacare has yet again shrunk payments to physicians. This time so much that doctors are actually saying they won’t be able to afford to accept Obamacare coverage, NPR reports.

Many of the eight million sign-ups in Obamacare exchanges nationwide already face more limited choices for physicians and hospitals than those in the private insurance market. With low physician reimbursement rates, the problem could get even worse.

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For a typical quick patient visit, Dr. Doug Gerard, a Connecticut internist, told NPR a private insurer would pay $100 while Medicare would pay around $80. But Obamacare plans are more likely to pay closer to $80, which Gerard says is unsustainable for his practice.

“I cannot accept a plan [in which] potentially commercial-type reimbursement rates were now going to be reimbursed at Medicare rates,” Dr. Gerard told NPR. ”You have to maintain a certain mix in private practice between the low reimbursers and the high reimbursers to be able to keep the lights on.”

Narrow networks have become a hallmark of many Obamacare exchange plans, as one of few options left to insurance companies that allows them to save money by lowering reimbursement rates and covering fewer providers. In the health-care law’s first year, 70 percent of all Obamacare plan networks were either narrow or ultra-narrow, according to an analysis from consulting firm McKinsey.

But doctors are feeling even more financial pressure due to the changes and many believe there’s a risk that Obamacare insurance will go the way of Medicaid, where patients still struggle to find a doctor after low reimbursement rates led many physicians to stop accepting it.

“I don’t think most physicians know what they’re being reimbursed,” Gerard said. “Only when they start seeing some of those rates come through will they realize how low the rates are they agreed to.”

If Obamacare coverage continues on its current track, exchange customers could face a lower level of care than those who buy coverage in the private market.

“I think it could lead potentially to this kind of distinction that there are these different tiers of quality of care,” Connecticut Obamacare chief Kevin Counihan told NPR. ”That’s been something, at least in our state, that we’re trying to work against. And the carriers are, as well.”

The problem is especially bad for private practices like Gerard’s, where physicians’ income is directly tied to reimbursements. But hospitals — especially top-tier ones that treat the most difficult diseases — are also increasingly rejecting the low reimbursement rates. The nation’s best cancer treatment centers are often covered by very few exchange plans in their states; if Obamacare customers end up with a difficult-to-treat cancer, they’re likely to face a lower quality of care right off the bat.

What’s even worse is what happened earlier this year in California:

It sounds like a bit of a mess in California. Some doctors are showing up on lists provided by insurance companies as part of their coverage even though these doctors never signed up to be part of it. And they have to refuse patients because the reimbursements, in some cases, are far worse than Medicare. The problem is Obamacare only regulates how much doctors can charge patients for procedures, not how much doctors are reimbursed. And when reimbursements are too low, doctors simply can’t afford to accept those patients or they will go out of business. Thus patients are hit with even fewer options than they realized when they signed up:
08-05-2014 09:28 PM
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You're new here, so let me explain how this works:

You'll be called a racist because you disagree with Obama
You'll be called a homophobe because you're implying gays with AIDS who have Obamacare won't get appointments
You'll be called an Islamophobe because all those doctors who sound like they came out of a Seven/11 will go out of business.
You'll be told you hate the poor because you don't support affordable insurance for them

Why do you have so much hate?
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(08-05-2014 09:35 PM)smn1256 Wrote:  You're new here, so let me explain how this works:

You'll be called a racist because you disagree with Obama
You'll be called a homophobe because you're implying gays with AIDS who have Obamacare won't get appointments
You'll be called an Islamophobe because all those doctors who sound like they came out of a Seven/11 will go out of business.
You'll be told you hate the poor because you don't support affordable insurance for them

Why do you have so much hate?


Smn.....been there heard that MANY times on the Board I was at. Used to it. Even lost personal friends on that board I was on for 8 yrs over this stuff. All because I detest this POTUS.
08-05-2014 09:37 PM
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But RWT says hospitals are making a killing.

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RE: It’s Happening: Doctors Begin To Refuse Obamacare Patients
(08-05-2014 09:35 PM)smn1256 Wrote:  You're new here, so let me explain how this works:

You'll be called a racist because you disagree with Obama
You'll be called a homophobe because you're implying gays with AIDS who have Obamacare won't get appointments
You'll be called an Islamophobe because all those doctors who sound like they came out of a Seven/11 will go out of business.
You'll be told you hate the poor because you don't support affordable insurance for them

Why do you have so much hate?

BTW SMN.....I'm here because a pal of yours recommended the board....Jimmy.
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RE: It’s Happening: Doctors Begin To Refuse Obamacare Patients
But timmy said it wouldn't happen, and you don't have proof, and you're not a doctor, and it's not really happening, and we'll get more doctors, and Obamacare is working in other places, and the GOP never provided anything better, and it will save everyone money!

So there.
08-07-2014 09:35 AM
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My Doctor said he’d retire too… but he was going to blame it on an internet video.
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Who is John Galt?
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(08-05-2014 09:37 PM)craner55 Wrote:  
(08-05-2014 09:35 PM)smn1256 Wrote:  You're new here, so let me explain how this works:

You'll be called a racist because you disagree with Obama
You'll be called a homophobe because you're implying gays with AIDS who have Obamacare won't get appointments
You'll be called an Islamophobe because all those doctors who sound like they came out of a Seven/11 will go out of business.
You'll be told you hate the poor because you don't support affordable insurance for them

Why do you have so much hate?


Smn.....been there heard that MANY times on the Board I was at. Used to it. Even lost personal friends on that board I was on for 8 yrs over this stuff. All because I detest this POTUS.

Welcome aboard, and no worries, the normal people will call you normal 04-cheers
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(08-07-2014 09:55 AM)AngryAphid Wrote:  My Doctor said he’d retire too… but he was going to blame it on an internet video.

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I said this when they were passing this crap. Many docs have started asking for cash payments and allowing you to submit reimbursements. Wave of the future!
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If your doctor said he'd rather retire than deal with this. That must be one heck of an infection. Lol

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(08-07-2014 11:29 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  If your doctor said he'd rather retire than deal with this. That must be one heck of an infection. Lol

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Wut?
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(08-07-2014 11:30 AM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  
(08-07-2014 11:29 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  If your doctor said he'd rather retire than deal with this. That must be one heck of an infection. Lol

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Wut?

He's speaking from personal experience.
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Been saying this before it was passed.

I stopped trying to explain it to the moonbats here.
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(08-07-2014 12:09 PM)maximus Wrote:  Been saying this before it was passed.

I stopped trying to explain it to the moonbats here.


That old "unintended consequence" thing just keeps rearing its ugly head.07-coffee3
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(08-07-2014 09:55 AM)AngryAphid Wrote:  My Doctor said he’d retire too… but he was going to blame it on an internet video.

+1.

Mine too... Said it was Bushes fault. I first heard about it in the Friday paper.
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(08-07-2014 12:36 PM)JMUDunk Wrote:  
(08-07-2014 09:55 AM)AngryAphid Wrote:  My Doctor said he’d retire too… but he was going to blame it on an internet video.

+1.

Mine too... Said it was Bushes fault. I first heard about it in the Friday paper.

Too much Bush is the cause of many infections.
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(08-07-2014 11:13 AM)pharaoh0 Wrote:  I said this when they were passing this crap. Many docs have started asking for cash payments and allowing you to submit reimbursements. Wave of the future!

Yep. Been hammering this for years now. Been called a liar over it repeatedly.

True believers are true believers... Whaddya gonna do?
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(08-07-2014 12:38 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  
(08-07-2014 12:36 PM)JMUDunk Wrote:  
(08-07-2014 09:55 AM)AngryAphid Wrote:  My Doctor said he’d retire too… but he was going to blame it on an internet video.

+1.

Mine too... Said it was Bushes fault. I first heard about it in the Friday paper.

Too much Bush is the cause of many infections.
Dopey.
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