“In the whole new grand scheme of the college football playoff, you’ve gotto have quality wins and in high-resource conferences you either buy the more you go play them home-and-home,” Mohajir said. “That’s going to be a huge factor in the rankings.”

http://www.miamiherald.com/2014/08/02/42...1444/1649/

Moral of the story...

Nobody make a better punching bag than F_U.

(08-03-2014 12:07 AM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  Moral of the story...

Nobody make a better punching bag than F_U.

I apologize on behave of the FIU fan who molested you as a child. It is obvious that You were deeply hurt by one of us and for that I'm sorry.

(08-03-2014 12:46 AM)CivilEng Wrote:  

(08-03-2014 12:07 AM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  Moral of the story...

Nobody make a better punching bag than F_U.

I apologize on behave of the FIU fan who molested you as a child. It is obvious that You were deeply hurt by one of us and for that I'm sorry.

It got personal quick, huh?

(08-02-2014 11:58 PM)CivilEng Wrote:  “In the whole new grand scheme of the college football playoff, you’ve gotto have quality wins and in high-resource conferences you either buy the more you go play them home-and-home,” Mohajir said. “That’s going to be a huge factor in the rankings.”

http://www.miamiherald.com/2014/08/02/42...1444/1649/

when will these writers learn some facts before printing these stories. he refers to schools with 30-50,000 students as "smaller fbs schools".

(08-03-2014 07:40 AM)runamuck Wrote:  

(08-02-2014 11:58 PM)CivilEng Wrote:  “In the whole new grand scheme of the college football playoff, you’ve gotto have quality wins and in high-resource conferences you either buy the more you go play them home-and-home,” Mohajir said. “That’s going to be a huge factor in the rankings.”

http://www.miamiherald.com/2014/08/02/42...1444/1649/

when will these writers learn some facts before printing these stories. he refers to schools with 30-50,000 students as "smaller fbs schools".

That is because they are talking about the 'quality' of the football program, not 'quantity' of students.

Many FBS programs are at schools with less than 15K students.

(08-03-2014 07:47 AM)Seminole Indian Wrote:  

(08-03-2014 07:40 AM)runamuck Wrote:  

(08-02-2014 11:58 PM)CivilEng Wrote:  “In the whole new grand scheme of the college football playoff, you’ve gotto have quality wins and in high-resource conferences you either buy the more you go play them home-and-home,” Mohajir said. “That’s going to be a huge factor in the rankings.”

http://www.miamiherald.com/2014/08/02/42...1444/1649/

when will these writers learn some facts before printing these stories. he refers to schools with 30-50,000 students as "smaller fbs schools".

That is because they are talking about the 'quality' of the football program, not 'quantity' of students.

Many FBS programs are at schools with less than 15K students.

like tcu and baylor for example..

(08-03-2014 07:57 AM)runamuck Wrote:  

(08-03-2014 07:47 AM)Seminole Indian Wrote:  

(08-03-2014 07:40 AM)runamuck Wrote:  

(08-02-2014 11:58 PM)CivilEng Wrote:  “In the whole new grand scheme of the college football playoff, you’ve gotto have quality wins and in high-resource conferences you either buy the more you go play them home-and-home,” Mohajir said. “That’s going to be a huge factor in the rankings.”

http://www.miamiherald.com/2014/08/02/42...1444/1649/

when will these writers learn some facts before printing these stories. he refers to schools with 30-50,000 students as "smaller fbs schools".

That is because they are talking about the 'quality' of the football program, not 'quantity' of students.

Many FBS programs are at schools with less than 15K students.

like tcu and baylor for example..

Got this from another message board so not sure how accurate this year but here are the FBS below 10K provided by a poster:

3174 Tulsa
3708 Rice
4413 Air Force
4576 Navy
4624 Army
4775 Wake Forest
6484 Duke
6878 Stanford
6879 Vanderbilt
7000 SMU
7519 Louisiana-Monroe
8338 Tulane
8371 Notre Dame
8425 Northwestern
9088 Boston College
9137 Louisiana Tech
9518 TCU

(08-03-2014 10:27 AM)Seminole Indian Wrote:  

(08-03-2014 07:57 AM)runamuck Wrote:  

(08-03-2014 07:47 AM)Seminole Indian Wrote:  

(08-03-2014 07:40 AM)runamuck Wrote:  

(08-02-2014 11:58 PM)CivilEng Wrote:  “In the whole new grand scheme of the college football playoff, you’ve gotto have quality wins and in high-resource conferences you either buy the more you go play them home-and-home,” Mohajir said. “That’s going to be a huge factor in the rankings.”

http://www.miamiherald.com/2014/08/02/42...1444/1649/

when will these writers learn some facts before printing these stories. he refers to schools with 30-50,000 students as "smaller fbs schools".

That is because they are talking about the 'quality' of the football program, not 'quantity' of students.

Many FBS programs are at schools with less than 15K students.

like tcu and baylor for example..

Got this from another message board so not sure how accurate this year but here are the FBS below 10K provided by a poster:

3174 Tulsa
3708 Rice
4413 Air Force
4576 Navy
4624 Army
4775 Wake Forest
6484 Duke
6878 Stanford
6879 Vanderbilt
7000 SMU
7519 Louisiana-Monroe
8338 Tulane
8371 Notre Dame
8425 Northwestern
9088 Boston College
9137 Louisiana Tech
9518 TCU

I think those are undergrad numbers only.

If those numbers are accurate, the only ones the TRULY surprised me are ULM & Louisiana Tech.

I thought they had many many more students than that.

Other than that, you basically have a list of the private universities (which, to me, at least) makes sense.

Doesn't The Economics change starting next year have this effect.
The G5 get a little profit ? If they follow the P5 initiatives.
The P5 get ten million more per year to buy money games.

I do think FBS becomes a no brainer for the Montana and Delaware type of programs. How they get there is a little more difficult .

The P5 schools that are breaking even will easily afford to buy future games.
The gap from G5 to FCS is a little wider . The gap between P5 and G5 is has become huge like thirty million a year plus . That is without selling a ticket or having 7 or 8 home games.

(08-03-2014 12:07 AM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  Moral of the story...

Nobody make a better punching bag than F_U.

You're a sad pathetic little man.

(08-03-2014 12:04 PM)MJG Wrote:  Doesn't The Economics change starting next year have this effect.
The G5 get a little profit ? If they follow the P5 initiatives.
The P5 get ten million more per year to buy money games.

I do think FBS becomes a no brainer for the Montana and Delaware type of programs. How they get there is a little more difficult .

The P5 schools that are breaking even will easily afford to buy future games.
The gap from G5 to FCS is a little wider . The gap between P5 and G5 is has become huge like thirty million a year plus . That is without selling a ticket or having 7 or 8 home games.

The competitive gap between P5 and G5 will not unless they change the # of scholarships offered. G5's don't sign that many players that P5's offer, and some players will still pick a successful G5, or local G5, over many P5's.

The competitive gap between FCS and FBS will change considerably, if all the FBS Conferences increase their finical aid to their student athletes, and stop playing FCS. Both those things are very likely going to happen.

(08-03-2014 12:07 AM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  Moral of the story...

Nobody make a better punching bag than F_U.

No reason to ruin this thread with F_U talk. We've got a thread for that.

(08-03-2014 12:04 PM)MJG Wrote:  Doesn't The Economics change starting next year have this effect.
The G5 get a little profit ? If they follow the P5 initiatives.
The P5 get ten million more per year to buy money games.

I do think FBS becomes a no brainer for the Montana and Delaware type of programs. How they get there is a little more difficult .

The P5 schools that are breaking even will easily afford to buy future games.
The gap from G5 to FCS is a little wider . The gap between P5 and G5 is has become huge like thirty million a year plus . That is without selling a ticket or having 7 or 8 home games.

P5 and G5 gap isn't really widening. It will stay about the same. Schools will offer the same benefits, P5 schools will have more TV revenue to allow them to spend more money on their football program...which they've always had.

G5 to FCS gap though will be gigantic.

Point that is being made is that while Alabama gets a huge advantage out of the new playoff deal, schools like Utah, Indiana, and Purdue do not. Those schools will have to spend far more of that cash to pay the bills, and will end up being forced to travel to G5 schools for games because they wont be able to afford the crazy amount of money needed for a guarantee.

FCS schools meanwhile, get left in the dust.

(08-03-2014 03:09 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  

(08-03-2014 12:04 PM)MJG Wrote:  Doesn't The Economics change starting next year have this effect.
The G5 get a little profit ? If they follow the P5 initiatives.
The P5 get ten million more per year to buy money games.

I do think FBS becomes a no brainer for the Montana and Delaware type of programs. How they get there is a little more difficult .

The P5 schools that are breaking even will easily afford to buy future games.
The gap from G5 to FCS is a little wider . The gap between P5 and G5 is has become huge like thirty million a year plus . That is without selling a ticket or having 7 or 8 home games.

P5 and G5 gap isn't really widening. It will stay about the same. Schools will offer the same benefits, P5 schools will have more TV revenue to allow them to spend more money on their football program...which they've always had.

G5 to FCS gap though will be gigantic.

Point that is being made is that while Alabama gets a huge advantage out of the new playoff deal, schools like Utah, Indiana, and Purdue do not. Those schools will have to spend far more of that cash to pay the bills, and will end up being forced to travel to G5 schools for games because they wont be able to afford the crazy amount of money needed for a guarantee.

FCS schools meanwhile, get left in the dust.

I agree that the FCS is going to get left in the dust. But what is really amazing is the amount of money being thrown around at the FBS level among P5 schools. This year the Big Ten will spend over $22 million on payouts for nonconference games. Ten of the fourteen Big Ten schools will spend at least $800,000 on a guaranteed nonconference home game. Texas State is getting $860,000 from the Illini for their road game. Utah is getting $1 million plus a return game in 2015 for their game at Michigan. There is just no reason for an FBS school to return to FCS.

We are being paid $1 million for our game at Michigan on 8/30.

(08-03-2014 09:05 PM)appsfan Wrote:  We are being paid $1 million for our game at Michigan on 8/30.

You are getting cheated, SMU gets $1,850,000

I'll trade the extra $850k for another win in the Big House.

(08-03-2014 09:06 PM)Pony94 Wrote:  

(08-03-2014 09:05 PM)appsfan Wrote:  We are being paid $1 million for our game at Michigan on 8/30.

You are getting cheated, SMU gets $1,850,000

That's what numbers are going to start looking like. 1.7 plus to get an AAC or MWC school, 1.3 plus to get a good SBC, MAC, CUSA school, 1 million to get lower tier G5 schools.

The schools that will really win at the G5 level will be the ones who can legitimately help a P5's SOS. Those will be the ones that will get gigantic guarantees and the chance for Home and Home deals.