Didn't see this posted, but I couldn't even watch it a second time.

Paul George scrimmage

It was worse when I saw it live because I nor anyone watching it were expecting it.KD and Harden was visibly shaken. It was horrible and I will never watch it again

Reason #162 why MCL Gasol shouldn't be playing in this tournament. The Grizzlies have max money invested in him and no 1st round draft pick to work with next year. That should be enough for Pera to pull the plug. But we all know that's not going to happen because our players do whatever the **** they want.

This should be the end $million investments playing in exhibitions. Even if it is for country.

(08-02-2014 08:28 AM)spankadelphia Wrote:  Reason #162 why MCL Gasol shouldn't be playing in this tournament. The Grizzlies have max money invested in him and no 1st round draft pick to work with next year. That should be enough for Pera to pull the plug. But we all know that's not going to happen because our players do whatever the **** they want.

Really?

You think the Lakers were able to keep Pao out of international competition?

Did you watch the World Cup? Did you see any of the $30 or $50 million dollar players have the 'plug pulled'?

(08-02-2014 08:28 AM)spankadelphia Wrote:  Reason #162 why MCL Gasol shouldn't be playing in this tournament. The Grizzlies have max money invested in him and no 1st round draft pick to work with next year. That should be enough for Pera to pull the plug. But we all know that's not going to happen because our players do whatever the **** they want.

It has always been the players call. No team restricts playing for country unless there is a conflict with the season. We'll see if that changes ...

(08-02-2014 05:11 PM)NigelTufnel Wrote:  

(08-02-2014 08:28 AM)spankadelphia Wrote:  Reason #162 why MCL Gasol shouldn't be playing in this tournament. The Grizzlies have max money invested in him and no 1st round draft pick to work with next year. That should be enough for Pera to pull the plug. But we all know that's not going to happen because our players do whatever the **** they want.

It has always been the players call. No team restricts playing for country unless there is a conflict with the season. We'll see if that changes ...

Already some chatter about that.

Paul George injury could be a game changer

On a side note, D. Rose doesn't look like he's missed a beat. Hopefully he can stay injury free this season and have a big year.

(08-02-2014 05:11 PM)NigelTufnel Wrote:  

(08-02-2014 08:28 AM)spankadelphia Wrote:  Reason #162 why MCL Gasol shouldn't be playing in this tournament. The Grizzlies have max money invested in him and no 1st round draft pick to work with next year. That should be enough for Pera to pull the plug. But we all know that's not going to happen because our players do whatever the **** they want.

It has always been the players call. No team restricts playing for country unless there is a conflict with the season. We'll see if that changes ...

Wallace said on Vernon just this week the NBA is prohibited from interfering in FIBA play by their players without a medical reason. Essentially, they need a drs note to even ask players not to participate in FIBA play. So they can ask... if...

Players not from US have far greater nationalism, of the level we had at the height of the Cold War.

Off topic, but I'd like to know who crafted the protection on that 2015 pick. It practically guarantees that Cleveland will snag a valuable pick from us somewhere between 2015-2017. Terribly shortsighted by Levien.

If the Grizzlies try to rebuild during the 16-17 season (2017 is the next loaded draft) it could be 2003 all over again.

(08-02-2014 09:53 PM)kabluey Wrote:  

(08-02-2014 05:11 PM)NigelTufnel Wrote:  

(08-02-2014 08:28 AM)spankadelphia Wrote:  Reason #162 why MCL Gasol shouldn't be playing in this tournament. The Grizzlies have max money invested in him and no 1st round draft pick to work with next year. That should be enough for Pera to pull the plug. But we all know that's not going to happen because our players do whatever the **** they want.

It has always been the players call. No team restricts playing for country unless there is a conflict with the season. We'll see if that changes ...

Wallace said on Vernon just this week the NBA is prohibited from interfering in FIBA play by their players without a medical reason. Essentially, they need a drs note to even ask players not to participate in FIBA play. So they can ask... if...

Players not from US have far greater nationalism, of the level we had at the height of the Cold War.

The Spurs have been dealing with this crap for years. The Argentinian coach has had no problem absolutely running Manu into the ground and allowing the Spurs to pick up his medical bill when the inevitable injury surfaces (usually late in the NBA season before the playoffs). Last year he sat out of the tournament and it made all the difference in the world for his health and the Spurs' title chances. This year they had to tell him "NO" because the ARG team was willing to trot him out there with a leg fracture.

Im surprised players don't get paid to play in these tournaments and Im surprised that Nba teams don't get a cut of the money made

They do get a cut of money made... Indirectly.

Exposing the world to NBA players leads to increased merchandise sales, sponsorships, and media rights fees.

One of the the reasons Pau and Marc are a thing is because the Dream team stole the show in Barcelona Olympics in 1992 when they were 11 and 7 years old respectively.

(08-02-2014 07:42 AM)BigTigerMike Wrote:  It was worse when I saw it live because I nor anyone watching it were expecting it.KD and Harden was visibly shaken. It was horrible and I will never watch it again

yea....I saw the reaction pics of the BB players...Rose, Cousins etc. That was horrible enough.

If they want the rev distribution to be more evident, direct, or whatever, either make the NBA a co-owner (if they don't receive a cut already), or the NBA should set up its own competitor.

The benefits that are true, however intangible or indirect they might be, I don't think compensate enough for the current risk.

On a non FIBA front, I wonder what opportunities exist to takeover some int'l leagues. Its been mentioned that many int'l leagues in Europe are not dependable when it comes to paying players. In the right business model, one thing the NBA could guarantee, is regular checks.

Freak injuries happen and are an unfortunate part of the game. I doubt this has any real repercussions as far as player participation is concerned. Guys who do not want to play for fear of injury or a desire to rest are already opting not to play.

Most players want to play it. There may be a few that are questioning it now after the injury but most players want to compete against some of the best in the world and they, especially here, want to wear the USA across their chest as a sense of pride. Kevin Love was literally in tears that he couldnt play due to the trade looming. DRose wouldn't be out there either considering his recent injury bug and they were really going at it in the scrimmage Friday night more than they go at it in the typical All Star game because they wanted to be selected on the team.

(08-03-2014 10:58 PM)Dynamos Wrote:  Im surprised players don't get paid to play in these tournaments and Im surprised that Nba teams don't get a cut of the money made

For years I have complained about those backboard stanchions being too close to the court and even more about reporters/photographers being so damn close to the court. With the technology of cameras they could be two to three feet further back and still get great photos.

Secondly, I was surfing thru channels and I saw this game and I saw DRose and I said to myself, oh hell no.....

I ran to another part of the house for a few minutes and came back and the game had been called.

Damn.

This was bound to happen eventually. I don't understand why these guys play in this meaningless tournament, anyway. More power to them if they want to but I don't get it. Risking their careers for a tournament that means nothing and just gets other people rich.

(08-05-2014 12:40 PM)Rob Wrote:  This was bound to happen eventually. I don't understand why these guys play in this meaningless tournament, anyway. More power to them if they want to but I don't get it. Risking their careers for a tournament that means nothing and just gets other people rich.

Nike, Coke, etc sell products globally. Playing in the World Championships and the Olympics probably gets more exposure in China or Germany than playing for the Pacers against the Bucks in a non-playoff game.

There is money to be made from being a star during the international competitions.

(08-05-2014 12:53 PM)Latilleon Wrote:  

(08-05-2014 12:40 PM)Rob Wrote:  This was bound to happen eventually. I don't understand why these guys play in this meaningless tournament, anyway. More power to them if they want to but I don't get it. Risking their careers for a tournament that means nothing and just gets other people rich.

Nike, Coke, etc sell products globally. Playing in the World Championships and the Olympics probably gets more exposure in China or Germany than playing for the Pacers against the Bucks in a non-playoff game.

There is money to be made from being a star during the international competitions.

If that was the goal they'd get more exposure but just going to China or Germany and doing tours. Players do that all the time as a part of sponsor obligations.