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(08-01-2014 09:49 PM)jaminandjachin Wrote:  
(08-01-2014 12:14 PM)Lou_C Wrote:  
(08-01-2014 09:57 AM)jaminandjachin Wrote:  There are only two I see that are a problem scheduling wise: UVA should not have scheduled UCLA and BC should not have scheduled USC. The others are fine and I don't see them as overscheduling.

It's getting a little better...but I don't love VT-Ohio State and I don't think Syracuse should be playing Maryland and ND in the same season.

I still wouldn't consider VT - OSU over scheduling. VT is supposed to be a football power. They need to start showing it.

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Florida State
Oklahoma State (Arlington) Loss



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Taking cash bets? That game will be over by the 2nd quarter, FSU will DESTROY Ok State. Vegas agrees.
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RE: Predicting how the ACC will do in the non-conference this year....
Like Wilkie, I will give this my best guess:

Boston College
at UMass Win
USC Loss
Maine Win
Colorado State Win

Clemson
at Georgia Loss
South Carolina State Win
Georgia State Win
South Carolina Win

Duke
Elon Win
at Troy Win
Kansas Win
Tulane Win

Florida State
Oklahoma State (Arlington) Win
The Citadel Win
Notre Dame Win
Florida Win

Georgia Tech
Wofford Win
at Tulane Win
Georgia Southern Win
at Georgia Loss

Louisville
Murray State Win
at Florida International Win
at Notre Dame Loss
Kentucky Win

North Carolina
Liberty Win
San Diego State Win
at East Carolina Win
at Notre Dame Loss


NC State
Georgia Southern Win
Old Dominion Win
at USF Win
Presbyterian Win

Miami
Florida A&M Win
Arkansas StateWin
at Nebraska Loss
Cincinnati Win

Pittsburgh
Delaware Win
at Florida International Win
Iowa Loss
Akron Win

Syracuse
Villanova Win
at Central Michigan Win
Maryland Win
Notre Dame (MetLifeStadium) Loss

Virginia
UCLA Loss
Richmond Win
at BYU Loss
Kent State Win

Virginia Tech
William & Mary Win
at Ohio State Loss
ECU Win
Western Michigan Win

Wake Forest
at UL-Monroe Win
Gardner-Webb Win
at Utah State Loss
Army Win

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(08-02-2014 09:11 AM)omniorange Wrote:  Like Wilkie, I will give this my best guess:

Boston College
at UMass Win
USC Loss
Maine Win
Colorado State Win

Clemson
at Georgia Loss
South Carolina State Win
Georgia State Win
South Carolina Win

Duke
Elon Win
at Troy Win
Kansas Win
Tulane Win

Florida State
Oklahoma State (Arlington) Win
The Citadel Win
Notre Dame Win
Florida Win

Georgia Tech
Wofford Win
at Tulane Win
Georgia Southern Win
at Georgia Loss

Louisville
Murray State Win
at Florida International Win
at Notre Dame Loss
Kentucky Win

North Carolina
Liberty Win
San Diego State Win
at East Carolina Win
at Notre Dame Loss


NC State
Georgia Southern Win
Old Dominion Win
at USF Win
Presbyterian Win

Miami
Florida A&M Win
Arkansas StateWin
at Nebraska Loss
Cincinnati Win

Pittsburgh
Delaware Win
at Florida International Win
Iowa Loss
Akron Win

Syracuse
Villanova Win
at Central Michigan Win
Maryland Win
Notre Dame (MetLifeStadium) Loss

Virginia
UCLA Loss
Richmond Win
at BYU Loss
Kent State Win

Virginia Tech
William & Mary Win
at Ohio State Loss
ECU Win
Western Michigan Win

Wake Forest
at UL-Monroe Win
Gardner-Webb Win
at Utah State Loss
Army Win

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Man, NC State's OOC slate is turrible....
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Boston College 2-2
at UMass Win
USC Loss
Maine Win
Colorado State Loss

Clemson 3-1
at Georgia Win
South Carolina State Win
Georgia State Win
South Carolina LOSS

Duke 4-0
Elon Win
at Troy Win
Kansas Win
Tulane Win

Florida State 3-1
Oklahoma State (Arlington) WIN
The Citadel Win
Notre Dame Win
Florida Loss

Georgia Tech 3-1
Wofford Win
at Tulane Win
Georgia Southern Win
at Georgia Loss

Louisville 3-1
Murray State Win
at Florida International Win
at Notre Dame Loss
Kentucky Win

North Carolina 2-2
Liberty Win
San Diego State Win
at East Carolina Loss
at Notre Dame Loss


NC State 2-2
Georgia Southern Loss
Old Dominion Win
at USF Loss
Presbyterian Win

Miami 3-1
Florida A&M Win
Arkansas StateWin
at Nebraska Loss
Cincinnati win

Pittsburgh 4-0
Delaware Win
at Florida International Win
Iowa Win
Akron Win

Syracuse 3-1
Villanova Win
at Central Michigan Win
Maryland Win
Notre Dame Loss

Virginia 2-2
UCLA Loss
Richmond Win
at BYU Loss
Kent State Win

Virginia Tech 3-1
William & Mary Win
at Ohio State Loss
ECU Win
Western Michigan Win

Wake Forest 2-2
at UL-Monroe Win
Gardner-Webb Win
at Utah StateLoss
Army Loss
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(08-02-2014 09:33 AM)GTFletch Wrote:  Florida State 3-1
Oklahoma State (Arlington) WIN
The Citadel Win
Notre Dame Win
Florida Loss


I don't see FSU losing a home game to Florida. If this were in Gainesville.....maybe
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RE: Predicting how the ACC will do in the non-conference this year....
I'll go with :

Boston College
at UMass Win
USC Loss
Maine Win
Colorado State Win

Clemson
at Georgia Loss
South Carolina State Win
Georgia State Win
South Carolina Loss

Duke
Elon Win
at Troy Win
Kansas Win
Tulane Win

Florida State
Oklahoma State (Arlington) Win
The Citadel Win
Notre Dame Win
Florida Win

Georgia Tech
Wofford Win
at Tulane Win
Georgia Southern Win
at Georgia Loss

Louisville
Murray State Win
at Florida International Win
at Notre Dame Loss
Kentucky Win

North Carolina
Liberty Win
San Diego State Win
at East Carolina Loss
at Notre Dame Loss


NC State
Georgia Southern Win
Old Dominion Loss
at USF Loss
Presbyterian Win

Miami
Florida A&M Win
Arkansas StateWin
at Nebraska Loss
Cincinnati Loss

Pittsburgh
Delaware Win
at Florida International Win
Iowa Win
Akron Win

Syracuse
Villanova Win
at Central Michigan Win
Maryland Win
Notre Dame (MetLifeStadium) Loss

Virginia
UCLA Loss
Richmond Loss
at BYU Loss
Kent State Loss

Virginia Tech
William & Mary Win
at Ohio State Loss
ECU Win
Western Michigan Win

Wake Forest
at UL-Monroe Win
Gardner-Webb Win
at Utah State Loss
Army Win
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(08-04-2014 04:53 AM)ChrisLords Wrote:  I'll go with :

Boston College
at UMass Win
USC Loss
Maine Win
Colorado State Win

Clemson
at Georgia Loss
South Carolina State Win
Georgia State Win
South Carolina Loss

Duke
Elon Win
at Troy Win
Kansas Win
Tulane Win

Florida State
Oklahoma State (Arlington) Win
The Citadel Win
Notre Dame Win
Florida Win

Georgia Tech
Wofford Win
at Tulane Win
Georgia Southern Win
at Georgia Loss

Louisville
Murray State Win
at Florida International Win
at Notre Dame Loss
Kentucky Win

North Carolina
Liberty Win
San Diego State Win
at East Carolina Loss
at Notre Dame Loss


NC State
Georgia Southern Win
Old Dominion Loss
at USF Loss
Presbyterian Win

Miami
Florida A&M Win
Arkansas StateWin
at Nebraska Loss
Cincinnati Loss

Pittsburgh
Delaware Win
at Florida International Win
Iowa Win
Akron Win

Syracuse
Villanova Win
at Central Michigan Win
Maryland Win
Notre Dame (MetLifeStadium) Loss

Virginia
UCLA Loss
Richmond Loss
at BYU Loss
Kent State Loss

Virginia Tech
William & Mary Win
at Ohio State Loss
ECU Win
Western Michigan Win

Wake Forest
at UL-Monroe Win
Gardner-Webb Win
at Utah State Loss
Army Win

LOL, you really don't see any OOC wins for Virginia? Or is that your rival auto bias kicking in? 03-lmfao
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I can't take this any more!

Boston College
at UMass Win
USC Loss, but not a lock
Maine Win
Colorado State Win

Clemson
at Georgia Toss-up (lean to LOSS)
South Carolina State Win
Georgia State Win
South Carolina Toss-up (lean to WIN)

Duke
Elon Win
at Troy Win
Kansas Win
Tulane Win

Florida State
Oklahoma State (Arlington) Win
The Citadel Win
Notre Dame Win
Florida Win

Georgia Tech
Wofford Win
at Tulane Win
Georgia Southern Win
at Georgia Loss

Louisville
Murray State Win
at Florida International Win
at Notre Dame Loss
Kentucky Win

North Carolina
Liberty Win
San Diego State Win
at East Carolina Toss-up, lean to WIN (revenge)
at Notre Dame Loss


NC State
Georgia Southern Win
Old Dominion Win
at USF Win (USF is really bad)
Presbyterian Win

Miami
Florida A&M Win
Arkansas StateWin
at Nebraska Toss-up (Huskers just not that good)
Cincinnati Win

Pittsburgh
Delaware Win
at Florida International Win
Iowa lean toward LOSS, but could be a win
Akron Win

Syracuse
Villanova Win
at Central Michigan Win
Maryland Win
Notre Dame (MetLifeStadium) Loss

Virginia
UCLA Loss
Richmond Win
at BYU Loss
Kent State Win

Virginia Tech
William & Mary Win
at Ohio State Loss, but not a lock
ECU Win
Western Michigan Win

Wake Forest
at UL-Monroe Win
Gardner-Webb Win
at Utah State Loss
Army Win
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I'm calling 12 losses vs. 30 wins
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(08-04-2014 09:54 AM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  I can't take this any more!

Boston College
at UMass Win
USC Loss, but not a lock
Maine Win
Colorado State Win

Clemson
at Georgia Toss-up (lean to LOSS)
South Carolina State Win
Georgia State Win
South Carolina Toss-up (lean to WIN)

Duke
Elon Win
at Troy Win
Kansas Win
Tulane Win

Florida State
Oklahoma State (Arlington) Win
The Citadel Win
Notre Dame Win
Florida Win

Georgia Tech
Wofford Win
at Tulane Win
Georgia Southern Win
at Georgia Loss

Louisville
Murray State Win
at Florida International Win
at Notre Dame Loss
Kentucky Win

North Carolina
Liberty Win
San Diego State Win
at East Carolina Toss-up, lean to WIN (revenge)
at Notre Dame Loss


NC State
Georgia Southern Win
Old Dominion Win
at USF Win (USF is really bad)
Presbyterian Win

Miami
Florida A&M Win
Arkansas StateWin
at Nebraska Toss-up (Huskers just not that good)
Cincinnati Win

Pittsburgh
Delaware Win
at Florida International Win
Iowa lean toward LOSS, but could be a win
Akron Win

Syracuse
Villanova Win
at Central Michigan Win
Maryland Win
Notre Dame (MetLifeStadium) Loss

Virginia
UCLA Loss
Richmond Win
at BYU Loss
Kent State Win

Virginia Tech
William & Mary Win
at Ohio State Loss, but not a lock
ECU Win
Western Michigan Win

Wake Forest
at UL-Monroe Win
Gardner-Webb Win
at Utah State Loss
Army Win

I'm calling 12 losses vs. 30 wins
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Will the other 14 be ties?

All in all, this is one of the weakest OOC schedules the ACC has had in years. Have we gotten to a point of confidence that we don't have to prove ourselves against better teams? Or is it just that we can't get middle of the pack P5s to play us anymore?

Maybe the problem is that with nine game league schedules other P5s just don't have as many games to offer. The B1G is still playing FCS games this year, plus nearly all of them play at least one MAC team. That doesn't leave too many slots.
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(08-04-2014 10:14 AM)ken d Wrote:  
(08-04-2014 09:54 AM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  I'm calling 12 losses vs. 30 wins

Will the other 14 be ties?

All in all, this is one of the weakest OOC schedules the ACC has had in years. Have we gotten to a point of confidence that we don't have to prove ourselves against better teams? Or is it just that we can't get middle of the pack P5s to play us anymore?

Maybe the problem is that with nine game league schedules other P5s just don't have as many games to offer. The B1G is still playing FCS games this year, plus nearly all of them play at least one MAC team. That doesn't leave too many slots.

DERP! Bad arithmetic... should be 12 losses, 44 wins. 03-banghead

If we only look at P5 games:

Boston College
USC Loss, but not a lock

Clemson
at Georgia Toss-up (lean to LOSS)
South Carolina Toss-up (lean to WIN)

Duke
Kansas Win

Florida State
Oklahoma State (Arlington) Win
Notre Dame Win
Florida Win

Georgia Tech
at Georgia Loss

Louisville
at Notre Dame Loss
Kentucky Win

North Carolina
at Notre Dame Loss

NC State
n/a

Miami
at Nebraska Toss-up (Huskers just not that good)

Pittsburgh
Iowa lean toward LOSS, but could be a win

Syracuse
Maryland Win
Notre Dame (MetLifeStadium) Loss

Virginia
UCLA Loss

Virginia Tech
at Ohio State Loss, but not a lock

Wake Forest
n/a
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est. 9 losses, 7 wins vs. the big boys; however, I could see 2 more wins (most likely Pitt and BC at home) to make it 9-7. I could also see Clemson beating both GA and SC to make it 10-6. Beyond that I can only hope for VT to win at Ohio State - but that's not what I expect.

Have we gotten to a point of confidence that we don't have to prove ourselves against better teams? No, but I do think we see the ACC scheduling much "smarter" now (e.g. only FSU, Clemson, Louisville (and Syracuse) are playing multiple P5 opponents this year. That's smart because the others are just not ready yet. Also, the 2 weakest teams are not serving as anybody's body bag either - another positive, IMO.
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(08-04-2014 10:28 AM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  
(08-04-2014 10:14 AM)ken d Wrote:  
(08-04-2014 09:54 AM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  I'm calling 12 losses vs. 30 wins

Will the other 14 be ties?

All in all, this is one of the weakest OOC schedules the ACC has had in years. Have we gotten to a point of confidence that we don't have to prove ourselves against better teams? Or is it just that we can't get middle of the pack P5s to play us anymore?

Maybe the problem is that with nine game league schedules other P5s just don't have as many games to offer. The B1G is still playing FCS games this year, plus nearly all of them play at least one MAC team. That doesn't leave too many slots.

DERP! Bad arithmetic... should be 12 losses, 44 wins. 03-banghead

If we only look at P5 games:

Boston College
USC Loss, but not a lock

Clemson
at Georgia Toss-up (lean to LOSS)
South Carolina Toss-up (lean to WIN)

Duke
Kansas Win

Florida State
Oklahoma State (Arlington) Win
Notre Dame Win
Florida Win

Georgia Tech
at Georgia Loss

Louisville
at Notre Dame Loss
Kentucky Win

North Carolina
at Notre Dame Loss

NC State
n/a

Miami
at Nebraska Toss-up (Huskers just not that good)

Pittsburgh
Iowa lean toward LOSS, but could be a win

Syracuse
Maryland Win
Notre Dame (MetLifeStadium) Loss

Virginia
UCLA Loss

Virginia Tech
at Ohio State Loss, but not a lock

Wake Forest
n/a

est. 9 losses, 7 wins vs. the big boys; however, I could see 2 more wins (most likely Pitt and BC at home) to make it 9-7. I could also see Clemson beating both GA and SC to make it 10-6. Beyond that I can only hope for VT to win at Ohio State - but that's not what I expect.

Have we gotten to a point of confidence that we don't have to prove ourselves against better teams? No, but I do think we see the ACC scheduling much "smarter" now (e.g. only FSU, Clemson, Louisville (and Syracuse) are playing multiple P5 opponents this year. That's smart because the others are just not ready yet. Also, the 2 weakest teams are not serving as anybody's body bag either - another positive, IMO.
[/quote]

And that's counting Maryland, Kentucky and Kansas as "big boys". I agree this is the right strategy for the ACC. Only a few teams are competing for spots where SOS matters. The rest should only care about how many wins. I'd be happy with an overall 42-14 this year, and I'd bet Swofford would too.
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I hope Nebraska lives up to their overrated-ness again and we beat 'em good.
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There is another thread about the ACC not getting much respect in the polls. Maybe the voters got a peek at these OOC schedules.
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(08-01-2014 04:00 PM)Wilkie01 Wrote:  
(08-01-2014 03:54 PM)ken d Wrote:  
(08-01-2014 02:51 PM)Wilkie01 Wrote:  Here how I see them:

Boston College
at UMass Win
USC Loss
Maine Win
Colorado State Win

Clemson
at Georgia Win
South Carolina State Win
Georgia State Win
South Carolina Win

Duke
Elon Win
at Troy Win
Kansas Win
Tulane Win

Florida State
Oklahoma State (Arlington) Loss
The Citadel Win
Notre Dame Win
Florida Win

Georgia Tech
Wofford Win
at Tulane Win
Georgia Southern Win
at Georgia Loss

Louisville
Murray State Win
at Florida International Win
at Notre Dame Win
Kentucky Win

North Carolina
Liberty Win
San Diego State Win
at East Carolina Win
at Notre Dame Loss


NC State
Georgia Southern Win
Old Dominion Win
at USF Win
Presbyterian Win

Miami
Florida A&M Win
Arkansas StateWin
at Nebraska Loss
Cincinnati Loss

Pittsburgh
Delaware Win
at Florida International Win
Iowa Loss
Akron Win

Syracuse
Villanova Win
at Central Michigan Win
Maryland Win
Notre Dame Win

Virginia
UCLA Loss
Richmond Win
at BYU Loss
Kent State Win

Virginia Tech
William & Mary Win
at Ohio State Loss
ECU Win
Western Michigan Win

Wake Forest
at UL-Monroe Win
Gardner-Webb Win
at Utah StateLoss
Army Win

So a total of 45-11 (80%) this year? That's rarefied air. The ACC has never even sniffed at that many wins.

05-stirthepot Well, we should, because there are certainly enough cup cakes on the schedule! 07-coffee3

For the sake of comparison, I calculated how many losses the ACC would have based on their overall Win% for the last four seasons.

2010 - 21 losses
2011 - 23 losses
2012 - 24 losses
2013 - 18 losses
2014 - 11 losses (projected above)

Either we're getting a whole lot better or our opponents are getting a whole lot worse.
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(08-05-2014 03:41 PM)ken d Wrote:  
(08-01-2014 04:00 PM)Wilkie01 Wrote:  
(08-01-2014 03:54 PM)ken d Wrote:  
(08-01-2014 02:51 PM)Wilkie01 Wrote:  Here how I see them:

Boston College
at UMass Win
USC Loss
Maine Win
Colorado State Win

Clemson
at Georgia Win
South Carolina State Win
Georgia State Win
South Carolina Win

Duke
Elon Win
at Troy Win
Kansas Win
Tulane Win

Florida State
Oklahoma State (Arlington) Loss
The Citadel Win
Notre Dame Win
Florida Win

Georgia Tech
Wofford Win
at Tulane Win
Georgia Southern Win
at Georgia Loss

Louisville
Murray State Win
at Florida International Win
at Notre Dame Win
Kentucky Win

North Carolina
Liberty Win
San Diego State Win
at East Carolina Win
at Notre Dame Loss


NC State
Georgia Southern Win
Old Dominion Win
at USF Win
Presbyterian Win

Miami
Florida A&M Win
Arkansas StateWin
at Nebraska Loss
Cincinnati Loss

Pittsburgh
Delaware Win
at Florida International Win
Iowa Loss
Akron Win

Syracuse
Villanova Win
at Central Michigan Win
Maryland Win
Notre Dame Win

Virginia
UCLA Loss
Richmond Win
at BYU Loss
Kent State Win

Virginia Tech
William & Mary Win
at Ohio State Loss
ECU Win
Western Michigan Win

Wake Forest
at UL-Monroe Win
Gardner-Webb Win
at Utah StateLoss
Army Win

So a total of 45-11 (80%) this year? That's rarefied air. The ACC has never even sniffed at that many wins.

05-stirthepot Well, we should, because there are certainly enough cup cakes on the schedule! 07-coffee3

For the sake of comparison, I calculated how many losses the ACC would have based on their overall Win% for the last four seasons.

2010 - 21 losses
2011 - 23 losses
2012 - 24 losses
2013 - 18 losses
2014 - 11 losses (projected above)

Either we're getting a whole lot better or our opponents are getting a whole lot worse.

Either of those are acceptable. There is no advantage to overscheduling out of conference. We need as many teams to get into conference play undefeated as possible, or with one loss at the most. Having a team like UNC or Syracuse take two losses OOC last year, but beat ACC teams, is horrible for the image of this conference.

That just can't happen. Do your losing in conference, where at least someone else in the conference benefits.

I would like to see, with the possible exception of teams that are legitimately in the hunt for the playoffs or are bound by a mandated rival, for ACC teams to schedule no more than one loseable game, and never schedule a game that they are clearly a huge underdog.

One toss up game, one halfway respectable MAC/Sun Belt/service academy team, one very bad FBS team, and one FCS opponent. That's the proven schedule that works.

Winning 50/50 toss up games will get this conference respect. The idea that BC-USC or UVA-Oregon or Duke-Alabama is going to do anything for conference image is misguided.

Repeat until this conference rights it's image.
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RE: Predicting how the ACC will do in the non-conference this year....
(08-06-2014 09:16 AM)Lou_C Wrote:  
(08-05-2014 03:41 PM)ken d Wrote:  
(08-01-2014 04:00 PM)Wilkie01 Wrote:  
(08-01-2014 03:54 PM)ken d Wrote:  
(08-01-2014 02:51 PM)Wilkie01 Wrote:  Here how I see them:

Boston College
at UMass Win
USC Loss
Maine Win
Colorado State Win

Clemson
at Georgia Win
South Carolina State Win
Georgia State Win
South Carolina Win

Duke
Elon Win
at Troy Win
Kansas Win
Tulane Win

Florida State
Oklahoma State (Arlington) Loss
The Citadel Win
Notre Dame Win
Florida Win

Georgia Tech
Wofford Win
at Tulane Win
Georgia Southern Win
at Georgia Loss

Louisville
Murray State Win
at Florida International Win
at Notre Dame Win
Kentucky Win

North Carolina
Liberty Win
San Diego State Win
at East Carolina Win
at Notre Dame Loss


NC State
Georgia Southern Win
Old Dominion Win
at USF Win
Presbyterian Win

Miami
Florida A&M Win
Arkansas StateWin
at Nebraska Loss
Cincinnati Loss

Pittsburgh
Delaware Win
at Florida International Win
Iowa Loss
Akron Win

Syracuse
Villanova Win
at Central Michigan Win
Maryland Win
Notre Dame Win

Virginia
UCLA Loss
Richmond Win
at BYU Loss
Kent State Win

Virginia Tech
William & Mary Win
at Ohio State Loss
ECU Win
Western Michigan Win

Wake Forest
at UL-Monroe Win
Gardner-Webb Win
at Utah StateLoss
Army Win

So a total of 45-11 (80%) this year? That's rarefied air. The ACC has never even sniffed at that many wins.

05-stirthepot Well, we should, because there are certainly enough cup cakes on the schedule! 07-coffee3

For the sake of comparison, I calculated how many losses the ACC would have based on their overall Win% for the last four seasons.

2010 - 21 losses
2011 - 23 losses
2012 - 24 losses
2013 - 18 losses
2014 - 11 losses (projected above)

Either we're getting a whole lot better or our opponents are getting a whole lot worse.

Either of those are acceptable. There is no advantage to overscheduling out of conference. We need as many teams to get into conference play undefeated as possible, or with one loss at the most. Having a team like UNC or Syracuse take two losses OOC last year, but beat ACC teams, is horrible for the image of this conference.

That just can't happen. Do your losing in conference, where at least someone else in the conference benefits.

I would like to see, with the possible exception of teams that are legitimately in the hunt for the playoffs or are bound by a mandated rival, for ACC teams to schedule no more than one loseable game, and never schedule a game that they are clearly a huge underdog.

One toss up game, one halfway respectable MAC/Sun Belt/service academy team, one very bad FBS team, and one FCS opponent. That's the proven schedule that works.

Winning 50/50 toss up games will get this conference respect. The idea that BC-USC or UVA-Oregon or Duke-Alabama is going to do anything for conference image is misguided.

Repeat until this conference rights it's image.

You got it right. I said either the ACC is getting better or our opponents are getting worse. I think it's the latter, and I don't think that's a bad thing for all the reasons you point out.

As long as the ACC was in the BCS and guaranteed to have its champion in a major bowl no matter where they ranked, scheduling up was an acceptable strategy. But the game has changed now, and this strategy makes more sense in this new world.
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RE: Predicting how the ACC will do in the non-conference this year....
Deleware W
FIU W
Iowa L
Akron W

Since we're talkin' bout Pitt, don't be surprised if we go 2-2.
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(08-04-2014 08:53 AM)cuseroc Wrote:  
(08-04-2014 04:53 AM)ChrisLords Wrote:  Virginia
UCLA Loss
Richmond Loss
at BYU Loss
Kent State Loss

LOL, you really don't see any OOC wins for Virginia? Or is that your rival auto bias kicking in? 03-lmfao

It's my anti-UVA bias. They'll probably win a few games this year.
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