http://georgiatech.blog.ajc.com/2014/07/...sports_sfp

60 games ...Wow.

Clemson fans will still *****.

(07-30-2014 09:31 PM)TerryD Wrote:  Clemson fans will still *****.

Hey, watch it with the generalizations! :) I'm actually looking forward to the games against ND.

What does he mean by a 60 game contract?

(07-30-2014 09:52 PM)texasorange Wrote:  What does he mean by a 60 game contract?

5 games per year for 12 years

I would think we play them five years instead of the four they suggest for other ACC teams.

I would imagine they are trying to get some combination of Georgia Tech, Miami, Pitt and BC matched up with ND in the 4 who play them 5 times. I mention these 4 as they are historically rivals for ND. (Well Georgia Tech truly historically and BC in recent decades, but you all know where I'm coming from here.) It seems Syracuse is the 4th team for that based on getting them twice in the first 3 year rotation.

The only question is what happens when the 12 years are up. Is ND off the hook from giving the ACC a guaranteed number of games per year? Or is it just time for renegotiation where ND might try and go to 4 games and the ACC might want 6 to allow ND to continue being a member?

(07-30-2014 11:00 PM)brista21 Wrote:  I would imagine they are trying to get some combination of Georgia Tech, Miami, Pitt and BC matched up with ND in the 4 who play them 5 times. I mention these 4 as they are historically rivals for ND. (Well Georgia Tech truly historically and BC in recent decades, but you all know where I'm coming from here.) It seems Syracuse is the 4th team for that based on getting them twice in the first 3 year rotation.

The only question is what happens when the 12 years are up. Is ND off the hook from giving the ACC a guaranteed number of games per year? Or is it just time for renegotiation where ND might try and go to 4 games and the ACC might want 6 to allow ND to continue being a member?

As long as they are a member of the ACC, they are committed to at least 5 football games a year. If they want four they can quit and pay the exit fee and buy out the GOR. I think they will be playing more than five a year before the 12 years is up.

(07-30-2014 11:12 PM)opossum Wrote:  

(07-30-2014 11:00 PM)brista21 Wrote:  I would imagine they are trying to get some combination of Georgia Tech, Miami, Pitt and BC matched up with ND in the 4 who play them 5 times. I mention these 4 as they are historically rivals for ND. (Well Georgia Tech truly historically and BC in recent decades, but you all know where I'm coming from here.) It seems Syracuse is the 4th team for that based on getting them twice in the first 3 year rotation.

The only question is what happens when the 12 years are up. Is ND off the hook from giving the ACC a guaranteed number of games per year? Or is it just time for renegotiation where ND might try and go to 4 games and the ACC might want 6 to allow ND to continue being a member?

As long as they are a member of the ACC, they are committed to at least 5 football games a year. If they want four they can quit and pay the exit fee and buy out the GOR. I think they will be playing more than five a year before the 12 years is up.

I don't, not even a little bit.


Why the hell would ND want to do that?

Fantastic ; nd and the remaining members are pleased how it's going- and in the acc no drama-

Remember this conference is an elite school conference - lots of geat public private ad denominational schools. Nice group of schools

From what I have learned, Clemson will play at Notre Dame in 2020 and 2022 and Notre Dame will visit Death Valley again in 2023.

That means the Tigers will play Notre Dame three times in four years starting in 2020.
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(07-31-2014 06:28 AM)TerryD Wrote:  

(07-30-2014 11:12 PM)opossum Wrote:  

(07-30-2014 11:00 PM)brista21 Wrote:  I would imagine they are trying to get some combination of Georgia Tech, Miami, Pitt and BC matched up with ND in the 4 who play them 5 times. I mention these 4 as they are historically rivals for ND. (Well Georgia Tech truly historically and BC in recent decades, but you all know where I'm coming from here.) It seems Syracuse is the 4th team for that based on getting them twice in the first 3 year rotation.

The only question is what happens when the 12 years are up. Is ND off the hook from giving the ACC a guaranteed number of games per year? Or is it just time for renegotiation where ND might try and go to 4 games and the ACC might want 6 to allow ND to continue being a member?

As long as they are a member of the ACC, they are committed to at least 5 football games a year. If they want four they can quit and pay the exit fee and buy out the GOR. I think they will be playing more than five a year before the 12 years is up.

I don't, not even a little bit.

Why the hell would ND want to do that?

I suspect the cost of having access to the ACC's bowl line-up (not to mention the other sports) may go up...

(07-31-2014 08:16 AM)TIGER-PAUL Wrote:  From what I have learned, Clemson will play at Notre Dame in 2020 and 2022 and Notre Dame will visit Death Valley again in 2023.

That means the Tigers will play Notre Dame three times in four years starting in 2020.
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How would that even be possible with the current agreement?

(07-31-2014 08:29 AM)Ragu Wrote:  

(07-31-2014 08:16 AM)TIGER-PAUL Wrote:  From what I have learned, Clemson will play at Notre Dame in 2020 and 2022 and Notre Dame will visit Death Valley again in 2023.

That means the Tigers will play Notre Dame three times in four years starting in 2020.
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How would that even be possible with the current agreement?

The intervals between meetings aren't set, everyone plays ND at least 4 times over 12 years. It can be back to back years, every three years or whatever. This keeps everyone's schedule flexible & helps balance the home & away games.

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(07-31-2014 08:16 AM)TIGER-PAUL Wrote:  From what I have learned, Clemson will play at Notre Dame in 2020 and 2022 and Notre Dame will visit Death Valley again in 2023.

That means the Tigers will play Notre Dame three times in four years starting in 2020.
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Somebody tell Kaplony.

(07-31-2014 08:26 AM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  

(07-31-2014 06:28 AM)TerryD Wrote:  

(07-30-2014 11:12 PM)opossum Wrote:  

(07-30-2014 11:00 PM)brista21 Wrote:  I would imagine they are trying to get some combination of Georgia Tech, Miami, Pitt and BC matched up with ND in the 4 who play them 5 times. I mention these 4 as they are historically rivals for ND. (Well Georgia Tech truly historically and BC in recent decades, but you all know where I'm coming from here.) It seems Syracuse is the 4th team for that based on getting them twice in the first 3 year rotation.

The only question is what happens when the 12 years are up. Is ND off the hook from giving the ACC a guaranteed number of games per year? Or is it just time for renegotiation where ND might try and go to 4 games and the ACC might want 6 to allow ND to continue being a member?

As long as they are a member of the ACC, they are committed to at least 5 football games a year. If they want four they can quit and pay the exit fee and buy out the GOR. I think they will be playing more than five a year before the 12 years is up.

I don't, not even a little bit.

Why the hell would ND want to do that?

I suspect the cost of having access to the ACC's bowl line-up (not to mention the other sports) may go up...

I don't. I think the status quo was agreed to by all parties and will remain that way indefinitely.

If the ACC pulls a "bait and switch", then that may make a good case for litigation. No ND exit fee or GOR? We shall see.

(07-31-2014 11:01 AM)TerryD Wrote:  

(07-31-2014 08:16 AM)TIGER-PAUL Wrote:  From what I have learned, Clemson will play at Notre Dame in 2020 and 2022 and Notre Dame will visit Death Valley again in 2023.

That means the Tigers will play Notre Dame three times in four years starting in 2020.
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Somebody tell Kaplony.

We'll see if indeed it does happen. In 2012 it was every school every three years and five guaranteed games a year.

http://www.ncaa.com/news/baseball/articl...t-football

Quote:Notre Dame got everything it wanted and the Atlantic Coast Conference got Notre Dame. The school announced Wednesday that it would join the ACC in all the conference's sports except football, though it will play five games annually against league programs and have access to its non-BCS bowl tie-ins.

Quote:Notre Dame will likely be here far more often in the coming years; the Irish will play each ACC member at least once every three seasons. The move will alleviate some of the challenges for a football independent of scheduling games and finding bowl openings with conference tie-ins gobbling up spots.

and we saw how far that got.

Rule #1 in college athletics: Don't trust the Irish

This is old news: http://www.und.com/sports/m-footbl/spec-...13aad.html

Atlantic Coast Conference and University of Notre Dame Announce Five-Game Football Schedules for 2014-2016
First Three Years of Notre Dame's ACC Football Opponents Set

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FIGHTING IRISH Brian Kelly and the Irish will begin playing five ACC teams each season beginning with the 2014 season.
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Brian Kelly and the Irish will begin playing five ACC teams each season beginning with the 2014 season.
FIGHTING IRISH



April 19, 2013

Greensboro, N.C. - The Atlantic Coast Conference and the University of Notre Dame today announced the ACC opponents the Fighting Irish will play in the first three seasons of their football partnership with the league that begins with the 2014 season.

As part of the agreement to join the Atlantic Coast Conference, Notre Dame will play five ACC teams each year, alternating between three home games and two away and two home games and three away each year. Notre Dame will face every ACC team at least once in the first three-year rotation of games.

"The football partnership between the ACC and Notre Dame will not only enhance our league's already ambitious football schedules but also will provide terrific fan excitement," said ACC Commissioner John Swofford. "One of the benefits, moving forward, is that almost all of our student-athletes will have an opportunity to play against Notre Dame during their ACC careers which is extremely special."

In 2014, Notre Dame will play host to Louisville, North Carolina and Wake Forest. The Irish will have road games against Florida State and Syracuse.

In 2015, Clemson, Pittsburgh and Virginia will play host to the Irish, with Notre Dame hosting Boston College and Georgia Tech.

In 2016, the Irish will play host to Duke, Miami and Virginia Tech and will have road contests with NC State and Syracuse.

Notre Dame's games with Syracuse in 2014, Pittsburgh and Boston College in 2015 and Miami and Syracuse in 2016 already had been tentatively listed on future Irish schedules.

Current ACC teams have played Notre Dame on 118 occasions, while the addition of Pittsburgh and Syracuse, which officially join the ACC on July 1, will increase that figure to 192 games.

Pittsburgh (68 games), Georgia Tech (34 games), Miami (25 games) and Boston College (22 games) have been the most frequent opponents among current or future ACC teams for the Irish.

Virginia Tech and Louisville will be meeting Notre Dame in football for the first time.

Notre Dame will be making its first trips to NC State (2016) and Virginia (2015).

The actual dates for each game are still being determined. (Listed in alphabetical order by ACC opponent)


The Schedule:
2014 Series Record First Meeting Last Meeting
Notre Dame at Florida State FSU Leads 5-2-0 1981 2011
Louisville at Notre Dame First Meeting First Meeting First Meeting
No. Carolina at Notre Dame ND Leads 16-2-0 1949 2007
Notre Dame at Syracuse Series tied 3-3-0 1914 2008
Wake Forest at Notre Dame ND Leads 2-0-0 2011 2012

2015 Series Record First Meeting Last Meeting
Boston College at Notre Dame ND Leads 13-9-0 1975 2012
Notre Dame at Clemson Series Tied 1-1-0 1977 1979
Georgia Tech at Notre Dame ND Leads 27-6-1 1922 2007
Notre Dame at Pittsburgh ND Leads 47-20-1 1909 2012
Notre Dame at Virginia ND Leads 1-0-0 1989 1989



2016 Series Record First Meeting Last Meeting
Duke at Notre Dame ND leads 3-1-0 1958 2007
Miami at Notre Dame ND leads 17-7-1 1955 2012
Notre Dame at NC State State Leads 1-0-0 2002 2002
Notre Dame at Syracuse Series Tied 3-3-0 1914 2008
Virginia Tech at Notre Dame First Meeting First Meeting First Meeting



"Notre Dame will face every ACC team at least once in the first three-year rotation of games[/size]. [/b]" What about this quote says that ND will follow some silly, set in stone rotation?

"Notre Dame will likely be here far more often in the coming years; the Irish will play each ACC member at least once every three seasons. The move will alleviate some of the challenges for a football independent of scheduling games and finding bowl openings with conference tie-ins gobbling up spots." The prior quote is just words from the writer of an AP story - this is his opinion or take on the story that's why it's not in quotes in his story.

(07-31-2014 08:16 AM)TIGER-PAUL Wrote:  From what I have learned, Clemson will play at Notre Dame in 2020 and 2022 and Notre Dame will visit Death Valley again in 2023.

I wonder if the 2020 or 2022 game would become a Shamrock Series game played somewhere like Charlotte.