(07-29-2014 04:45 PM)techdawg88 Wrote:  Raiders owner, Mark Davis, is in talks w/ S.A. officials to possibly move team to the Alamo City.

http://www.mysanantonio.com/sports/pro-s...654812.php

Oakland will renovate Oakland Alameda

If the "cholos" in san antone are the same as the ones here in El Paso at least the Raiders will have a big fan base. It seems the cholos and their type only root for the Raiders perhaps the Raiders history with those fans will follow them to san antonio.

(07-30-2014 03:21 PM)panama Wrote:  

(07-29-2014 04:45 PM)techdawg88 Wrote:  Raiders owner, Mark Davis, is in talks w/ S.A. officials to possibly move team to the Alamo City.

http://www.mysanantonio.com/sports/pro-s...654812.php

Oakland will renovate Oakland Alameda

If they stay in Oakland, it will be at Coliseum City.

(07-29-2014 09:08 PM)_C2_ Wrote:  San Antonio, though smaller than many people in the region think it is, is big enough to support an NFL team, especially when Central Texas fans are thrown into consideration.

The down side is that it would certainly be a major blow to UTSA gaining a foothold in the market.

If Nashville is big enough population wise to have the Titans, S.A. is more than big enough to get the Raiders. S.A. metro pop. is a larger than Nashville. I also believe UTSA would benefit from having an NFL team in S.A.

Oakland is in a bad way with the A's wanting to move to San Jose or get a new waterfront ballpark and the Raiders dangling build us a stadium or else crap.

But there are factors like corporate sponsorships and median income. I read an article from the Express-News yesterday that Bexar County did a survey and found that with the Spurs tapping out the more well-to-do citizens, SA could only realistically attract an Arena League team or minor league soccer team:

http://www.mysanantonio.com/sports/pro-s...654812.php

Quote:In 2011, the city and county commissioned California-based Premier Partnerships, sales and marketing firm focused on “revenue optimization” of sports initiatives, to conduct a feasibility study. The consultant determined that San Antonio could support the Arena Football League and lower-division soccer but not teams in the MLB or NFL.

There are greater factors at hand than merely population alone, otherwise Tokyo and Mexico City would be more important than New York City.

That said, between the MLB and NFL, the NFL is more viable since it's a once a week and 8-10 times a year proposition that people from adjacent metro areas could come and support. I could definitely see it working.

Don't blame SA natives for being skeptical since we have been used as leverage before. But if you read up on the Oakland situation it actually seems like it won't get resolved:

1. The O.co Coliseum is a sewer, literally. Look it up. Davis is absolutely not committing to that venue long-term. His plan was to tear down the O.co and build a new stadium in its place but that was thrown out the window when the A's agreed to a new 10 year lease to continue playing there.

2. The City of Oakland is broke and unwilling to use tax money for a new stadium. They're still on the hook for $140 mill from renovations they had done in '95 to bring the Raiders back (from LA). The Warriors are leaving Oakland for similar reasons.

3. LA is the other city being brought up but the city isn't willing to use tax money for a stadium either. There's plenty of private investors that could build one up pretty quickly but that would require Davis to give up a cut of ownership and/or pay a hefty rent bill to play there.

The Raiders leaving Oakland seems very likely and San Antonio is as good of a candidate for relocation as any other city. It's far from a sure thing but this rumor has more weight than the typical 'X pro team to SA' rumor.

(07-30-2014 08:29 PM)_C2_ Wrote:  But there are factors like corporate sponsorships and median income. I read an article from the Express-News yesterday that Bexar County did a survey and found that with the Spurs tapping out the more well-to-do citizens, SA could only realistically attract an Arena League team or minor league soccer team:

http://www.mysanantonio.com/sports/pro-s...654812.php

Quote:In 2011, the city and county commissioned California-based Premier Partnerships, sales and marketing firm focused on “revenue optimization” of sports initiatives, to conduct a feasibility study. The consultant determined that San Antonio could support the Arena Football League and lower-division soccer but not teams in the MLB or NFL.

There are greater factors at hand than merely population alone, otherwise Tokyo and Mexico City would be more important than New York City.

That said, between the MLB and NFL, the NFL is more viable since it's a once a week and 8-10 times a year proposition that people from adjacent metro areas could come and support. I could definitely see it working.

The Austin market would be included in any discussions I'm sure. As would the cities in between the two (San Marcos+New Braunfels) and South Texas. I think it's completely reasonable to assume those areas would get behind an NFL team in SA.

A stadium between SA and Austin wouldn't be a bad idea if the two cities do a joint venture.

I doubt either would agree to it since they wouldn't see any tax revenue from it and minimal visitors to stay at hotels and spend money in either city. But unlike some naysayers, I think an NFL team in San Antonio can work. MLB on the other hand...

find it hard to believe SA could not support MLS franchise.
I don't think they could build stadium big enough

(07-31-2014 05:16 PM)templefootballfan Wrote:  find it hard to believe SA could not support MLS franchise.
I don't think they could build stadium big enough

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toyota_Field

Perhaps SA and Bexar County can use the money they pulled from the "trolley" just a day or two ago to do some upgrades to convince the Raiders to move to SA. The trolley was a no win for everybody and re-purposing at least some of the money would be a positive for the city. I'm not sure if it would impact UTSA football. If they did it, maybe it would be delayed a couple of years so UTSA can cement the fan base. It would be very ironic to me if the trolley money was spent to rescue the "build it and they will come Henry Cisneros" Alamo Dome.

they stop running the trolley
how are you supposed to get around

They didn't stop running the trolley. They don't have a trolley and want to build one to cover 5.9 miles at over a quarter of a billion dollars! We have more than enough buses to cover the entire city that do a very good job. This was just a money pit the libs wanted so they could "revitalize" the city center again. Nobody wanted it except for VIA, which runs the buses, and the county judge. They also claimed that they had the right to do it without support from the populous even though a campaign to petition a vote on the project easily reached the required number of petitions. Thankfully Mayor Castro was drafted to move up to DC and the interim mayor saw the writing on the wall and pulled the city's money.

Interesting...
http://m.mysanantonio.com/opinion/column...675283.php