(07-29-2014 11:47 AM)SMUmustangs Wrote:  

(07-29-2014 11:39 AM)Philosocoog Wrote:  

(07-29-2014 11:35 AM)UHCougar07 Wrote:  I don't see the Big XII as the best option. ACC, SEC, or Pac 12 are preferred over Big XII. Nothing is happening, so I'm proud to be an American.

You're right. The Big 12 is the little sister of other big name conferences and won't be around for very much longer.

So Houston has options? That is news to me. IMO Houston has "a chance" to get into the Big12....they have zero chance of the SEC, ACC or PAC12. I would not be snubbing my nose at the Big12. I bet the UH Administration would crawl on its knees to get into the Big12.

We have zero chance at any of those, so there's no need to discuss it.

Let's PLEASE not turn this into a realignment tout thread.

(07-29-2014 11:54 AM)UHDC Wrote:  

(07-29-2014 11:47 AM)SMUmustangs Wrote:  

(07-29-2014 11:39 AM)Philosocoog Wrote:  

(07-29-2014 11:35 AM)UHCougar07 Wrote:  I don't see the Big XII as the best option. ACC, SEC, or Pac 12 are preferred over Big XII. Nothing is happening, so I'm proud to be an American.

You're right. The Big 12 is the little sister of other big name conferences and won't be around for very much longer.

So Houston has options? That is news to me. IMO Houston has "a chance" to get into the Big12....they have zero chance of the SEC, ACC or PAC12. I would not be snubbing my nose at the Big12. I bet the UH Administration would crawl on its knees to get into the Big12.

You're right in regards to the SEC and ACC. I'd imagine UH would have a small chance into either the Pac-12 or Big 12. The Pac-12 likes the large metro areas where many of their current schools are located. (San Fran, LA, Phoenix, Denver, Seattle)

hahaha! You believe Houston has a shot at the PAC?? Never. SEC never and ACC never. 1% chance at big 12 but Texas will leave soon after Coogs arrival and Houston will be left out in the cold. (see SWC history and Houston's brief time as conference brethren with Arkansas and TX)

(07-29-2014 11:29 AM)Philosocoog Wrote:  

(07-29-2014 10:36 AM)billybobby777 Wrote:  Great news! Great opportunity! Now if Houston don't coog it like the the previous two games vs OU and play like they did v OSU and Penn St and fans show up to this could be huge for the program!!

Thanks for the advice.

any time Coach! Wow, didn't think you had time to coach the Coogs and monitor this board! I'm impressed!

(07-29-2014 11:30 AM)ElectricCoogaloo Wrote:  Big 12 audition.

Show up, play a good game, and we might just punch our ticket.

Lord knows the Big 12, especially the North, is missing that Houston connection.

In that case, UCF should have been in the Big 12 already considering we "auditioned" in the Fiesta Bowl by trouncing the Big 12 champion.

In an era where eyeballs on TVs is the deciding factor for expansion, it's not good for Houston that your home market drew absolute miniscule TV ratings last year when your team was on the road.

Easily the best scenario for OOC we could have hoped for. OU is a top-15 all time college football program who has as much prestige as anybody in the nation, especially in this part of the country. Opening weekend, in our city (albeit a neutral site), and national TV. This easily replaces the "hole" left by not playing Texas, A&M, or anybody else really. One and done, and no "return" trip to Norman? Awesome job by Mack Rhodes and the UH administration, as well as Stoops and the OU people. Can anybody else in the league claim a neutral site deal against a top-15 program? On opening weekend?

(07-31-2014 09:56 AM)Redvolution Wrote:  Easily the best scenario for OOC we could have hoped for. OU is a top-15 all time college football program who has as much prestige as anybody in the nation, especially in this part of the country. Opening weekend, in our city (albeit a neutral site), and national TV. This easily replaces the "hole" left by not playing Texas, A&M, or anybody else really. One and done, and no "return" trip to Norman? Awesome job by Mack Rhodes and the UH administration, as well as Stoops and the OU people. Can anybody else in the league claim a neutral site deal against a top-15 program? On opening weekend?

No offense but what is so great about a neutral site game? Especially when OU fans comprise 70% of the stadium while being played IN Houston?

UCF has had many, many offers from teams to play in the Citrus Bowl but we've declined every one. FSU made this offer prior to re-signing a deal with USF (which they like, due to being able to jam their fans into RJS).

I'd much rather play teams willing to actually playin in BHNS and go up agianst a real home field advantage.

(07-29-2014 12:02 PM)ElectricCoogaloo Wrote:  I've always wondered what it would take to get UT to bring UH along to the Pac 12 instead of Texas Tech.

Getting rid of that atrocious Longhorn Network. As long as Texas has the LHN, then they won't be going anywhere, much less taking anyone with them. No one want's to deal with that headache

(07-31-2014 10:02 AM)The Knight Time Wrote:  

(07-31-2014 09:56 AM)Redvolution Wrote:  Easily the best scenario for OOC we could have hoped for. OU is a top-15 all time college football program who has as much prestige as anybody in the nation, especially in this part of the country. Opening weekend, in our city (albeit a neutral site), and national TV. This easily replaces the "hole" left by not playing Texas, A&M, or anybody else really. One and done, and no "return" trip to Norman? Awesome job by Mack Rhodes and the UH administration, as well as Stoops and the OU people. Can anybody else in the league claim a neutral site deal against a top-15 program? On opening weekend?

No offense but what is so great about a neutral site game? Especially when OU fans comprise 70% of the stadium while being played IN Houston?

UCF has had many, many offers from teams to play in the Citrus Bowl but we've declined every one. FSU made this offer prior to re-signing a deal with USF (which they like, due to being able to jam their fans into RJS).

I'd much rather play teams willing to actually playin in BHNS and go up agianst a real home field advantage.

If UF or FSU offered us a one time neutral site game in the Citrus Bowl with no return game we should have accepted. Just reserve half the tickets for UCF boosters, students, and alumni. Of course I would rather have teams play at BHNS, but we apparently can't get anyone at play at BHNS.

(07-31-2014 10:02 AM)The Knight Time Wrote:  

(07-31-2014 09:56 AM)Redvolution Wrote:  Easily the best scenario for OOC we could have hoped for. OU is a top-15 all time college football program who has as much prestige as anybody in the nation, especially in this part of the country. Opening weekend, in our city (albeit a neutral site), and national TV. This easily replaces the "hole" left by not playing Texas, A&M, or anybody else really. One and done, and no "return" trip to Norman? Awesome job by Mack Rhodes and the UH administration, as well as Stoops and the OU people. Can anybody else in the league claim a neutral site deal against a top-15 program? On opening weekend?

No offense but what is so great about a neutral site game? Especially when OU fans comprise 70% of the stadium while being played IN Houston?

UCF has had many, many offers from teams to play in the Citrus Bowl but we've declined every one. FSU made this offer prior to re-signing a deal with USF (which they like, due to being able to jam their fans into RJS).

I'd much rather play teams willing to actually playin in BHNS and go up agianst a real home field advantage.

A neutral site game on opening weekend as part of a "kickoff series" is hard money to pass up. We're talking $1.5-2 million easily to play a top-15 program in our city.

Also, NRG stadium is one of the premier NFL stadiums in the nation, while the Citrus Bowl is largely considered a mediocre large stadium that's useless for all but a couple of bowl games a year.

And I have to ask, did FSU offer to play a one-off game at the Citrus Bowl vs UCF with no return to Tallahassee? Was UCF going to make $1-2 million from the game?

Yes, playing on campus is nice, but when ESPN comes to you and puts major money in your face to play in one of its premier kickoff series (including the likes of Texas A&M, LSU, and Wisconsin) against one of the all time greatest teams, in your city, then it doesn't get much better than that.

(07-31-2014 10:02 AM)The Knight Time Wrote:  

(07-31-2014 09:56 AM)Redvolution Wrote:  Easily the best scenario for OOC we could have hoped for. OU is a top-15 all time college football program who has as much prestige as anybody in the nation, especially in this part of the country. Opening weekend, in our city (albeit a neutral site), and national TV. This easily replaces the "hole" left by not playing Texas, A&M, or anybody else really. One and done, and no "return" trip to Norman? Awesome job by Mack Rhodes and the UH administration, as well as Stoops and the OU people. Can anybody else in the league claim a neutral site deal against a top-15 program? On opening weekend?

No offense but what is so great about a neutral site game? Especially when OU fans comprise 70% of the stadium while being played IN Houston?

UCF has had many, many offers from teams to play in the Citrus Bowl but we've declined every one. FSU made this offer prior to re-signing a deal with USF (which they like, due to being able to jam their fans into RJS).

I'd much rather play teams willing to actually playin in BHNS and go up agianst a real home field advantage.

read this article
http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootball...e-and-home

getting home and home with certain teams, even for power teams is not as easy as advertised...
and Oklahoma has been one of the most prestigious programs in recent years (you can argue "not deservedly so", but they are), second only to USC in Heisman winners. Oklahoma is the type of team that would normally require a 2 for 1 deal, the fact that we got a 1 of neutral game 10 minutes from our campus is amazing

and id bet money Houston has more fans than OU in that game, that will either be okorn's senior season opener or he did something so great the previous year he left as a junior, meaning fan moral will be high

and literally every other major team is doing 1 off classics..fbsscheduels says "September 3, 2016 Will Be A Monster Day In College Football" as everyone is doing major season opener classics (which might be the new trend) and theres still 2 more to be announced
the fact houston is even in the conversation for being part of it is nice

http://www.fbschedules.com/2014/07/septe...-football/

(07-31-2014 09:23 AM)billybobby777 Wrote:  

(07-29-2014 11:54 AM)UHDC Wrote:  

(07-29-2014 11:47 AM)SMUmustangs Wrote:  

(07-29-2014 11:39 AM)Philosocoog Wrote:  

(07-29-2014 11:35 AM)UHCougar07 Wrote:  I don't see the Big XII as the best option. ACC, SEC, or Pac 12 are preferred over Big XII. Nothing is happening, so I'm proud to be an American.

You're right. The Big 12 is the little sister of other big name conferences and won't be around for very much longer.

So Houston has options? That is news to me. IMO Houston has "a chance" to get into the Big12....they have zero chance of the SEC, ACC or PAC12. I would not be snubbing my nose at the Big12. I bet the UH Administration would crawl on its knees to get into the Big12.

You're right in regards to the SEC and ACC. I'd imagine UH would have a small chance into either the Pac-12 or Big 12. The Pac-12 likes the large metro areas where many of their current schools are located. (San Fran, LA, Phoenix, Denver, Seattle)

hahaha! You believe Houston has a shot at the PAC?? Never. SEC never and ACC never. 1% chance at big 12 but Texas will leave soon after Coogs arrival and Houston will be left out in the cold. (see SWC history and Houston's brief time as conference brethren with Arkansas and TX)

The Pac-12 has already had discussions with Houston. There is some interest (mutual, by the way)--but Houston has work to do. Here is the key---the Pac-12 knows they MUST get into Texas if the Pac-12 network is to be any kind of money generator.

Here is the reality---the population west of the Mississippi is concentrated in two states. California has 37 million (#1 is the nation) and Texas has 26 million (#2 in the nation). The rest of the states west of the Mississippi have less than 6 million people each---most have less than 3 million. The Pac-12 needs those Texas cable boxes. The preferred route is to gain access by getting the University of Texas--however, if UT choses to stay in the Big-12 (and why wouldn't they if they can run the conference, get a full share of media at 20 million PLUS have their own Longhorn Network worth 15 million for a total haul of 35 million a year?). If Texas isn't leaving and a GOR is in place--schools like Houston (a Tier one university) and SMU (a very highly rated university) start to make some sense. The Pac-12 isn't going to make money adding more California schools or even a Boise type school---there are just not enough additional cable boxes there to make it viable. From what Ive been told, we are much higher up in the pecking order for a P5 promotion than many think.

Look---I'm not saying its a sure thing. Its far from it. But its certainly not a joke or a "zero chance". That said, there are a lot of moving parts and nothing is happening anytime soon to the best of my knowledge as other dominoes have to fall for us to get in.

(07-31-2014 10:21 AM)pesik Wrote:  

(07-31-2014 10:02 AM)The Knight Time Wrote:  

(07-31-2014 09:56 AM)Redvolution Wrote:  Easily the best scenario for OOC we could have hoped for. OU is a top-15 all time college football program who has as much prestige as anybody in the nation, especially in this part of the country. Opening weekend, in our city (albeit a neutral site), and national TV. This easily replaces the "hole" left by not playing Texas, A&M, or anybody else really. One and done, and no "return" trip to Norman? Awesome job by Mack Rhodes and the UH administration, as well as Stoops and the OU people. Can anybody else in the league claim a neutral site deal against a top-15 program? On opening weekend?

No offense but what is so great about a neutral site game? Especially when OU fans comprise 70% of the stadium while being played IN Houston?

UCF has had many, many offers from teams to play in the Citrus Bowl but we've declined every one. FSU made this offer prior to re-signing a deal with USF (which they like, due to being able to jam their fans into RJS).

I'd much rather play teams willing to actually playin in BHNS and go up agianst a real home field advantage.

read this article
http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootball...e-and-home

getting home and home with certain teams, even for power teams is not as easy as advertised...
and Oklahoma has been one of the most prestigious programs in recent years (you can argue "not deservedly so", but they are), second only to USC in Heisman winners. Oklahoma is the type of team that would normally require a 2 for 1 deal, the fact that we got a 1 of neutral game 10 minutes from our campus is amazing

and id beat money Houston has more fans than OU in that game, that will either be okorn's senior season opener or he did something so great the previous year he left as a junior, meaning fan moral will be high

and literally every other major team is doing 1 off classics..fbsscheduels says "September 3, 2016 Will Be A Monster Day In College Football" as everyone is doing major season opener classics (which might be the new trend) and theres still 2 more to be announced
the fact houston is even in the conversation for being part of it is nice

http://www.fbschedules.com/2014/07/septe...-football/

You make a great point in that when you look at the landscape, being a part of these types of games has been a growing trend over the last decade. All of the major programs are doing it. From Alabama to LSU to Wisconsin and Michigan. Teams that can get any lower-FBS team to come to their house for a payday, going on the road to play in a talent-rich area to showcase their program against other monster programs. I still can't believe that UH was able to pull this off. Still in shock, honestly.

(07-31-2014 10:02 AM)The Knight Time Wrote:  No offense but what is so great about a neutral site game?

It's the latest trend of big time college football. See: LSU v. TCU, USC v. Alabama, LSU v. Wisconsin, Florida State v. OK. State, Florida v. Michigan (2017), etc.

(07-31-2014 10:02 AM)The Knight Time Wrote:  Especially when OU fans comprise 70% of the stadium while being played IN Houston?

70%, huh? So you only expect UH to draw 21k fans against OU? Are you being facetious, or are you just an idiot? The truth is, it'll be a hell of an atmosphere (probably a 60/40 split in favor of UH) and be a show case for both the AAC and UH.

No one cares how "many, many" offers UCF didn't receive to play teams at the Citrus Bowl, and how stupid it was for UCF to (allegedly) decline them.

I love how if another AAC school DARES steal UCF's perceived spotlight, some of you instantly go into attack mode. So funny.

(07-31-2014 10:17 AM)Redvolution Wrote:  but when ESPN comes to you and puts major money in your face to play in one of its premier kickoff series (including the likes of Texas A&M, LSU, and Wisconsin) against one of the all time greatest teams, in your city, then it doesn't get much better than that.

Bingo.

UCF fan is just jelly.

Doesn't matter who fills the stadium. If there's 72k, then it's still a win for UH. Just would show that OU is better at StubHub.

Lot of smuggy twats on this thread. /yawn

Boise State gets offered to go to Atlanta like once every 2 years. You don't see them in the Pac 12.

(07-31-2014 09:29 AM)The Knight Time Wrote:  

(07-29-2014 11:30 AM)ElectricCoogaloo Wrote:  Big 12 audition.

Show up, play a good game, and we might just punch our ticket.

Lord knows the Big 12, especially the North, is missing that Houston connection.

In that case, UCF should have been in the Big 12 already considering we "auditioned" in the Fiesta Bowl by trouncing the Big 12 champion.

In an era where eyeballs on TVs is the deciding factor for expansion, it's not good for Houston that your home market drew absolute miniscule TV ratings last year when your team was on the road.

Houston did not do great last year but you also have to keep in mind the time slots and channels that UH was on. 3 ESPNNews games at 11am local time will destroy your ratings.

UCF played on ESPN 5 times and ABC once.

Houston meanwhile was on ESPN twice.

Hard to really compare when you're playing better teams at more ideal times that attract more viewers.

(07-31-2014 11:01 AM)UHDC Wrote:  

(07-31-2014 09:29 AM)The Knight Time Wrote:  

(07-29-2014 11:30 AM)ElectricCoogaloo Wrote:  Big 12 audition.

Show up, play a good game, and we might just punch our ticket.

Lord knows the Big 12, especially the North, is missing that Houston connection.

In that case, UCF should have been in the Big 12 already considering we "auditioned" in the Fiesta Bowl by trouncing the Big 12 champion.

In an era where eyeballs on TVs is the deciding factor for expansion, it's not good for Houston that your home market drew absolute miniscule TV ratings last year when your team was on the road.

Houston did not do great last year but you also have to keep in mind the time slots and channels that UH was on. 3 ESPNNews games at 11am local time will destroy your ratings.

UCF played on ESPN 5 times and ABC once.

Houston meanwhile was on ESPN twice.

Hard to really compare when you're playing better teams at more ideal times that attract more viewers.

Houston played at UCF on primtime, on ESPN, on a Saturady night, and yet 2 other Florida markets drew larger TV ratings than the Houston market.

From the Courier article last year:

"With the American Athletic Conference's automatic BCS bowl bid potentially on the line, a number of households in the Louisville area helped turn in ESPN2's second-highest rating for the Central Florida-Houston football game on Saturday night.


Orlando, where UCF is located, drew an average 4.8 rating for the prime time telecast ahead of Louisville's 2.3 No other market recorded above a 1.0, or one percent of TVs in that designated market. Houston came in fifth at 0.9, even though the Cougars played on the road."

(07-31-2014 10:35 AM)Kronke Wrote:  

(07-31-2014 10:02 AM)The Knight Time Wrote:  No offense but what is so great about a neutral site game?

It's the latest trend of big time college football. See: LSU v. TCU, USC v. Alabama, LSU v. Wisconsin, Florida State v. OK. State, Florida v. Michigan (2017), etc.

(07-31-2014 10:02 AM)The Knight Time Wrote:  Especially when OU fans comprise 70% of the stadium while being played IN Houston?

70%, huh? So you only expect UH to draw 21k fans against OU? Are you being facetious, or are you just an idiot? The truth is, it'll be a hell of an atmosphere (probably a 60/40 split in favor of UH) and be a show case for both the AAC and UH.

No one cares how "many, many" offers UCF didn't receive to play teams at the Citrus Bowl, and how stupid it was for UCF to (allegedly) decline them.

I love how if another AAC school DARES steal UCF's perceived spotlight, some of you instantly go into attack mode. So funny.

Why don't you ask USF how having FSU in RJS went for them? And USF does in fact have a larger fan base than Houston does.

You're completely lying to yourself if you believe that UH will outdraw Oklahoma in a neutral site game.