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RE: World War I
(07-29-2014 08:23 PM)TPBlaze84 Wrote:  
(07-29-2014 06:24 PM)49RFootballNow Wrote:  
(07-29-2014 12:35 AM)TPBlaze84 Wrote:  
(07-28-2014 08:47 PM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  
(07-28-2014 05:09 PM)49RFootballNow Wrote:  I'm ready to hear the guns of August!

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Yep...That pic pretty much sums up 1914 on the German side...The Allies did not have helmets until 2 years later. They still were wearing cloth hats. Clashing of the old and new worlds. In the next month...a bloodbath ensues. All the military planners nightmares come true.

This picture was actually taken in 1917. The lance was only featured because it was a posed photograph. Another reason you can tell it was posed is that the horse is not wearing a special gas mask it would be wearing where this taken in the field.

Plus the Stahlhelm makes it post-1916 as well, before then it would be the Picklehuber. Also, they quickly got rid of their lances in 1914.

Good eye.

Do you know of any actual instances of them going into combat with the lances in the earlier stages of the war? I would be interested to hear details on that. The book I saw this picture in didn't have much information on it

http://www.historylearningsite.co.uk/cav...ar_one.htm

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Horses_in_World_War_I

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1...arges.html

The Soviets tried it against the Wehrmacht:

http://www.history.com/news/the-last-maj...-years-ago
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07-29-2014 08:35 PM
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Awesome thanks!04-cheers
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(07-29-2014 08:35 PM)49RFootballNow Wrote:  
(07-29-2014 08:23 PM)TPBlaze84 Wrote:  
(07-29-2014 06:24 PM)49RFootballNow Wrote:  
(07-29-2014 12:35 AM)TPBlaze84 Wrote:  
(07-28-2014 08:47 PM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  Yep...That pic pretty much sums up 1914 on the German side...The Allies did not have helmets until 2 years later. They still were wearing cloth hats. Clashing of the old and new worlds. In the next month...a bloodbath ensues. All the military planners nightmares come true.

This picture was actually taken in 1917. The lance was only featured because it was a posed photograph. Another reason you can tell it was posed is that the horse is not wearing a special gas mask it would be wearing where this taken in the field.

Plus the Stahlhelm makes it post-1916 as well, before then it would be the Picklehuber. Also, they quickly got rid of their lances in 1914.

Good eye.

Do you know of any actual instances of them going into combat with the lances in the earlier stages of the war? I would be interested to hear details on that. The book I saw this picture in didn't have much information on it

http://www.historylearningsite.co.uk/cav...ar_one.htm

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Horses_in_World_War_I

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1...arges.html

The Soviets tried it against the Wehrmacht:

http://www.history.com/news/the-last-maj...-years-ago

All this stuff is surreal in nature. The fact that the French had cloth hats and colored uniforms in the beginning is crazy. Shells exploding all around and No helmets?...Really?
07-31-2014 05:54 AM
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RE: World War I
19th century tactics, 20th century weapons. A big factor in the crazy casualty numbers.
07-31-2014 10:06 AM
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(07-31-2014 10:06 AM)Smaug Wrote:  19th century tactics, 20th century weapons. A big factor in the crazy casualty numbers.

Yep...but...Who could not foresee the need for a damn helmet?
07-31-2014 11:30 AM
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(07-31-2014 11:30 AM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  
(07-31-2014 10:06 AM)Smaug Wrote:  19th century tactics, 20th century weapons. A big factor in the crazy casualty numbers.

Yep...but...Who could not foresee the need for a damn helmet?

Tactics of the day, especially French tactics of the day emphasized attack. If was felt that things like helmets and body armor would slow the infantry soldier down too much.

It took them a while to figure things out the new Rules of War.

Both sides were still looking for the "breakthrough" of the lines, even in 1918, that they could finally pour their cavalry through to get the final overwhelming victory. With machine guns eliminate cavalry as a "breakthrough" weapon, this war moved at the pace of the foot soldiers' feet, even when they did break through the trenches.

Germany came very near to achieving the "Lightning Victory" of the Schlieffen Plan in August of 1914. It was only when French troops stopped them on the Marne River with massed machine gun defenses that the German advance was halted.

How did those troops get to the Marne? Mechanized warfare!

Every taxis is Paris was used to move those troops to the river.

Who remembered the lesson of the Marne a month later? Not 1 single general.
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RE: World War I
Today is the 100th anniversary of Britain's declaration of war on Germany.
08-04-2014 01:35 PM
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Former European enemies mark centennial of World War I beginning
http://www.foxnews.com/world/2014/08/04/...beginning/
08-04-2014 07:16 PM
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(08-04-2014 07:16 PM)True Bearcat Wrote:  Former European enemies mark centennial of World War I beginning
http://www.foxnews.com/world/2014/08/04/...beginning/

Watched coverage of that on the evening news. Prince William made some nice remarks.
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The 100th anniversary of the signing of the armistice ending WWI falls on the wife's birthday.
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