(07-28-2014 08:50 AM)Hokie4Skins Wrote: (07-28-2014 08:45 AM)1845 Bear Wrote: (07-28-2014 08:37 AM)stever20 Wrote: (07-28-2014 08:34 AM)1845 Bear Wrote: (07-28-2014 08:29 AM)stever20 Wrote: Alabama had 2 wins over Florida and a win over #16 Southern Miss. Marshall had 1 top 70 win. Alabama didn't play anyone that year worse than Marshall's 2nd best win.
If Marshall had 1 loss and Bama had 3 I would agree but on principle I have an extremely hard time excluding an unbeaten team. What more can a team do but win all of it's games?
This isn't for one of two spots, this is for one of 4. If you are unbeaten you should get a shot unless a team is within 1 loss of you and has some exponentially better schedule.
Maybe schedule a bit better. Alabama's worst win of the year was better than all but 1 of Marshall's wins.
Bama lost twice. It takes unusual circumstances for me to jump a team with 2 black eyes over a perfect record.
Would you put 2007 Hawaii in the playoff?
I go back and forth on that one honestly. 2007 is such a mess but the fact Hawaii literally played an SOS that even after the Sugar Bowl being counted for them isn't in the top 130 does make it a little different. Marshall (assuming a BCS opponent like Michigan instead of the Motor City Bowl) would have been ranked higher than they were.
Hawaii's SOS was so bad that it's significantly worse than anything we saw from Boise's teams, Marshall, Tulane, Nevada, Utah, TCU, etc. It literally is an FCS schedule. Playing a schedule that 2006 Boise looks at and says "that sucks!" qualifies as an unusual circumstance.
Seriously compare the SOS...
2007 Hawaii- 132nd WITH the bowl factored in
2004 Utah- 67th (Post bowl)
2004 Boise- 78th (Post bowl)
2006 Boise- 90th (post bowl)
2008 Utah- 56th (post bowl)
2008 Boise- 94th (Post Bowl)
2009 TCU- 60th (Post Bowl)
2009 Boise- 94th (Post Bowl)
2010 TCU- 76th (Post Bowl)
1999 Marshall - 111th BEFORE the bowl game.
Had they been unbeaten with at least a schedule on par with these other teams I could justify Hawaii but everyone has a point at which it doesn't make sense and an SOS that is likely 140+ prior to UGA is that point for me.
Ohio State gets in easy as the only major conference champ with 1 loss.
LSU and Oklahoma had two narrow losses and good SOS and did not lose to a bad team.
Last spot is between an army of candidates.
USC- 2 losses by a single score but lost to a horrible Stanford team which casts their spot into doubt.
WVU lost 2 narrow games but like USC one was to a bad team. Tough to decide between a slightly worse SOS than USC or the fact their 2nd loss was without Pat White.
Mizzou- Probably eliminated due to 2nd loss to Oklahoma. Good SOS and beat KU.
UGA and VT- 2 losses but got blown out in one of them.
Kansas- 1 loss P5 team with a mediocre schedule which was 74th after the bowl.
Hawaii's unbeaten record vs an FCS schedule
My last pick is probably WVU for the simple fact Pat White did not play.
Marshall's SOS was light but Hawaii's was another universe bad.